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Randian Objectivism

PetersSmith
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9/28/2015 12:30:07 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
"I'm here to ask you a question: is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? "No," says the man in Washington, "it belongs to the poor". "No," says the man in the Vatican, "it belongs to God". "No" says the man in Moscow, "it belongs to everyone". I rejected those answers, instead I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose Rapture, a city where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality, Where the great would not be constrained by the small. And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city as well. In 1919, I fled a country that had traded in despotism for insanity. The Marxist revolution simply traded one lie for another. Instead of one man, the tsar, owning the work of all the people, *all* the people owned the work of all of *all* the people. So, I came to America: where a man could own his own work, where a man could benefit from the brilliance of his own mind, the strength of his own muscles, the *might* of his own will. I had thought I had left the parasites of Moscow behind me. I had thought I had left the Marxist altruists to their collective farms and their five-year plans. But as the German fools threw themselves on Hitler's sword "for the good of the Reich", the Americans drank deeper and deeper of the Bolshevik poison, spoon-fed to them by Roosevelt and his New Dealists. What is the greatest lie every created? What is the most vicious obscenity ever perpetrated on mankind? Slavery? The Holocaust? Dictatorship? No. It's the tool with which all that wickedness is built: altruism. Whenever anyone wants others to do their work, they call upon their altruism. Never mind your own needs, they say, think of the needs of... of whoever. The state. The poor. Of the army, of the king, of God! The list goes on and on. How many catastrophes were launched with the words "think of yourself"? It's the "king and country" crowd who light the torch of destruction. It is this great inversion, this ancient lie, which has chained humanity to an endless cycle of guilt and failure."
-Andrew Ryan, Bioshock

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EndarkenedRationalist
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9/28/2015 8:55:04 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I think Rapture itself demonstrates well why Objectivism is the worst philosophy to ever exist. (Don't have the time to make a longer response right now). So, for that matter, does Columbia.
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9/28/2015 11:47:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
1) I have never played Bioshock

2) I am from Europe. Nobody over here has heard of Rand before.

When I first read about objectivism some days ago I was sincerely shocked that some people actually propose this.
It has to be the most heartless set of ideas ever thought of by a human and so close to social Darwinism that it is absolutely infeasible to me how someone could utter support for this with a straight face.
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