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What's the Point of Philosophy?

SolonKR
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10/7/2015 8:46:02 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Discuss.
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10/7/2015 9:09:50 PM
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Broadly speaking, I guess to examine subjects (and reality itself) at the most fundamental level; to highlight problems in important issues all other subjects take for granted and to frame concepts or debates in a more precise way.

More specifically, analytic philosophy is probably best described as bring a reason-based approach to issues which cannot be solved by purely looking at the data. Or something.
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10/7/2015 10:51:03 PM
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"Philosophy is like trying to open a safe with a combination lock: each little adjustment of the dials seems to achieve nothing, only when everything is in place does the door open."

-Ludwig Wittgenstein
Why?

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10/7/2015 11:59:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/7/2015 8:46:02 PM, SolonKR wrote:
What's the Point of Philosophy?

Discuss.

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SolonKR
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10/8/2015 1:45:22 AM
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The general consensus seems to be finding personal answers of some kind. I suppose I'll follow up my question, then:

To what end?
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"For often evil men are rich, and good men poor;
But we will not exchange with them
Our virtue for their wealth, since one abides always,
While riches change their owners every day." - Solon, Plutarch's "Life of Solon"
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10/8/2015 2:00:53 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/8/2015 1:45:22 AM, SolonKR wrote:
The general consensus seems to be finding personal answers of some kind. I suppose I'll follow up my question, then:

To what end?

There is no end.
Why?

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10/8/2015 2:05:09 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/8/2015 2:00:53 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 10/8/2015 1:45:22 AM, SolonKR wrote:
To what end?

There is no end.

*mind explodes*
Bailey <3

"For often evil men are rich, and good men poor;
But we will not exchange with them
Our virtue for their wealth, since one abides always,
While riches change their owners every day." - Solon, Plutarch's "Life of Solon"
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10/8/2015 2:43:11 AM
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At 10/8/2015 2:00:53 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There is no end.

But, in seriousness, what does that even mean?
Bailey <3

"For often evil men are rich, and good men poor;
But we will not exchange with them
Our virtue for their wealth, since one abides always,
While riches change their owners every day." - Solon, Plutarch's "Life of Solon"
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10/8/2015 2:47:49 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 10/8/2015 2:43:11 AM, SolonKR wrote:
At 10/8/2015 2:00:53 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There is no end.

But, in seriousness, what does that even mean?

What end is there to the pursuit of knowledge? There's really no point that we can know everything - so philosophy is inherently infinite.
Why?

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10/8/2015 2:56:25 AM
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At 10/8/2015 2:47:49 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
What end is there to the pursuit of knowledge? There's really no point that we can know everything - so philosophy is inherently infinite.

In what way is philosophy the pursuit of knowledge? Is it empirical?
To clarify, a lot of the reason why I find philosophy very hard to understand is that I don't see the point in trying to obtain abstract concepts of meaning, when I find it beyond the scope of human comprehension (i.e., I equate the "infinite" nature of philosophy with being rather pointless, as there is no concrete end to achieve). I'm not saying that to argue anything, but, rather, to elaborate on the fact that I genuinely do not understand the goals of philosophy or why it matters.
Bailey <3

"For often evil men are rich, and good men poor;
But we will not exchange with them
Our virtue for their wealth, since one abides always,
While riches change their owners every day." - Solon, Plutarch's "Life of Solon"
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10/8/2015 3:02:13 AM
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At 10/8/2015 2:56:25 AM, SolonKR wrote:
At 10/8/2015 2:47:49 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
What end is there to the pursuit of knowledge? There's really no point that we can know everything - so philosophy is inherently infinite.

In what way is philosophy the pursuit of knowledge? Is it empirical?
To clarify, a lot of the reason why I find philosophy very hard to understand is that I don't see the point in trying to obtain abstract concepts of meaning, when I find it beyond the scope of human comprehension (i.e., I equate the "infinite" nature of philosophy with being rather pointless, as there is no concrete end to achieve). I'm not saying that to argue anything, but, rather, to elaborate on the fact that I genuinely do not understand the goals of philosophy or why it matters.

Philosophy is love of knowledge, so the pursuit of knowledge goes with philosophy.

There are more abstract ventures to take in philosophy, yes. I don't think it should be delved into that much, though - at least until the more directly affecting things in life are solved. See: my thread on the Parable of the Poisoned Arrow.
Why?

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10/8/2015 12:07:42 PM
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the point of philosophy is to start with something so simple as not to seem worth stating, and to end with something so paradoxical that no one will believe it.

Not me - Bertrand Russel.
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10/11/2015 3:10:35 AM
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Intellectual vanity.

Hopefully, if you can get past that, enlightenment.
"There are trivial truths and the great truths. The opposite of a trivial truth is plainly false. The opposite of a great truth is also true." ~ Niels Bohr

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." ~ Arthur Schopenhauer
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10/11/2015 7:48:22 AM
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1. Philosophy as a subject is useless, being little more than intellectual wank.

2. As a common noun, a philosophy is just a framework to fit stuff into.

Number 1 should be avoided like the plague. Number 2 should be chosen carefully.
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10/12/2017 10:20:05 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/7/2015 8:46:02 PM, SolonKR wrote:
Discuss.

You've apparently learned NOTHING in two years.
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10/13/2017 8:39:40 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/12/2017 10:20:05 AM, ShabShoral wrote:
At 10/7/2015 8:46:02 PM, SolonKR wrote:
Discuss.

You've apparently learned NOTHING in two years.

I've learned:
1. Morality is a value, not a thing
2. All values are objective
3. People aren't wearing enough hats
4. Matter is energy
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"For often evil men are rich, and good men poor;
But we will not exchange with them
Our virtue for their wealth, since one abides always,
While riches change their owners every day." - Solon, Plutarch's "Life of Solon"
SolonKR
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10/13/2017 8:48:57 PM
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I can answer past me's question now. The direct points are to learn how to live authentically, and to more effectively decide what we ought to do. Less directly, but equally importantly, the logical reasoning skills one gains by practice is relevant to every single area of life.
Bailey <3

"For often evil men are rich, and good men poor;
But we will not exchange with them
Our virtue for their wealth, since one abides always,
While riches change their owners every day." - Solon, Plutarch's "Life of Solon"
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10/13/2017 9:32:08 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/13/2017 8:48:57 PM, SolonKR wrote:
I can answer past me's question now. The direct points are to learn how to live authentically, and to more effectively decide what we ought to do. Less directly, but equally importantly, the logical reasoning skills one gains by practice is relevant to every single area of life.

Well stated.
Believing in "objective reality" is just like believing in heaven.

Please adhere to obvious epistemological limits.
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10/19/2017 12:17:49 AM
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Our occupied space Universe is finite ergo there exist a finite set of absolute cosmic laws/principles complementary to the occupied space.

Philosophy is the search-- wank? --for the truth regarding our finite, occupied space Universe.

Balance between higher and lower frequencies,
is where we find humans of Universe, and,
their human individual's search for,
balance between,human heart{ emotions/chemistry }, with,
metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts, that,
we intuit,
guide the individuals purpose, ergo,
all local manifestations by them, thereof.

That too is purpose of philosophy. No surprises there.

Time exists asfrequency periods of time, eternally. Time is always with us irrespective how long or short its frequency periods.
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10/24/2017 12:21:19 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/7/2015 8:46:02 PM, SolonKR wrote:
Discuss.

- To answer your very question.
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