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What does it mean to beg the question?

roun12
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6/14/2016 11:42:28 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 11:38:19 PM, ILoveSitarMusic wrote:
I am just curious.

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6/15/2016 6:35:21 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 11:38:19 PM, ILoveSitarMusic wrote:
I am just curious.

Get on your knees and I will tell you.
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6/15/2016 8:34:40 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
I think the 'non standard' meaning 'prompts the question' is now to be preferred. Words and phrases cjange meaning over time and only a few pedants insist on its former sense... You are less likely to be misunderstood by most people if you use it on its new sense and being understood - not adherence to outmoded dictionary definitions - is what matters.

I'm not saying anything goes... But like 'billion' meaning million million ptq has changed.
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6/15/2016 11:30:49 PM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/14/2016 11:38:19 PM, ILoveSitarMusic wrote:
I am just curious.

To make an assumption that's not stated in the argument.
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AndDontCallMeShirley
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6/16/2016 12:04:02 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/15/2016 11:30:49 PM, n7 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 11:38:19 PM, ILoveSitarMusic wrote:
I am just curious.

To make an assumption that's not stated in the argument.

Actually, that's not right.

To "beg the question" is to assume the conclusion in the premises. E.g., "The Bible is divinely inspired, because God says so in the Bible."

It's a type of circular reasoning.
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6/16/2016 3:55:56 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
At 6/16/2016 12:04:02 AM, AndDontCallMeShirley wrote:
At 6/15/2016 11:30:49 PM, n7 wrote:
At 6/14/2016 11:38:19 PM, ILoveSitarMusic wrote:
I am just curious.

To make an assumption that's not stated in the argument.

Actually, that's not right.

To "beg the question" is to assume the conclusion in the premises. E.g., "The Bible is divinely inspired, because God says so in the Bible."

It's a type of circular reasoning.
I've heard otherwise. This was from some lectures on logic. But I've also heard what you said, but thought it was wrong. Most websites confirm what you're saying though.
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keithprosser
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6/16/2016 7:26:29 AM
Posted: 5 months ago
Clearly the original meaning is either not known or badly understood. The new meaning of 'leads one to ask' is understood by just about everybody and is how I would use the term - pedants be danged! Does anyone use 'decimate' to mean 'to kill one in ten' anymore?