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12/28/2010 2:08:44 AM
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The title is self-explanatory.
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12/28/2010 2:20:05 AM
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Principia Discordia
A People's History of the United States
Any of the books I shall write in the future.
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12/28/2010 2:32:22 AM
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At 12/28/2010 2:20:05 AM, FREEDO wrote:
Principia Discordia
A People's History of the United States
Any of the books I shall write in the future.

That would be interesting :D
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12/28/2010 2:37:06 AM
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At 12/28/2010 2:08:44 AM, vardas0antras wrote:
The title is self-explanatory.

I'll limit myself to 7:

Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media - Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky

Ten Great Works of Philosophy ----- This might be cheating because it has more than one book, but of well.

Contained therein:

Plato: Apology, Crito, and Death of Socrates from Phaedo
Aristotle: Poetics
St. Anselm: The Ontological Proof of St. Anselm, from Proslogium
St. Thomas Aquinas: St. Thomas' Proofs of God's Existence, from The Summa Theologica
René Descartes: Meditations on the First Philosophy
David Hume: An Inquiry Concerning Human Understanding
Immanuel Kant: Prolegomena to Any Future Metaphysics
John Stuart Mill: Utilitarianism
William James: The Will to Believe

The End of Faith: Religion, Terror, And The Future of Reason - Sam Harris

The Brothers Karamazov - Fyodor Dostoyevsky

1984 - George Orwell (Seriously, if haven't read it yet, read it first.)

The Grand Design - Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow

Four Views on Free Will - John Martin Fischer , Robert Kane, Derk Pereboom, Manuel Vargas
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12/28/2010 2:39:17 AM
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Since this is in the Philosophy forum, I'm guessing you want Philosophical books?

- Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche
- The Republic by Plato (eww... but it's a classic)
- On the Geneology of Morals by Friedrich Nietzsche
- Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes
- Das Kapital by Karl Marx
- Beyond Good and Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche
- An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding by David Hume
- The Archaeology of Knowledge & The Discourse on Language by Michel Foucault
- Being and Nothingness by Jean-Paul Sartre

Those are good to start with imo.
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12/28/2010 2:44:42 AM
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At 12/28/2010 2:39:17 AM, annhasle wrote:
Since this is in the Philosophy forum, I'm guessing you want Philosophical books?

- Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche
- The Republic by Plato (eww... but it's a classic)
- On the Geneology of Morals by Friedrich Nietzsche
- Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes
- Das Kapital by Karl Marx
- Beyond Good and Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche
- An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding by David Hume
- The Archaeology of Knowledge & The Discourse on Language by Michel Foucault
- Being and Nothingness by Jean-Paul Sartre

Those are good to start with imo.

In case anyone else is wondering the answer is yes !!!!
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12/28/2010 2:46:49 AM
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Is that an okay list though? Friedrich Nietsche is my favorite if you can't tell. :P
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12/28/2010 2:47:15 AM
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At 12/28/2010 2:44:42 AM, vardas0antras wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:39:17 AM, annhasle wrote:
Since this is in the Philosophy forum, I'm guessing you want Philosophical books?

- Thus Spoke Zarathustra by Friedrich Nietzsche
- The Republic by Plato (eww... but it's a classic)
- On the Geneology of Morals by Friedrich Nietzsche
- Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes
- Das Kapital by Karl Marx
- Beyond Good and Evil by Friedrich Nietzsche
- An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding by David Hume
- The Archaeology of Knowledge & The Discourse on Language by Michel Foucault
- Being and Nothingness by Jean-Paul Sartre

Those are good to start with imo.

In case anyone else is wondering the answer is yes !!!!

If you're interested in contemporary philosophy, then I'd suggest starting with Writings on an ethical life - Peter Singer.
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12/28/2010 2:51:18 AM
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At 12/28/2010 2:39:17 AM, annhasle wrote:
Since this is in the Philosophy forum, I'm guessing you want Philosophical books?

Guess so?

Good and Real - Gary Drescher
Oxford's Philosophy of Science
Darwin's Dangerous Idea - Daniel Dennett
The Blank Slate - Steven Pinker
Any decent Intro to Logic course book.
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12/28/2010 2:52:53 AM
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At 12/28/2010 2:51:18 AM, Puck wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:39:17 AM, annhasle wrote:
Since this is in the Philosophy forum, I'm guessing you want Philosophical books?

Guess so?

It was a tongue-in-cheek remark at the previous posts which weren't philosophical. :P
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12/28/2010 2:54:44 AM
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At 12/28/2010 2:52:53 AM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:51:18 AM, Puck wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:39:17 AM, annhasle wrote:
Since this is in the Philosophy forum, I'm guessing you want Philosophical books?

Guess so?

It was a tongue-in-cheek remark at the previous posts which weren't philosophical. :P

What ?
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12/28/2010 2:55:09 AM
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At 12/28/2010 2:51:18 AM, Puck wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:39:17 AM, annhasle wrote:
Since this is in the Philosophy forum, I'm guessing you want Philosophical books?

Guess so?

Good and Real - Gary Drescher
Oxford's Philosophy of Science
Darwin's Dangerous Idea - Daniel Dennett
The Blank Slate - Steven Pinker
Any decent Intro to Logic course book.

Logic and Philosophy: a Modern Introduction. Tenth Edition ed.
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12/28/2010 2:56:09 AM
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At 12/28/2010 2:54:44 AM, vardas0antras wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:52:53 AM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:51:18 AM, Puck wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:39:17 AM, annhasle wrote:
Since this is in the Philosophy forum, I'm guessing you want Philosophical books?

Guess so?

It was a tongue-in-cheek remark at the previous posts which weren't philosophical. :P

What ?

http://www.answers.com...
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12/28/2010 2:56:11 AM
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At 12/28/2010 2:54:44 AM, vardas0antras wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:52:53 AM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:51:18 AM, Puck wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:39:17 AM, annhasle wrote:
Since this is in the Philosophy forum, I'm guessing you want Philosophical books?

Guess so?

It was a tongue-in-cheek remark at the previous posts which weren't philosophical. :P

What ?

Oh sorry I imagined two people... Horay for google :)
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12/28/2010 3:00:55 AM
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A fair amount of the things I'd suggest have been posted. My first read was The Myth of Sisyphus - Albert Camus.
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12/28/2010 3:04:39 AM
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At 12/28/2010 2:55:09 AM, Freeman wrote:
Logic and Philosophy: a Modern Introduction. Tenth Edition ed.

Thanks. I think it should be at the top of any reading list before you start working on any specific author/theme.
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12/28/2010 3:16:27 AM
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At 12/28/2010 3:04:39 AM, Puck wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:55:09 AM, Freeman wrote:
Logic and Philosophy: a Modern Introduction. Tenth Edition ed.

Thanks. I think it should be at the top of any reading list before you start working on any specific author/theme.

Well.....

Logic is extremely important, of course. It can also be a bit dry. As such, I wouldn't recommend that people start there.

When I teach a course in philosophy, I think I'm going to start by giving my students a book on critical thinking in general (probably The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan).
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12/28/2010 3:20:25 AM
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At 12/28/2010 3:16:27 AM, Freeman wrote:
At 12/28/2010 3:04:39 AM, Puck wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:55:09 AM, Freeman wrote:
Logic and Philosophy: a Modern Introduction. Tenth Edition ed.

Thanks. I think it should be at the top of any reading list before you start working on any specific author/theme.

Well.....

Logic is extremely important, of course. It can also be a bit dry. As such, I wouldn't recommend that people start there.

Wanna debate that? :P

When I teach a course in philosophy, I think I'm going to start by giving my students a book on critical thinking in general (probably The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan).

Hmm, but to properly 'use' critical thinking, you would have to understand the principles of logic.
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12/28/2010 3:27:35 AM
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At 12/28/2010 3:20:25 AM, annhasle wrote:
At 12/28/2010 3:16:27 AM, Freeman wrote:
At 12/28/2010 3:04:39 AM, Puck wrote:
At 12/28/2010 2:55:09 AM, Freeman wrote:
Logic and Philosophy: a Modern Introduction. Tenth Edition ed.

Thanks. I think it should be at the top of any reading list before you start working on any specific author/theme.

Well.....

Logic is extremely important, of course. It can also be a bit dry. As such, I wouldn't recommend that people start there.

Wanna debate that? :P

That logic is extremely important? :P

Or that people shouldn't start there?

When I teach a course in philosophy, I think I'm going to start by giving my students a book on critical thinking in general (probably The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan).

Hmm, but to properly 'use' critical thinking, you would have to understand the principles of logic.

Not really. The basics of critical thinking can be had long before you completely understand disjunctive syllogisms or DeMorgan's Law. By 'logic' I'm referring to first order and second order logic.
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12/28/2010 4:34:04 AM
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When I'm in school, I seldom have the luxury of reading long books outside of class, so most of my exposure to modern analytic philosophy has been through scholarly journal articles and lectures from The Teaching Company on my iPod.

'Freedom Evolves' by Dan Dennett is great, as is 'Darwin's Dangerous Idea,' as Puck pointed out.

Since you're a Christian, I suggest 'The Blackwell Companion to Natural Theology.' I've only read the section on the Leibnizian cosmological argument, but I'm familiar with the authors and it comes highly recommended from popculturepooka. It's extremely challenging, though; you might want something more beginner-friendly like 'Reasonable Faith' by William Lane Craig.

If you're interested in political philosophy, some of my favorites are 'Anarchy, State, & Utopia' by Robert Nozick, 'For a New Liberty' by Murry Rothbard, and 'The Libertarian Idea' by Jan Narveson.
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12/28/2010 4:51:11 AM
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At 12/28/2010 4:34:04 AM, J.Kenyon wrote:
When I'm in school, I seldom have the luxury of reading long books outside of class, so most of my exposure to modern analytic philosophy has been through scholarly journal articles and lectures from The Teaching Company on my iPod.

'Freedom Evolves' by Dan Dennett is great, as is 'Darwin's Dangerous Idea,' as Puck pointed out.

Since you're a Christian, I suggest 'The Blackwell Companion to Natural Theology.' I've only read the section on the Leibnizian cosmological argument, but I'm familiar with the authors and it comes highly recommended from popculturepooka. It's extremely challenging, though; you might want something more beginner-friendly like 'Reasonable Faith' by William Lane Craig.

If you're interested in political philosophy, some of my favorites are 'Anarchy, State, & Utopia' by Robert Nozick, 'For a New Liberty' by Murry Rothbard, and 'The Libertarian Idea' by Jan Narveson.

Will get it but now its too expensive namely because I still have to buy two other books.
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12/28/2010 11:04:57 AM
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People have covered most everything, although i didn't see:

De Rerum Natura
by Lucretius

Nicomachean Ethics
Aristotle.

Epictetus Discourses, or anything really good on Stoicism - good foundational stuff.
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12/28/2010 12:32:03 PM
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Why Smart People Believe Weird Things by Michael Shermer

The Drunkard's Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives by
Leonard Mlodinow

The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable by Nassim Nicholas Taleb

Nonbelief and Evil: Two Arguments for the Nonexistence of God by Theodore Drange

The Varieties of Religious Experience by William James

Some book on world religion, such as
The World's Religions: Our Great Wisdom Traditions by Huston Smith
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12/28/2010 12:44:20 PM
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At 12/28/2010 12:32:03 PM, RoyLatham wrote:

The Varieties of Religious Experience by William James
Seconded.
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12/28/2010 12:50:07 PM
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Plato's Republic

Inside the third Reich, albert spears (more of a history and psychology then philosophy).
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12/28/2010 2:14:50 PM
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Selected Political Writings by John Locke

The New International Dictionary of Quotations by Miner & Rawson

_________ "A Very Short Introduction" series by Oxford
(fill in the blank with any major philosopher, about $12 each)

I most often cite John Locke, George Washington, Ben Franklin, or Thomas Jefferson. There are boo koodles of material based upon what you need at the moment. You can usually google what you need unless you don't mind some "dry" reading.

Other people often cited:
Socrates
Plato
Aristotle
Flavius Josephus
Confucius
Marcus Aurelius
Thomas Aquinas
Niccolo Machiavelli
Martin Luther
Thomas Hobbes
Rene' Descartes
Blaise Pascal
Baruch Spinoza
David Hume
Immanuel Kant
Edmund Burke
Jean-Jacques Rosseau
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Henry David Thoreau
John Stuart Mill
Soren Kierkegaard
Friedrich Nietzsche
Sigmund Freud
Mahatma Gandhi
Martin Luther King Jr
Harry Stack Sullivan
Karl Jung
B.F. Skinner
Alfred Adler
John Nash