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Discipulus_Didicit
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8/8/2016 4:33:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
If a sentence that isn't asking a question lacks a question mark, is that question mark considered 'missing'?

If a thread OP that was not supposed to convince anyone of anything but instead was meant to provoke thought and discussion lacks an argument, is that argument considered 'missing'?

I have met a person by the name of BlueDreams in another of my threads that would answer yes to the second question. I made this new one for them to redirect them to, so that they could go into more detail about their fascinating point of view without derailing my other - far more interesting - thread
Are you a man of peace
Or a man of holy war?
Too many sides to you,
Don't know which any more.

So many full of life
But also filled with pain.
Don't know just how many
Will live to breathe again.
keithprosser
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8/8/2016 5:54:46 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'd say debates can be 'dialectic' or 'adversarial'. Dialectic debates are like chats over a campfire tossing ideas around in a co-operative effort to uncover a truth that no participant could do on their own.

Adversarial debates are more like sport where the object is not to get at the truth but to get more votes than you opponent.

There is a section of this board dedicated to adversarial debates, so I would like it if the forums section was more dialectical, but a lot of treat thread end up as no-holds barred adversarial debates where the opponent must be crushed, no error admitted to and any kite found flying is shot down in flames.

I'd like to see more constructive brainstorming in the forums. However I expect someone will now jump in and argue how wrong I am....
Throwback
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8/8/2016 2:44:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/8/2016 5:54:46 AM, keithprosser wrote:
I'd say debates can be 'dialectic' or 'adversarial'. Dialectic debates are like chats over a campfire tossing ideas around in a co-operative effort to uncover a truth that no participant could do on their own.

Adversarial debates are more like sport where the object is not to get at the truth but to get more votes than you opponent.

There is a section of this board dedicated to adversarial debates, so I would like it if the forums section was more dialectical, but a lot of treat thread end up as no-holds barred adversarial debates where the opponent must be crushed, no error admitted to and any kite found flying is shot down in flames.

I'd like to see more constructive brainstorming in the forums. However I expect someone will now jump in and argue how wrong I am....

Amen to that! The forums are not adversarial debates. There's a section for that.
When I respond with "OK" don't take it personally. I'm simply being appropriately dismissive.
Discipulus_Didicit
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8/8/2016 6:34:32 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
He's still trying to derail my other thread, deapite me complementing him and asking him to move here instead. Maybe if I ignore him he will go away. That usually works, right?
Are you a man of peace
Or a man of holy war?
Too many sides to you,
Don't know which any more.

So many full of life
But also filled with pain.
Don't know just how many
Will live to breathe again.
keithprosser
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8/8/2016 8:07:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Ignoring is very hard to pull off. To do it properly you aren't even allowed to tell them you are ignoring them. It has to be like the post isn't there...

It happens to my posts all the time - I hope it's not always on purpose!
Discipulus_Didicit
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8/9/2016 12:22:26 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 8/8/2016 8:07:23 PM, keithprosser wrote:
Ignoring is very hard to pull off. To do it properly you aren't even allowed to tell them you are ignoring them. It has to be like the post isn't there...

It happens to my posts all the time - I hope it's not always on purpose!

Lol, I actually read a lot of what you say. Just can't always think of a response I would consider worth being said.
Are you a man of peace
Or a man of holy war?
Too many sides to you,
Don't know which any more.

So many full of life
But also filled with pain.
Don't know just how many
Will live to breathe again.