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Morality and Ethics: Objective v. Subjective

M.Torres
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1/9/2011 1:41:37 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
What is morality - and is it objective or subjective?

What are ethics - and are they objective or subjective?

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: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

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annhasle
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1/9/2011 2:16:20 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Objective morality --> does not exist.

Subjective morality --> does exist but it is pretty much useless as an ethical position.

Oh, btw -- I'm a moral nihilist.
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M.Torres
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1/9/2011 2:26:50 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/9/2011 1:41:37 AM, M.Torres wrote:
What is morality - and is it objective or subjective?

What are ethics - and are they objective or subjective?

For all the nihilists out there - what is the reasoning of your position?

Debaters ready? Go.

Fixed.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
annhasle
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1/9/2011 2:35:12 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/9/2011 2:26:50 AM, M.Torres wrote:
At 1/9/2011 1:41:37 AM, M.Torres wrote:
t are ethics - and are they objective or subjective?

For all the nihilists out there - what is the reasoning of your position?

I'm a nihilist because:

- objective morality doesn't exist

- subjective morality is useless
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
annhasle
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1/9/2011 2:35:33 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/9/2011 2:35:12 AM, annhasle wrote:
At 1/9/2011 2:26:50 AM, M.Torres wrote:
At 1/9/2011 1:41:37 AM, M.Torres wrote:


For all the nihilists out there - what is the reasoning of your position?


I'm a nihilist because:

- objective morality doesn't exist

- subjective morality is useless

Fix'd.
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
Cody_Franklin
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1/9/2011 2:35:56 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Meta-ethically speaking, any moral code that you could present to me is ultimately founded on some arbitrary principle or thing assumed to have moral importance or value, like freedom, human life, or happiness. At the point that the whole code you're proposing is meta-ethically arbitrary, the theory becomes illegitimate and loses all validity in terms of objectivity. Most moralists run into the problem of assuming that moral facts exist without ever going back to verify that fundamental proposition.
tvellalott
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1/9/2011 2:46:18 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
@cody&ann: Way to kill the thread.

I'm a moral nihlist too. Ones goal in life should only be their own pleasure.

I get pleasure from the pleasure of others, so it's all good.
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annhasle
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1/9/2011 2:48:04 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/9/2011 2:46:18 AM, tvellalott wrote:
@cody&ann: Way to kill the thread.

Lol, Sorry?

I'm a moral nihlist too.

*high five*
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tvellalott
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1/9/2011 2:56:08 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/9/2011 2:54:22 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 1/9/2011 2:46:18 AM, tvellalott wrote:
I'm a moral nihlist too.

Ones goal in life should only be...

Wat

I dunno. I'm pretty stoned.
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mattrodstrom
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1/9/2011 8:02:28 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/9/2011 2:16:20 AM, annhasle wrote:
Objective morality --> does not exist.
True

Subjective morality --> does exist
True

but it is pretty much useless as an ethical position.

Nope... How's that?

Oh, btw -- I'm a moral nihilist.
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"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."