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mattrodstrom
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1/26/2011 5:55:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
about 2 minutes in.. it assumes a dualistic view of reality without any support whatsoever..

at least no support yet :P
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
GodSands
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1/26/2011 5:55:36 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
: At 1/26/2011 5:53:09 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
That site makes me laugh so hard. I've seen it before. :P

Have you watched the video of Jason Lisle teaching on the ultimate proof?
mattrodstrom
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1/26/2011 5:57:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
and DNA doesn't have "information", or "instructions"

it has patterns.

"information" is what we pass back and forth through discussion.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
PARADIGM_L0ST
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1/26/2011 5:59:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Watching it now... Now I'm really intrigued when he said, "But I will guarantee this, that there is no rational comeback to this argument -- it is absolutely irrefutable."

I'll chime in when I'm done.
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Sangers
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1/26/2011 6:12:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/26/2011 6:11:09 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
"If the Bible isn't true, then there's no basis for the laws of logic."

Yeah no.

lawl is that what it says in the vid? FAIL o.0
CosmicAlfonzo
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1/26/2011 6:16:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Guys, this video was made by a DOCTOR. Someone with a P.H.D.

Surely there must be SOME bit of knowledge here.
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PARADIGM_L0ST
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1/26/2011 6:51:15 PM
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That was a waste of time. There was no argument. All he did was say that atheists have an escape mechanism and that they interpret this different. Uh, and creationists don't do that?!?!
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GodSands
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1/26/2011 6:53:22 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
: At 1/26/2011 6:51:15 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
That was a waste of time. There was no argument. All he did was say that atheists have an escape mechanism and that they interpret this different. Uh, and creationists don't do that?!?!

Yeah maybe I should have mentioned there are 4 videos to this.
GodSands
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1/26/2011 7:02:01 PM
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: At 1/26/2011 6:51:15 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
That was a waste of time. There was no argument. All he did was say that atheists have an escape mechanism and that they interpret this different. Uh, and creationists don't do that?!?!

Jason Lisle (the lecturer) in videos 2, 3 and 4 gets into the laws of logic morality and uniformity of nature, and the refuting of world views, explaining how they are all inconsistent with themselves. And that the world view of Christianity is the ONLY constistent world view.
J.Kenyon
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1/26/2011 7:07:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/26/2011 6:16:28 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Godsands, please lay off the AIG. Please.

Lo, Jason Lisle belongs in an institution ^_^
annhasle
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1/26/2011 7:14:17 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/26/2011 7:07:29 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 1/26/2011 6:16:28 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Godsands, please lay off the AIG. Please.

Lo, Jason Lisle belongs in an institution ^_^

That's an insult to institutionalized people. Jason Lisle deserves to be sedated and stuck in a cave in Tibet. :P
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
GodSands
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1/26/2011 7:19:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
: At 1/26/2011 7:14:17 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 1/26/2011 7:07:29 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 1/26/2011 6:16:28 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Godsands, please lay off the AIG. Please.

Lo, Jason Lisle belongs in an institution ^_^

That's an insult to institutionalized people. Jason Lisle deserves to be sedated and stuck in a cave in Tibet. :P


Care to watch the 4 video clips, a combine length of 58 minutes? Trust me, you will learn a lot with that time. Or you could just continue to blindly criticise?
mattrodstrom
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1/26/2011 7:21:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/26/2011 7:19:46 PM, GodSands wrote:
: At 1/26/2011 7:14:17 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 1/26/2011 7:07:29 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 1/26/2011 6:16:28 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Godsands, please lay off the AIG. Please.

Lo, Jason Lisle belongs in an institution ^_^

That's an insult to institutionalized people. Jason Lisle deserves to be sedated and stuck in a cave in Tibet. :P


Care to watch the 4 video clips, a combine length of 58 minutes? Trust me, you will learn a lot with that time. Or you could just continue to blindly criticise?

I watched the first 15... and learned nothing...

somehow I doubt the payoff would be any greater if I clocked in more time :/
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
GodSands
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1/26/2011 7:23:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
: At 1/26/2011 7:21:45 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 1/26/2011 7:19:46 PM, GodSands wrote:
: At 1/26/2011 7:14:17 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 1/26/2011 7:07:29 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 1/26/2011 6:16:28 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Godsands, please lay off the AIG. Please.

Lo, Jason Lisle belongs in an institution ^_^

That's an insult to institutionalized people. Jason Lisle deserves to be sedated and stuck in a cave in Tibet. :P


Care to watch the 4 video clips, a combine length of 58 minutes? Trust me, you will learn a lot with that time. Or you could just continue to blindly criticise?

I watched the first 15... and learned nothing...

somehow I doubt the payoff would be any greater if I clocked in more time :/


Three more videos to watch bud.
mattrodstrom
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1/26/2011 7:25:31 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/26/2011 7:23:56 PM, GodSands wrote:
Three more videos to watch bud.

lol
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
annhasle
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1/26/2011 7:27:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/26/2011 7:19:46 PM, GodSands wrote:
: At 1/26/2011 7:14:17 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 1/26/2011 7:07:29 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 1/26/2011 6:16:28 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Godsands, please lay off the AIG. Please.

Lo, Jason Lisle belongs in an institution ^_^

That's an insult to institutionalized people. Jason Lisle deserves to be sedated and stuck in a cave in Tibet. :P


Care to watch the 4 video clips, a combine length of 58 minutes? Trust me, you will learn a lot with that time. Or you could just continue to blindly criticise?

You know what Godsands, I will. I will watch all four and then right a full response to it. Sound good?
I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
J.Kenyon
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1/26/2011 7:29:31 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/26/2011 7:19:46 PM, GodSands wrote:
: At 1/26/2011 7:14:17 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 1/26/2011 7:07:29 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 1/26/2011 6:16:28 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Godsands, please lay off the AIG. Please.

Lo, Jason Lisle belongs in an institution ^_^

That's an insult to institutionalized people. Jason Lisle deserves to be sedated and stuck in a cave in Tibet. :P


Care to watch the 4 video clips, a combine length of 58 minutes? Trust me, you will learn a lot with that time. Or you could just continue to blindly criticise?

D00d, I'm a neuroscience major. First trimester this year, I took the hardest class of my life. Guess what it was called? Evolution & Genetics w/Lab. I've observed first hand Drosophila melanogaster speciation. I've worked with bioinformatics and compared homologous genetic traits using algorithms that can approximate when the trait evolved or when different forms of it diverged. This trimester, I'm taking the second hardest class of my life: Biolgy: Form and Function. I have nothing to learn from Jason Lisle, trust me.
GodSands
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1/26/2011 7:29:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
: At 1/26/2011 7:27:52 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 1/26/2011 7:19:46 PM, GodSands wrote:
: At 1/26/2011 7:14:17 PM, annhasle wrote:
At 1/26/2011 7:07:29 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 1/26/2011 6:16:28 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Godsands, please lay off the AIG. Please.

Lo, Jason Lisle belongs in an institution ^_^

That's an insult to institutionalized people. Jason Lisle deserves to be sedated and stuck in a cave in Tibet. :P


Care to watch the 4 video clips, a combine length of 58 minutes? Trust me, you will learn a lot with that time. Or you could just continue to blindly criticise?

You know what Godsands, I will. I will watch all four and then right a full response to it. Sound good?


Yeah sounds good. :)
Sieben
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1/26/2011 9:03:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/26/2011 7:29:31 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:

D00d, I'm a neuroscience major. First trimester this year,
Don't listen to him Godsands. He's pregnant and clearly hysterical.

I took the hardest class of my life. Guess what it was called? Evolution & Genetics w/Lab.
And he even takes classes with a Labrador. What is he blind or something? Blind people can't read the bible. That's probably why Kenyon isn't a christian. You should read it to him.

I've observed first hand Drosophila melanogaster speciation. I've worked with bioinformatics and compared homologous genetic traits using algorithms that can approximate when the trait evolved or when different forms of it diverged.
Lol. He knows he's lost the debate so he starts making up words. Next he'll be telling us about the "female orgasm" and "global warming". These limousine liberals are so tiresome.

This trimester, I'm taking the second hardest class of my life: Biolgy: Form and Function. I have nothing to learn from Jason Lisle, trust me.
Except how to avoid the hellfires of hell! Honestly he can do what he wants, but you've go to save his baby Godsands! He might abort it, and we all know that even unborn infants can go to hell.
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Grape
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1/26/2011 10:10:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
@J.Kenyon - In AP Biology last year I spent a couple weeks on a lab that involved fruit fly genetics. It was the worse thing ever, and I was in a high school course designed just to teach you enough for placement. I pity you if you did a whole semester on that. The extremely low survival rate of the flies does not make it any easier...

I am watching the video right now and his whole understanding of science is very flawed.