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J.Kenyon
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5/12/2011 2:00:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
According to Zogby, Paul is polling 10%. Herman Cain leads with 14%, but we all know he won't win because he's black and probably connected to the Mafia.

Behind Paul are Romney, with 9%, Gingrich with 7%, Palin, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Trump, and Daniels with 4% each, Bachman and Santorum with 2%, and Gary Johnson with 1%.

Technically, Chris Christie is leading with 18%, which places Ron Paul in 3rd, but he's publicly stated that he'd rather commit suicide than run for president.

"IBOPE Zogby International conducted an online survey of 1,377 likely Republican primary voters. A sampling of IBOPE Zogby International's online panel, which is representative of the adult population of the U.S., was invited to participate. Slight weights were added to party, age, race, religion, and gender to more accurately reflect the population. The margin of error is +/- 2.7 percentage points." - http://www.zogby.com...-/
Extremely-Far-Right
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5/12/2011 2:16:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/12/2011 2:00:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
According to Zogby, Paul is polling 10%. Herman Cain leads with 14%, but we all know he won't win because he's black and probably connected to the Mafia.

Behind Paul are Romney, with 9%, Gingrich with 7%, Palin, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Trump, and Daniels with 4% each, Bachman and Santorum with 2%, and Gary Johnson with 1%.

Technically, Chris Christie is leading with 18%, which places Ron Paul in 3rd, but he's publicly stated that he'd rather commit suicide than run for president.

"IBOPE Zogby International conducted an online survey of 1,377 likely Republican primary voters. A sampling of IBOPE Zogby International's online panel, which is representative of the adult population of the U.S., was invited to participate. Slight weights were added to party, age, race, religion, and gender to more accurately reflect the population. The margin of error is +/- 2.7 percentage points." - http://www.zogby.com...-/

I'm still really confused about where this Herman Cain came from all of a sudden.. He is one of the few that hasn't even been in public office correct?
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5/12/2011 2:31:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At this point, all that really matters is that Ron Paul is beating Newt Gingrich because he's the only big name and strongest contender against RP.

But Newt should be easy to beat because he cheated on his wife dying of cancer and then dumped her. He also wrote "I like Reeses Peanutbutter Cups" on Twitter and then deleted it when he decided to run. Dumb. His policies are fail.

Herman Cain ran in 2004 so I don't get why he's getting all the hype this time around. One might ask why Ron Paul is bigger this election than last, but the answer is obvious. Herman Cains rise to popularity makes no sense. And he's full black with an accent, so he can't win. We had enough trouble trying to make the half-white Obama electable.
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5/12/2011 6:46:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/12/2011 2:16:42 PM, Extremely-Far-Right wrote:
At 5/12/2011 2:00:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
According to Zogby, Paul is polling 10%. Herman Cain leads with 14%, but we all know he won't win because he's black and probably connected to the Mafia.

Behind Paul are Romney, with 9%, Gingrich with 7%, Palin, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Trump, and Daniels with 4% each, Bachman and Santorum with 2%, and Gary Johnson with 1%.

Technically, Chris Christie is leading with 18%, which places Ron Paul in 3rd, but he's publicly stated that he'd rather commit suicide than run for president.

"IBOPE Zogby International conducted an online survey of 1,377 likely Republican primary voters. A sampling of IBOPE Zogby International's online panel, which is representative of the adult population of the U.S., was invited to participate. Slight weights were added to party, age, race, religion, and gender to more accurately reflect the population. The margin of error is +/- 2.7 percentage points." - http://www.zogby.com...-/

I'm still really confused about where this Herman Cain came from all of a sudden.. He is one of the few that hasn't even been in public office correct?

The media is kind of in an affirmative action frenzy when it comes to getting a black president. That's how Obama got elected. Seriously the dude had no experience whatsoever and somehow became president of the united states. He didn't have any legislative achievements, been in senate for less than 200 days when he decided to run.

Go figure.
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5/13/2011 9:09:19 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/12/2011 2:31:47 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At this point, all that really matters is that Ron Paul is beating Newt Gingrich because he's the only big name and strongest contender against RP.

But Newt should be easy to beat because he cheated on his wife dying of cancer and then dumped her. He also wrote "I like Reeses Peanutbutter Cups" on Twitter and then deleted it when he decided to run. Dumb. His policies are fail.

Woah, Newt clearly justified his...
married his high school geometry teacher when he was 19, left her for the woman he was having an affair with. He then cheated on wife 2 with a House of Representatives staffer who was 23 years younger than him, divorced wife 2 married the staffer, wife 3.
He loves the country too much.
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5/13/2011 10:45:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/12/2011 6:46:09 PM, darkkermit wrote:
The media is kind of in an affirmative action frenzy when it comes to getting a black president. That's how Obama got elected.

Omg lol... ridiculous.

If that were true then why didn't this "affirmative action frenzy" apply to Hillary who would have become the first woman president of the U.S.?

Moreover, if that were true then why hasn't any other black person who run for president (Shirley Chisholm, Jesse Jackson, Lenora Fulani, Carol Braun, Alan Keyes or Al Sharpton) won because of this media frenzy?

Seriously the dude had no experience whatsoever

What kind of experience do you need to be a good decision maker? That's all the president does, and even then he has an entire staff directing him on what decisions to make.

Lol I'm just gonna stop replying here and sign off DDO now. I've had my share of lulz for the day. Yes, clearly Obama won because he's half black. End of story.
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5/13/2011 12:34:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/13/2011 10:45:13 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 5/12/2011 6:46:09 PM, darkkermit wrote:
The media is kind of in an affirmative action frenzy when it comes to getting a black president. That's how Obama got elected.

Omg lol... ridiculous.

If that were true then why didn't this "affirmative action frenzy" apply to Hillary who would have become the first woman president of the U.S.?

Moreover, if that were true then why hasn't any other black person who run for president (Shirley Chisholm, Jesse Jackson, Lenora Fulani, Carol Braun, Alan Keyes or Al Sharpton) won because of this media frenzy?

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton haha
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5/13/2011 1:15:50 PM
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But Newt should be easy to beat because he cheated on his wife dying of cancer and then dumped her.

Yeah all while spear-heading the effort to get Clinton impeached :P
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5/13/2011 2:57:23 PM
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At 5/12/2011 2:00:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
Herman Cain leads with 14%, but we all know he won't win because he's black and probably connected to the Mafia.

10/10
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5/13/2011 3:38:01 PM
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At 5/12/2011 2:00:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
"IBOPE Zogby International conducted an online survey of 1,377 likely Republican primary voters. A sampling of IBOPE Zogby International's online panel, which is representative of the adult population of the U.S., was invited to participate. Slight weights were added to party, age, race, religion, and gender to more accurately reflect the population. The margin of error is +/- 2.7 percentage points." - http://www.zogby.com...-/

The above underlined is the problem. There are major problems with internet polling:
It is not random. This makes it more likely that a specific type of person is likely to vote. In this instance, it is likely to be a larger proportion of young libertarians that would go to such a website than exists in the real world. Younger people are more likely to be on the internet in the first place. Now if we break down the Republican Party, younger voters flock to Ron Paul in much larger numbers than any other candidate. This is why, via an internet poll, he would appear to be in the lead. This is misleading. Similar random polls conducted from a broader audience that is more representative of the Republican Party would yield very different results. Check Gallup.

Sorry to burst your bubble.
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5/13/2011 4:34:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/13/2011 10:45:13 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 5/12/2011 6:46:09 PM, darkkermit wrote:
The media is kind of in an affirmative action frenzy when it comes to getting a black president. That's how Obama got elected.

Omg lol... ridiculous.

If that were true then why didn't this "affirmative action frenzy" apply to Hillary who would have become the first woman president of the U.S.?:

Black people trump white women in the hierarchy of affirmative action ;)
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5/13/2011 6:46:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/13/2011 2:57:23 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 5/12/2011 2:00:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
Herman Cain leads with 14%, but we all know he won't win because he's black and probably connected to the Mafia.

10/10

Cain needs to come out and give a speech on race. Something like this might just win people over.
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5/13/2011 6:54:38 PM
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Look, if we're gonna vote strictly by race, Sho'Nuff has my vote.
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5/14/2011 12:36:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
The online polls are definitely important and reveal RP's extremely dedicated and growing group of supporters, but yeah, young libertarians, really the bulk of RP's "fanbase", are more likely to be active on the web than others, and also are simply more dedicated in terms of voting on polls... Unfortunately, that doesn't necessarily translate into a significant increase in votes when it really comes down to it...
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5/14/2011 8:26:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/13/2011 10:45:13 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 5/12/2011 6:46:09 PM, darkkermit wrote:
The media is kind of in an affirmative action frenzy when it comes to getting a black president. That's how Obama got elected.

Omg lol... ridiculous.

If that were true then why didn't this "affirmative action frenzy" apply to Hillary who would have become the first woman president of the U.S.?

black man sounds more progressive then female president. Great Britain and Germany already had a female prime minister.

Moreover, if that were true then why hasn't any other black person who run for president (Shirley Chisholm, Jesse Jackson, Lenora Fulani, Carol Braun, Alan Keyes or Al Sharpton) won because of this media frenzy?

I'm guessing not strong enough candidates. Really don't know enough about them.

Seriously the dude had no experience whatsoever

What kind of experience do you need to be a good decision maker? That's all the president does, and even then he has an entire staff directing him on what decisions to make.

Yea, which is why any person who runs has a good chance of becoming president. Oh wait, they need media attention first don't they? Why did Barack obama get media attention when he literally had no significant legislative history? There were other candidates running, yet the media focused on him.

And now the media is focusing on a pizza man. Seriously, one must wonder if the media is playing some sort of trick on us.

Lol I'm just gonna stop replying here and sign off DDO now. I've had my share of lulz for the day. Yes, clearly Obama won because he's half black. End of story.

Yep. But he also had the speaking charisma of hitler as well.
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5/14/2011 8:29:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/14/2011 8:26:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Great Britain and Germany already had a female prime minister.

Margaret Thatcher doesn't count as a woman. lrn2 librul
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5/14/2011 8:37:21 PM
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At 5/14/2011 7:55:44 PM, comoncents wrote:
Huckabee said NO!


He is not running!!!!

Relief.

His campaign must have told him that religious whackos are out of style right now.
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