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RAND PAUL Physically Destroying Patriot Act!

GeoLaureate8
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5/24/2011 8:13:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Rand is filibustering the Patriot Act!!!

"For the past seven hours, Senator Paul has been holding the Senate floor, keeping Reid and his allies from rushing this bill through the Senate without debate or amendments."

http://dailypaul.com...
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Phoenix_Reaper
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5/24/2011 8:15:36 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Mother of nothingness. XD
Phoenix Reaper - To rise from the ashes of defeat and claim your soul.

: At 3/15/2011 4:23:07 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
: Taste is for pussïes. Be a nihilist. Drink vodka.
GeoLaureate8
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5/24/2011 8:29:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
"A combination of the Senate's arcane rules and Sen. Rand Paul's (R-Ky.) insistence on voting on several controversial amendments may cause the Patriot Act to lapse at the end of the week.

The expiration of the law before the passage of an extension would create an upheaval in the law enforcement community which relies on its authority to track suspected terrorists."

http://thehill.com...
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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5/24/2011 8:40:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 8:29:00 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"A combination of the Senate's arcane rules and Sen. Rand Paul's (R-Ky.) insistence on voting on several controversial amendments may cause the Patriot Act to lapse at the end of the week.

The expiration of the law before the passage of an extension would create an upheaval in the law enforcement community which relies on its authority to track suspected terrorists."

http://thehill.com...

If that happens, I think I might have to do some partying.
GeoLaureate8
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5/24/2011 9:11:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 8:40:24 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 5/24/2011 8:29:00 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"A combination of the Senate's arcane rules and Sen. Rand Paul's (R-Ky.) insistence on voting on several controversial amendments may cause the Patriot Act to lapse at the end of the week.

The expiration of the law before the passage of an extension would create an upheaval in the law enforcement community which relies on its authority to track suspected terrorists."

http://thehill.com...

If that happens, I think I might have to do some partying.

Likewise. I know I've got a lot of friends that will be celebrating upon hearing this news.

This is EPIC. Thanks Rand!
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
GeoLaureate8
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5/24/2011 9:34:37 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
http://www.politico.com...

http://www.salon.com...
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-- Frederic Bastiat
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5/24/2011 9:45:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
UPDATE:

"Reid had hoped to recess the Senate during the speech and count that toward the cloture clock, but Paul stayed on the Senate floor, kept the chamber open, and was able to stop the cloture clock."

http://www.politico.com...
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
GeoLaureate8
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5/24/2011 9:54:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Harry Reid forced by Rand Paul to KILL the bill.

"With very little time left on the clock to save the Patriot Act from expiring on Friday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid had to work some procedural gymnastics to get past Sen. Rand Paul's many objections (and amendments), as well as a number of members in his own party.

Sen. Reid basically killed his current bill and and opted to take up a House small business bill (it's in a form that's considered filibuster-proof as far as starting debate goes). Neither Rand Paul nor anyone else can object to this. Reid then amended the House bill with the entire text of the Patriot Act extension.

In doing so, Sen. Reid has essentially extended the Patriot Act although there are some steps that must still take place; it will be likely Thursday before a cloture vote can occur. It's unclear whether Reid can get to final passage in time, but these things have a way of working themselves out.

Even with the extension, it seems very likely the Patriot Act will expire for a very brief period of time. The House must take it up and pass it - and President Obama isn't even back until Saturday"

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com...
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
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Thaddeus
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5/25/2011 4:21:02 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/24/2011 8:22:36 PM, darkkermit wrote:
How does one even speak for seven hours anyway?

Its not that hard after the second hour, because at point no-one is listening so you might as well be saying "strawberry jam strawberry jam" over and over again.
GeoLaureate8
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5/25/2011 5:10:35 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
http://www.baltimoresun.com...

"Paul has offered several "controversial" amendments to the bill, and could single-handedly cause the Patriot Act to lapse for a day, The Hill reported today.

What are these so-called "controversial" changes to the post-9/11 act -- which expanded governmental search powers -- that Paul wants?

"Controversial" things like requiring the government seek a judge's approval before conducting a search of someone's credit cards, emails, library books, bank statements, and business records or conducting a "roving wiretap," and requiring the government to actually come up with probable cause before searching such records or executing such wiretaps.

Where did Paul get the notion for these "controversial" demands? The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

In Paul's view, you don't have to be a constitutional scholar to understand the above stanza. You just have to be able to read.

At the heart of the debate over the Patriot Act is a conflict between liberty and security. How much freedom from government searches should we give up to make sure we aren't victims of another terrorist attack?

On the Senate floor, Paul argued that's a false dichotomy and searching records without probable cause could actually make us less safe, as it wastes time from legitimate suspects.

"You can be opposed to terrorists ... but we can do it with a process that protects the innocent," Paul said."
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat