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6/11/2011 7:48:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
"A website which has collected over 72,000 votes from people in countries all over the world has revealed that the vast majority would elect Ron Paul if they had the opportunity to influence the 2008 US election.

At time of writing, the site at www.whowouldtheworldelect.com/ has collected 72,556 votes from people in countries across the world, from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe and everywhere in between.

The results reveal that the overwhelming favourite candidate in almost every corner of the globe is Congressman Ron Paul.

Here is a list of countries Ron Paul wins the most votes in according to the site:

Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andora; Barbuda, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bermuda; Brazil, Cambodia, Canada, Cayman Islands, Columbia, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Estonia, Fiji, Finland, French Polynesia, Germany, Gibraltar, Guam, Guatemala, Guyana, Hungary, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Korea, Latvia, Lebanon, Liechtenstein, Luxemburg, Malaysia, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Micronesia, Moldova, Monaco, Namibia, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Occupied Palestinian Territory, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, The Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Samoa, San Marino, Senegal, Serbia, Seychelles, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, Slovenia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Taiwan, Thailand, Togo, Tunisia, Ukraine, UK, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Vietnam, The Virgin Islands, Wallis and Futuna Islands, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe."

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6/11/2011 8:15:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Online polls tend to have a huge selective bias.

And, how the hell does the world even know about Ron Paul. I can hardly name any foreign politicians.
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6/11/2011 8:16:53 PM
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At 6/11/2011 8:15:01 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Online polls tend to have a huge selective bias.

And, how the hell does the world even know about Ron Paul. I can hardly name any foreign politicians.

Foreign politics doesn't affect you--American politics and policy affects the whole world.
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6/11/2011 8:20:08 PM
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At 6/11/2011 8:16:53 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:15:01 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Online polls tend to have a huge selective bias.

And, how the hell does the world even know about Ron Paul. I can hardly name any foreign politicians.

Foreign politics doesn't affect you--American politics and policy affects the whole world.

Do American politics really make that big of a difference in the world? Why? America is just one of over 200 nations.
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6/11/2011 8:22:02 PM
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At 6/11/2011 8:20:08 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:16:53 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:15:01 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Online polls tend to have a huge selective bias.

And, how the hell does the world even know about Ron Paul. I can hardly name any foreign politicians.

Foreign politics doesn't affect you--American politics and policy affects the whole world.

Do American politics really make that big of a difference in the world? Why? America is just one of over 200 nations.

We buy and sell a lot of stuff all over the world, making many other economies dependent on ours. And we intervene in lots of other countries with foreign aid and military action.
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: At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
: i didn't like [Obama]. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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6/11/2011 8:25:52 PM
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At 6/11/2011 8:22:02 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:20:08 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:16:53 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:15:01 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Online polls tend to have a huge selective bias.

And, how the hell does the world even know about Ron Paul. I can hardly name any foreign politicians.

Foreign politics doesn't affect you--American politics and policy affects the whole world.

Do American politics really make that big of a difference in the world? Why? America is just one of over 200 nations.

We buy and sell a lot of stuff all over the world, making many other economies dependent on ours. And we intervene in lots of other countries with foreign aid and military action.

Well, I don't know any of the politicians, besides the Queen of England, in the European Union, even though they have extraordinary influence.
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6/11/2011 8:26:58 PM
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At 6/11/2011 8:20:08 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Do American politics really make that big of a difference in the world? Why? America is just one of over 200 nations.

America is like a celebrity amongst other countries. They're all watching what we do. Plus, our entertainment industry is probably the most globalized out of any other country. Our artists tour the globe, foreign artists, well, we hardly know any of them.
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6/11/2011 10:33:53 PM
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At 6/11/2011 7:48:30 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"A website which has collected over 72,000 votes from people in countries all over the world has revealed that the vast majority would elect Ron Paul if they had the opportunity to influence the 2008 US election.

At time of writing, the site at www.whowouldtheworldelect.com/ has collected 72,556 votes from people in countries across the world, from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe and everywhere in between.

The results reveal that the overwhelming favourite candidate in almost every corner of the globe is Congressman Ron Paul.

Here is a list of countries Ron Paul wins the most votes in according to the site:

Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andora; Barbuda, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bermuda, Brainmaster, Brazil, Cambodia, Canada, Cayman Islands, Columbia, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Estonia, Fiji, Finland, French Polynesia, Germany, Gibraltar, Guam, Guatemala, Guyana, Hungary, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Korea, Latvia, Lebanon, Liechtenstein, Luxemburg, Malaysia, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Micronesia, Moldova, Monaco, Namibia, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Occupied Palestinian Territory, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, The Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Samoa, San Marino, Senegal, Serbia, Seychelles, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, Slovenia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Taiwan, Thailand, Togo, Tunisia, Ukraine, UK, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Vietnam, The Virgin Islands, Wallis and Futuna Islands, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe."

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6/12/2011 7:26:59 AM
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At 6/11/2011 8:20:08 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Do American politics really make that big of a difference in the world? Why? America is just one of over 200 nations.

Treaties and economy. Both of which can have fairly important flow on effects.
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6/12/2011 8:20:15 AM
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I'd like to note that there vote is only representative of ~1/944000th of the population.
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6/12/2011 9:40:41 AM
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At 6/11/2011 7:48:30 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
"A website which has collected over 72,000 votes from people in countries all over the world has revealed that the vast majority would elect Ron Paul if they had the opportunity to influence the 2008 US election.

At time of writing, the site at www.whowouldtheworldelect.com/ has collected 72,556 votes from people in countries across the world, from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe and everywhere in between.

The results reveal that the overwhelming favourite candidate in almost every corner of the globe is Congressman Ron Paul.

Here is a list of countries Ron Paul wins the most votes in according to the site:

Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Andora; Barbuda, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bermuda; Brazil, Cambodia, Canada, Cayman Islands, Columbia, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cuba, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, Estonia, Fiji, Finland, French Polynesia, Germany, Gibraltar, Guam, Guatemala, Guyana, Hungary, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Korea, Latvia, Lebanon, Liechtenstein, Luxemburg, Malaysia, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Micronesia, Moldova, Monaco, Namibia, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Occupied Palestinian Territory, Pakistan, Panama, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay, The Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Samoa, San Marino, Senegal, Serbia, Seychelles, Saudi Arabia, Sierra Leone, Slovenia, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Sweden, Switzerland, Syria, Taiwan, Thailand, Togo, Tunisia, Ukraine, UK, Uruguay, Uzbekistan, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Vietnam, The Virgin Islands, Wallis and Futuna Islands, Yemen, Zambia, Zimbabwe."

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I love how the United States isn't on this list... Haha. Either way, 72,000 isn't really that big compared to 7 billion people on earth. This is an interesting poll, but there could be bias in this...
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6/12/2011 10:47:16 AM
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At 6/11/2011 8:15:01 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Online polls tend to have a huge selective bias.

This. Also, even if Paul were elected, why does everyone keep ignoring the fact that we have 2 other branches of government that would severely inhibit his policies anyway?
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6/12/2011 10:51:53 AM
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Massive sampling bias is all I'm saying...

Switzerland would elect Ron Paul? I haven't met a single countryman of mine who even knew the nam Ron Paul, unless they knew it from me.
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6/12/2011 11:08:02 AM
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At 6/12/2011 10:47:16 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:15:01 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Online polls tend to have a huge selective bias.

This. Also, even if Paul were elected, why does everyone keep ignoring the fact that we have 2 other branches of government that would severely inhibit his policies anyway?

It would be a start. Paul could at least end the wars in the Middle East, as the Commander in Chief. He would also have plenty of power over the various departments (Department of Education, Department of Energy, etc.) and could shut those down or appoint new secretaries to shut them down for him. The presidential veto power would be handy for stopping almost all legislation from Congress except those which he likes. Paul could also pardon those who were jailed unfairly, such as non-violent drug users.
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6/12/2011 11:10:06 AM
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At 6/12/2011 10:51:53 AM, Fabian_CH wrote:
Massive sampling bias is all I'm saying...

Switzerland would elect Ron Paul? I haven't met a single countryman of mine who even knew the nam Ron Paul, unless they knew it from me.

Not to mention Europeans love big government :P
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6/12/2011 11:14:56 AM
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It would be a start. Paul could at least end the wars in the Middle East, as the Commander in Chief. He would also have plenty of power over the various departments (Department of Education, Department of Energy, etc.) and could shut those down or appoint new secretaries to shut them down for him. The presidential veto power would be handy for stopping almost all legislation from Congress except those which he likes. Paul could also pardon those who were jailed unfairly, such as non-violent drug users.

Could =/= Would

I think it is very naive to assume that the entire departments of Education, Energy, etc. would suddenly be eradicated. That would take time and there would be a huge public outcry... HUGE. Especially for Education. State government would also inhibit a lot of his policies from being effective. Even if Paul were to veto laws he didn't like, they would just go right back to Congress where they would revise the bill... or just pass it anyway despite his veto.
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6/12/2011 11:17:54 AM
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At 6/12/2011 11:14:56 AM, Danielle wrote:
Paul could also pardon those who were jailed unfairly, such as non-violent drug users.

Also, as much as I would love this, presidential pardons only apply to federal laws. They could (and would) still be charged by the State.
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6/12/2011 12:14:01 PM
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At 6/12/2011 10:47:16 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:15:01 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Online polls tend to have a huge selective bias.

This. Also, even if Paul were elected, why does everyone keep ignoring the fact that we have 2 other branches of government that would severely inhibit his policies anyway?

Because the other two branches are becoming more and more irrelevant, you can stack the courts and congress can't even keep the president from running his own wars.
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6/12/2011 1:44:36 PM
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Moot is the most influential person in the world.
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6/12/2011 1:45:22 PM
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marblecake, also the game.
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6/12/2011 2:06:35 PM
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At 6/12/2011 11:14:56 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 6/12/2011 11:08:02 AM, mongeese wrote:
It would be a start. Paul could at least end the wars in the Middle East, as the Commander in Chief. He would also have plenty of power over the various departments (Department of Education, Department of Energy, etc.) and could shut those down or appoint new secretaries to shut them down for him. The presidential veto power would be handy for stopping almost all legislation from Congress except those which he likes. Paul could also pardon those who were jailed unfairly, such as non-violent drug users.

Could =/= Would

I think it is very naive to assume that the entire departments of Education, Energy, etc. would suddenly be eradicated. That would take time and there would be a huge public outcry... HUGE. Especially for Education.

It would take a while, but Paul has expressed a desire to close the Department of Education, and I don't think public outcry would be enough to stop him from doing what's right.

State government would also inhibit a lot of his policies from being effective.

Well, Paul is a major supporter of states' rights, so just a transfer of power from the federal to state governments would be a success. Not all states would continue the federal policies.

Even if Paul were to veto laws he didn't like, they would just go right back to Congress where they would revise the bill... or just pass it anyway despite his veto.

It would be difficult to revise a bill enough to get Paul to sign it if he doesn't like it. There are also few laws that 67% of Congress can actually agree on.
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6/12/2011 2:12:04 PM
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At 6/11/2011 8:25:52 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:22:02 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:20:08 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:16:53 PM, LaissezFaire wrote:
At 6/11/2011 8:15:01 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Online polls tend to have a huge selective bias.

And, how the hell does the world even know about Ron Paul. I can hardly name any foreign politicians.

Foreign politics doesn't affect you--American politics and policy affects the whole world.

Do American politics really make that big of a difference in the world? Why? America is just one of over 200 nations.

We buy and sell a lot of stuff all over the world, making many other economies dependent on ours. And we intervene in lots of other countries with foreign aid and military action.

Well, I don't know any of the politicians, besides the Queen of England, in the European Union, even though they have extraordinary influence.

She's not really a politician, and very much apart from the European Union.
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6/12/2011 10:08:18 PM
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lmao @ online poll validity.

Should have been dispelled when Moot was the 2009 Times most influential person based on the internet poll while the first letter of the remaining candidates names spelled out "you just lost the game the cake is a lie"
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6/12/2011 10:45:01 PM
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At 6/12/2011 10:08:18 PM, askbob wrote:
lmao @ online poll validity.

Should have been dispelled when Moot was the 2009 Times most influential person based on the internet poll while the first letter of the remaining candidates names spelled out "you just lost the game the cake is a lie"

That's a creative troll behind it, people. Learn a lesson from it.
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6/13/2011 2:20:24 AM
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Ron Paul had a good recognition in the last election as the only American candidate - who did not want American army in over 150 countries - whose names most American don't know.

Personally, I am not so interested in American presidential election (though I have fairly good awareness level for an Indian). What politicians say during campaign may have nothing to do with what they do when in government. Wasn't closing Guantanamo prisons one of the biggest promise by Obama?
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6/13/2011 12:11:09 PM
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Ron Paul had a good recognition in the last election as the only American candidate - who did not want American army in over 150 countries - whose names most American don't know.

Personally, I am not so interested in American presidential election (though I have fairly good awareness level for an Indian). What politicians say during campaign may have nothing to do with what they do when in government. Wasn't closing Guantanamo prisons one of the biggest promise by Obama?

Ron Paul has been in government for 40 years and has a consistent voting record to back up everything he preaches.

He voted against the Patriot Act when it was unpopular to do so.
He voted against the Iraq war when it was unpopular to do so.
He voted for legalizing marijuana when it was unpopular to do so.
Etc.

Don't ever compare Ron Paul to Obama or any other politician.
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6/13/2011 2:19:03 PM
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At 6/13/2011 12:11:09 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/13/2011 2:20:24 AM, baggins wrote:
Ron Paul had a good recognition in the last election as the only American candidate - who did not want American army in over 150 countries - whose names most American don't know.

Personally, I am not so interested in American presidential election (though I have fairly good awareness level for an Indian). What politicians say during campaign may have nothing to do with what they do when in government. Wasn't closing Guantanamo prisons one of the biggest promise by Obama?

Ron Paul has been in government for 40 years and has a consistent voting record to back up everything he preaches.

He voted against the Patriot Act when it was unpopular to do so.
He voted against the Iraq war when it was unpopular to do so.
He voted for legalizing marijuana when it was unpopular to do so.
Etc.

Don't ever compare Ron Paul to Obama or any other politician.

In that case, he is unlikely to be elected. I am not asking you to stop your effort. However this is the first reaction from a person who does not know much.
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6/13/2011 2:40:00 PM
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At 6/13/2011 12:11:09 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/13/2011 2:20:24 AM, baggins wrote:
Ron Paul had a good recognition in the last election as the only American candidate - who did not want American army in over 150 countries - whose names most American don't know.

Personally, I am not so interested in American presidential election (though I have fairly good awareness level for an Indian). What politicians say during campaign may have nothing to do with what they do when in government. Wasn't closing Guantanamo prisons one of the biggest promise by Obama?

Ron Paul has been in government for 40 years and has a consistent voting record to back up everything he preaches.

He voted against the Patriot Act when it was unpopular to do so.
He voted against the Iraq war when it was unpopular to do so.
He voted for legalizing marijuana when it was unpopular to do so.
Etc.

Don't ever compare Ron Paul to Obama or any other politician.

Voting records aren't everything. Shrimp subsidies ftl.
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