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Charles0103
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6/15/2011 4:08:54 PM
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Out of all the candidates that have announced that they are running in the Republican Party, who do you think will get the nomination? Who do you want to get the nomination? Who can beat Obama?
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6/15/2011 4:16:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/15/2011 4:12:17 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Mitt Romney. I think Cain and Bachaman have a shot as well.

Cain? Maybe. But Bachman? Seriously? She might get the nomination, but there's no way she could be Obama in the general election.
"And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened." Jesus in Luke 11:9-10
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6/15/2011 4:16:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/15/2011 4:16:39 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:12:17 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Mitt Romney. I think Cain and Bachaman have a shot as well.

Cain? Maybe. But Bachman? Seriously? She might get the nomination, but there's no way she could be Obama in the general election.

Meant "beat" not "be."
"And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened." Jesus in Luke 11:9-10
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6/15/2011 4:17:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
1) I think Mitt will get it.
2a) If I'm going for who I think will be the most fun to watch drivel, it would be Bachmann
2b) If I'm going for who I think best represts conservatism, it would be Paul.
3) With things the way they are now, I don't think any have a decent shot to win. Of course, there is a lot of time for things to change. The worse the economy does, the better for the republicans, the better it does, the worse for them.
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6/15/2011 4:19:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/15/2011 4:16:56 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:16:39 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:12:17 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Mitt Romney. I think Cain and Bachaman have a shot as well.

Cain? Maybe. But Bachman? Seriously? She might get the nomination, but there's no way she could be Obama in the general election.

Meant "beat" not "be."

Why don't you think Bachman has a chance in the general election? These are all guesstimates. It's not like I can predict the future. Besides, if the economy goes into a double dip recession in 2012, then Barack Obama would have no chance of getting re-elected no matter who the Republican nominee is.
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6/15/2011 4:21:36 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/15/2011 4:19:48 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:16:56 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:16:39 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:12:17 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Mitt Romney. I think Cain and Bachaman have a shot as well.

Cain? Maybe. But Bachman? Seriously? She might get the nomination, but there's no way she could be Obama in the general election.

Meant "beat" not "be."

Why don't you think Bachman has a chance in the general election? These are all guesstimates. It's not like I can predict the future. Besides, if the economy goes into a double dip recession in 2012, then Barack Obama would have no chance of getting re-elected no matter who the Republican nominee is.

I agree with you on the thing about the double dip election. Obama will hang on to the "Bush started it!" card, but that's not going to cut it. I mean, this is Michelle Bachman we're talking about. Sure, she's got the tea party support, but I highly doubt the independents or moderate republicans would vote for her.
"And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened." Jesus in Luke 11:9-10
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6/15/2011 4:22:17 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Romney will most likely get the nomination. Cain and bachmann will split the teaparty vote, so I dont think either woul get it. Rick Perry (if he got into the race) would change the entire dynamic. Paul wont get the nomination, regardless of the strange love of most on this site with him. In the general election, Romney has the best shot since he could easily win over the independent vote.
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6/15/2011 4:24:41 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:20:58 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
I'm rooting for Herman Cain

I am to. However, I think he might be too unknown. Plus, there hasn't been a president in US history who hasn't had any political experience. There have been some with little experience, but not no experience.
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6/15/2011 4:26:19 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:12:17 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Mitt Romney. I think Cain and Bachaman have a shot as well.

When did you fall away from the path of libertarianism? You used to be cool man. I believed in you.
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6/15/2011 4:32:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/15/2011 4:26:19 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:12:17 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Mitt Romney. I think Cain and Bachaman have a shot as well.

When did you fall away from the path of libertarianism? You used to be cool man. I believed in you.

Lulz. Yep, I'm no longer a libertarian. Sorry, If that makes me shunned by DDO now.
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6/15/2011 4:33:42 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Hes not liberal in my mind per se....since he articulates classic economic theory better than any politician out there. My problem with him is his complete ignorance to foreign policy and international relations.
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6/15/2011 4:34:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/15/2011 4:32:41 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:26:19 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:12:17 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Mitt Romney. I think Cain and Bachaman have a shot as well.

When did you fall away from the path of libertarianism? You used to be cool man. I believed in you.

Lulz. Yep, I'm no longer a libertarian. Sorry, If that makes me shunned by DDO now.

I see that you're already a moderate... Soon you will join us liberals! (I'm kidding)
"And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened." Jesus in Luke 11:9-10
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6/15/2011 4:34:38 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/15/2011 4:24:41 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:20:58 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
I'm rooting for Herman Cain

I am to. However, I think he might be too unknown. Plus, there hasn't been a president in US history who hasn't had any political experience. There have been some with little experience, but not no experience.

Herman Cain: Federal Reserve Chairman
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6/15/2011 4:35:05 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:33:42 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Hes not liberal in my mind per se....since he articulates classic economic theory better than any politician out there. My problem with him is his complete ignorance to foreign policy and international relations.

This. He thinks we can just ignore the problem by pulling troops out of every country around the world. I'm strongly pacifist, but you can't do that.
"And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened." Jesus in Luke 11:9-10
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6/15/2011 4:36:30 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:33:42 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Hes not liberal in my mind per se....since he articulates classic economic theory better than any politician out there. My problem with him is his complete ignorance to foreign policy and international relations.

That's what I meant. I like his economic stance, not so much his foreign policy or social issues. It seems like he want the U.S. to become isolationist.
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6/15/2011 4:37:49 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:35:05 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:33:42 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Hes not liberal in my mind per se....since he articulates classic economic theory better than any politician out there. My problem with him is his complete ignorance to foreign policy and international relations.

This. He thinks we can just ignore the problem by pulling troops out of every country around the world. I'm strongly pacifist, but you can't do that.

Why not? Can't think any country that has benefited from your troops being there. Wouldn't it be nice to not be the most hated nation on earth?
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6/15/2011 4:38:23 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:36:30 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:33:42 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Hes not liberal in my mind per se....since he articulates classic economic theory better than any politician out there. My problem with him is his complete ignorance to foreign policy and international relations.

That's what I meant. I like his economic stance, not so much his foreign policy or social issues. It seems like he want the U.S. to become isolationist.

I agree with this. Most of my hardcore Republican friends (yes, I have them) really hate his social and foreign policy views.
"And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened." Jesus in Luke 11:9-10
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6/15/2011 4:38:55 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:34:02 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:32:41 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:26:19 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:12:17 PM, darkkermit wrote:
Mitt Romney. I think Cain and Bachaman have a shot as well.

When did you fall away from the path of libertarianism? You used to be cool man. I believed in you.

Lulz. Yep, I'm no longer a libertarian. Sorry, If that makes me shunned by DDO now.

I see that you're already a moderate... Soon you will join us liberals! (I'm kidding)

If I get a major concussion that makes me economically illiterate, sure why not?
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6/15/2011 4:39:06 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Ron Paul is too Liberal? Get the fvck out.

He wants to cut taxes accross the board
Cut the Dept. Of Education
Abolish the IRS
Against government healthcare
Cut Social Security
Cut Medicare
Cut the Dept. of Energy
Cut all environmentalist programs

How the FVCK is that too LIBERAL?!??!???!?
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6/15/2011 4:40:08 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:39:06 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Ron Paul is too Liberal? Get the fvck out.

He wants to cut taxes accross the board
Cut the Dept. Of Education
Abolish the IRS
Against government healthcare
Cut Social Security
Cut Medicare
Cut the Dept. of Energy
Cut all environmentalist programs

How the FVCK is that too LIBERAL?!??!???!?

They think he's liberal because of his social views And maybe some foreign policy, but I see that as very conservative.
"And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened." Jesus in Luke 11:9-10
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6/15/2011 4:40:40 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/15/2011 4:39:06 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Ron Paul is too Liberal? Get the fvck out.

He wants to cut taxes accross the board
Cut the Dept. Of Education
Abolish the IRS
Against government healthcare
Cut Social Security
Cut Medicare
Cut the Dept. of Energy
Cut all environmentalist programs

How the FVCK is that too LIBERAL?!??!???!?

That's liberal to me. But then again, I'm British so liberalism is a good thing. =)
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6/15/2011 4:41:22 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:37:49 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:35:05 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:33:42 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Hes not liberal in my mind per se....since he articulates classic economic theory better than any politician out there. My problem with him is his complete ignorance to foreign policy and international relations.

This. He thinks we can just ignore the problem by pulling troops out of every country around the world. I'm strongly pacifist, but you can't do that.

Why not? Can't think any country that has benefited from your troops being there. Wouldn't it be nice to not be the most hated nation on earth?

I want to get our troops out ASAP, too. But I think you should listen to the generals and make a timetable depending on what's best for each individual country.
"And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened." Jesus in Luke 11:9-10
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6/15/2011 4:42:39 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:41:22 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:37:49 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:35:05 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:33:42 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Hes not liberal in my mind per se....since he articulates classic economic theory better than any politician out there. My problem with him is his complete ignorance to foreign policy and international relations.

This. He thinks we can just ignore the problem by pulling troops out of every country around the world. I'm strongly pacifist, but you can't do that.

Why not? Can't think any country that has benefited from your troops being there. Wouldn't it be nice to not be the most hated nation on earth?

I want to get our troops out ASAP, too. But I think you should listen to the generals and make a timetable depending on what's best for each individual country.

Easy.
My Timetable:

County x
Y number of troops
Best time to leave: Now

repeat for every country.
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6/15/2011 4:43:00 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:39:06 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Ron Paul is too Liberal? Get the fvck out.

He wants to cut taxes accross the board
Cut the Dept. Of Education
Abolish the IRS
Against government healthcare
Cut Social Security
Cut Medicare
Cut the Dept. of Energy
Cut all environmentalist programs

How the FVCK is that too LIBERAL?!??!???!?

Again I have few disagreements if any regarding Ron Paul's stances on the economy or federal spending.
I see problems with his stances regarding U.S. foreign policy and the way he thinks the U.S. should handle, or in Ron's case, not handle, it's threats and global and strategic interests abroad.
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6/15/2011 4:43:24 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:41:22 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:37:49 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:35:05 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:33:42 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Hes not liberal in my mind per se....since he articulates classic economic theory better than any politician out there. My problem with him is his complete ignorance to foreign policy and international relations.

This. He thinks we can just ignore the problem by pulling troops out of every country around the world. I'm strongly pacifist, but you can't do that.

Why not? Can't think any country that has benefited from your troops being there. Wouldn't it be nice to not be the most hated nation on earth?

I want to get our troops out ASAP, too. But I think you should listen to the generals and make a timetable depending on what's best for each individual country.

Cant think of any country that hasnt benefited? What? To name a few - South Korea, Japan, Central Asia. Hes stance of foreign policy is awful - he disregards globalization and "hotzone" areas around the world.
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6/15/2011 4:44:56 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:35:05 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:33:42 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Hes not liberal in my mind per se....since he articulates classic economic theory better than any politician out there. My problem with him is his complete ignorance to foreign policy and international relations.

He's not ignorant to foreign policy and international relations, he is the most knowledgable on the matter! Don't you see his debates? He schools everyone on foreign policy, no one else knows WTF is going on. Ron Paul knows that we borrow money from China then spend it on propping up dictators in other countries. What other candidates ever mention that? None.

This. He thinks we can just ignore the problem by pulling troops out of every country around the world. I'm strongly pacifist, but you can't do that.

WHY NOT?

You must provide a legitimate reason why Ron Pauls foreign policy wouldn't work. So far you're just making baseless assertions in an attempt to sound reasonable.
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6/15/2011 4:45:33 PM
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At 6/15/2011 4:37:49 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:35:05 PM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:33:42 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/15/2011 4:30:08 PM, quarterexchange wrote:
It may be a long shot, but I'm still voting for Cain. Ron Paul is too liberal for me.

Hes not liberal in my mind per se....since he articulates classic economic theory better than any politician out there. My problem with him is his complete ignorance to foreign policy and international relations.

This. He thinks we can just ignore the problem by pulling troops out of every country around the world. I'm strongly pacifist, but you can't do that.

Why not? Can't think any country that has benefited from your troops being there. Wouldn't it be nice to not be the most hated nation on earth?

Japan? By having us provide their "protection" they haven't needed to spend their own money on a defense budget, and so that has allowed more growth for their economy.

Anyway, we are not the most hated nation on earth.
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