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Do you know what Prison is like?

Rob1_Billion
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6/15/2011 9:46:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
http://www.viceland.com...

There is a difference between punishment and being subjected to sub-human conditions. It doesn't help anyone for this type of thing to be going on. The source is purely anecdotal, but even if he's exaggerating, it's probably not by a whole lot.
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darkkermit
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6/16/2011 4:05:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
poor rapist and murders :(. Although I am sympathetic to the drug users. And possibly thieves (if they were poor enough, and they stole from someone rich and corrupt).
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feverish
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6/16/2011 4:26:16 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I know what prison is like in England as both of my older brothers have served sentences and I've also worked in several prisons and young offender's institutions doing music workshops with inmates. I get the impession that it's a tad more extreme in America though.

A Louis Theroux documentary aired recently on the BBC showed conditions within a Miami "mega jail" and I think it's particularly despicable that people who are still awaiting trial in a justice system that supposedly renders people innocent till proven guilty are subject to such a lifestyle.

One of the most disturbing and unfortunate aspects of prison and jail is that it can be much harder on the milder criminals who have committed victimless crimes than on the hardened violent inmates, as it leads to a culture of the strong preying on the weak.

Here is a recent debate I did on punishment and rehabillitation, where my case was convincing enough that my opponent conceded the argument. http://www.debate.org...
Meatros
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6/16/2011 9:05:48 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/16/2011 4:26:16 AM, feverish wrote:
I know what prison is like in England as both of my older brothers have served sentences and I've also worked in several prisons and young offender's institutions doing music workshops with inmates. I get the impession that it's a tad more extreme in America though.

I've read a few books on prisons in america, most recently "Inside: Life Behind Bars in America", which was good, although overtly political.

What's prison like in England? Is it a 24-7 watch your back, trust no one, hope not to get raped type of affair?
CosmicAlfonzo
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6/16/2011 9:21:07 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I spent 2 months and a week in Cook County Jail.. Which isn't Prison, but is notorious for being one of the shittiest jails in the country.

It was kind of like this, but slightly different. In Cook County, there is no phone, you shower naked, and when people visit(only on special days) you do not get to be alone with them in person. You have to talk through a glass.

You eat bologna every day. Since I've been in jail, I will not eat bologna.

The second half of this song is a stupid poem I wrote while in jail, that pretty much describes how sh!t it is.

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6/16/2011 10:43:46 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/15/2011 9:46:46 PM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
http://www.viceland.com...

There is a difference between punishment and being subjected to sub-human conditions.
It is not suitable for humans to initiate force. Hence, subhuman is how I will look at those who do.

It's also not suitable to send drug offenders to prison, but that's any sort of prison, the degree is irrelevant.
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