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Man-is-good
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6/22/2011 6:54:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I would like a few fair assessments of the presidency of President Barack Obama.
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tvellalott
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6/22/2011 6:54:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/22/2011 6:54:08 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I would like a few fair assessments of the presidency of President Barack Obama.

I think he gives excellent speeches.
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6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
i didn't like him. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.
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edit: nah, i'm jealous... God's an eejit definitely though!
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6/22/2011 6:57:53 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/22/2011 6:57:23 PM, el-badgero wrote:
i didn't like him. he was the only black dude in moneygall yet he claimed to be home. obvious liar is obvious liar. i bet him and bin laden are bumfvcking right now.

don't like him even!
DATCMOTO's moustache makes him look like an eejit...

edit: nah, i'm jealous... God's an eejit definitely though!
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6/22/2011 6:59:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
and you couldn't trust him in a pub what with how easly he could camouflage pints of guiness he'd robbed. he could be drinking your pint the whole time and you'd think the head of it was his teeth and the rest just his own blackness.
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6/22/2011 7:02:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
and i'd say his speeches are written for him.
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edit: nah, i'm jealous... God's an eejit definitely though!
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6/22/2011 8:35:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I think he is a spineless puppet.

I dislike or disagree with most current politicians though. The government screwed us in 1886. America lost it's pure spirit ever since.

In the 1886 case Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad, 118 U.S. 394, the Supreme Court recognized that corporations were recognized as persons for purposes of the Fourteenth Amendment.

When that happened... We started walking a path that would lead to the destruction of what our nation was created to represent.

A corporation can't be punished as a person. It can't be held accountable as a person. It can't act as a person acts. Because corporations are not people. Yet corporations have the "rights" that people have in our constitution! We gave corporations far too much power. The funny thing is that was the very thing that our founding fathers never wanted to happen. Our nation was built on the born rights and freedoms of people! Not businesses and corporations!

We are becoming powerless slaves to the artificial entities that we call corporations.
tvellalott
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6/23/2011 1:56:34 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/22/2011 7:02:47 PM, el-badgero wrote:
and i'd say his speeches are written for him.

That doesn't detract from his ability to deliver them.
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6/23/2011 2:02:07 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/22/2011 6:54:08 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I would like a few fair assessments of the presidency of President Barack Obama.

Then you probs shouldn't ask people from here.
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Rockylightning
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6/23/2011 2:15:00 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Obama is a black, muslim, terrorist, homosexual, god hating, atheist, evolutionist, Middle-Eastern, mentally handicapped, totalitarian, socialist, nazi, spineless, liberal. And he's got a retarded dog.
Xer
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6/23/2011 2:21:50 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/23/2011 2:02:07 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 6/22/2011 6:54:08 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I would like a few fair assessments of the presidency of President Barack Obama.

Then you probs shouldn't ask people from here.

Approximately 87% of your posts on here nowadays are spent disparaging members of DDO, generally the libertarian sect.

You need a new shtick.
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6/23/2011 2:28:47 AM
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At 6/23/2011 2:21:50 AM, Nags wrote:
At 6/23/2011 2:02:07 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 6/22/2011 6:54:08 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I would like a few fair assessments of the presidency of President Barack Obama.

Then you probs shouldn't ask people from here.

Approximately 87% of your posts on here nowadays are spent disparaging members of DDO, generally the libertarian sect.

You need a new shtick.

And 99% of yours are cunty in general, including this one. So...are you the pot or the kettle?

Anyway tell me one person here who might give a fair assessment of Obama, and not just complain about the obvious. Maybe Freeman. Everyone here is a libertarian or anarchist. I'm betting that's not the kind of assessment he's looking for. Those criticisms are fair from those perspectives, but don't take into consideration the (bullshiit) nature of politics that we have to work with in general. I'll be surprised if we see anything positive. We'll probs just get Ron Paul spam.
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Xer
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6/23/2011 2:37:43 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/23/2011 2:28:47 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 6/23/2011 2:21:50 AM, Nags wrote:
At 6/23/2011 2:02:07 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 6/22/2011 6:54:08 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I would like a few fair assessments of the presidency of President Barack Obama.

Then you probs shouldn't ask people from here.

Approximately 87% of your posts on here nowadays are spent disparaging members of DDO, generally the libertarian sect.

You need a new shtick.

And 99% of yours are cunty in general, including this one. So...are you the pot or the kettle?

At 5/10/2011 9:53:26 AM, Danielle wrote:
At 5/10/2011 9:50:17 AM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
Danielle, to be frank this is because you and Vi attack the other side as being absurd, obviously if you call Nihilism/anarcho-capatilism delusional then you can not expect an even exchange.

As I just said, I have chosen to remove myself from the situation, because it's not pleasant or productive. Myself nor Vi are like that in ANY other discussion outside of DDO, so clearly it's not good for us.

Anyway tell me one person here who might give a fair assessment of Obama, and not just complain about the obvious.

Fair, obvious? What's that supposed to mean?

Maybe Freeman.

He's an an-cap now so you probably don't like him anymore.

Everyone here is a libertarian or anarchist.

Wrong.

I'm betting that's not the kind of assessment he's looking for.

Oh, so you read his mind and came upon the conclusion that he's specifically not looking for opinions from libertarians or anarchists? Interesting.

Those criticisms are fair from those perspectives

Again with the word fair. What's fair to you? Do assessments have to say Obama is somewhat good and somewhat bad? If the assessments are entirely critical, it's unfair?

but don't take into consideration the (bullshiit) nature of politics that we have to work with in general.

So you're predicting what libertarian/anarchists posters will not take into account when assessing Obama? Oh, okay.

I'll be surprised if we see anything positive.

Me too, as Obama hasn't done anything positive.

We'll probs just get Ron Paul spam.

Yeah, probably. Because all the libertarians and anarchists do on this site is spam Ron Paul, obviously. Refer to Cliff's post above.
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6/23/2011 10:04:06 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/22/2011 6:54:08 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I would like a few fair assessments of the presidency of President Barack Obama.

I like him. He's not Bill Clinton or FDR, but he was good. He tried his best, and the economy is slowly but surely turning around. A government option in healthcare was also really good (depending on your point of view). Overall, he did a good job.
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6/23/2011 11:22:36 AM
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At 6/23/2011 10:21:07 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Obama did a good job, IF the Supreme Court doesn't shoot down the health care bill. They will.

If they were going to say it's unconstitutional, wouldn't they have done so by now?
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6/23/2011 11:30:06 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/23/2011 11:22:36 AM, Charles0103 wrote:
At 6/23/2011 10:21:07 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Obama did a good job, IF the Supreme Court doesn't shoot down the health care bill. They will.

If they were going to say it's unconstitutional, wouldn't they have done so by now?

No, they'll delay it out as long as they can. Courts typically do this. Look at Arizona's immagration law. They waited until the last moment to make their decision, even though they probably had their minds made up by the first day.
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6/23/2011 11:48:49 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/22/2011 6:54:51 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 6/22/2011 6:54:08 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I would like a few fair assessments of the presidency of President Barack Obama.

I think he gives excellent speeches.

And that's really all that's good I can say about him.

For a more serious response, he wasn't a very good President. I still find it rather infuriating that conservatives cannot criticize him without receiving claims of racism, while liberals can attack and pillory Bush until the sun goes down.

Looking forward to Nobama 2012.
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6/26/2011 11:21:47 PM
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At 6/23/2011 2:15:00 AM, Rockylightning wrote:
Obama is a black, muslim, terrorist, homosexual, god hating, atheist, evolutionist, Middle-Eastern, mentally handicapped, totalitarian, socialist, nazi, spineless, liberal. And he's got a retarded dog.

But do you like him??...lol
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6/27/2011 11:40:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I think Brain is the only pure troll we have on DDO. Other people do it occasionally but at least have some flashes of intellect.

On the Court, they usually take their time on these types of things (unless it's a time-sensitive issue, like the 2000 election) to be able to say that they're researching and working on it. As if Anton Scalia is studiously trying to determine right now whether the Constitution really allows for Obamacare to exist... It's funny, actually, that most likely 6 of the justices made up their minds two years ago whether it should be allowed to pass and the entire system hangs on the opinion of one justice, who could easily make an argument either way for it. It's just... silly.
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6/27/2011 11:53:23 AM
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I am okay with him on the grounds that the other option was McCain. He was worse than anticipated, though. It seems like the most unacceptable parts of the healthcare bill were the only ones that got through and he escalated rather than limited military conflict. Otherwise he pretty much did what was expected. I obviously think he is taking the country in the wrong direction by increasing government power but it's nothing that no one else would have done.

I don't know if Mitt Romney would be an improvement, but I'm leaning hard toward "No."
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6/27/2011 12:36:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Mitt Romney would be the perfect way to make the change and not make the change. Speaking of "change," I'm trying to figure out how Obama's campaing slogan was justified by his actions this term, aside from the possibly-not-dead healthcare bill.
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6/27/2011 7:58:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
A continuation of the historically terrible and just downright embarrassing Presidency of the moron who preceded him. His speeches aren't as terrible and embarrassing, but that's about it. Everything he did with the economy was an epic failure, and his foreign policy was actually worse than I expected (though most politicians are liars, his foreign policy is literally antithetical to the one he campaigned on).

Unfulfilled promises, empty rhetoric, and blatant hypocrisy. What else is new, it's the same old bull$#*!.

America needs a kick@$$ President in 2012, now more than ever.
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6/27/2011 8:15:56 PM
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Looks like most people only give him props for a shaky, partial, socialist healthcare bill that may get thrown out due to commerce clause abuse.

That could be disastrous if there is no real economic recovery in 2012, not the pseudo recovery that is only seen in mantras.
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6/27/2011 8:18:32 PM
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At 6/22/2011 6:54:51 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 6/22/2011 6:54:08 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I would like a few fair assessments of the presidency of President Barack Obama.

I think he gives excellent speeches.

He won dah nobel prize so he is peaceful
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6/27/2011 8:37:05 PM
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At 6/27/2011 11:05:27 AM, Brainmaster wrote:
He was a nigga

And you're trolling in this debate.
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6/27/2011 11:38:36 PM
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He a gutless, lying, dangerous politician. He is very intelligent, which is what makes him so dangerous. Honestly, I can't figure out his main objective. I don't think it's money, which is a very scary proposition. In that case, either it is purely ego, or he has a very underhanded and extremely detrimental second term upcoming. The GOP has no better alternative, or at least not one that is electable. Ron Paul has a grasp on our problems, but in spite of him winning almost every straw poll in which he is a part, the mainstream will not accept his conservative principles. We live in a time of great change, and by the looks of it, not in a good way.
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6/27/2011 11:40:41 PM
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At 6/22/2011 6:54:08 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I would like a few fair assessments of the presidency of President Barack Obama.

Without a doubt one of the worst Presidents we have had in American history. Even worse than Nixon or some other Presidents that everyone deems "low" on their scale.

I don't know why Obama ran. He thought he would end race problems in this country by running? Personally, I question his intelligence, because as we all notice, the Republicans try to block anything that he tries to pass.

Obama is an idiot for failing to see that Republicans are still racist and won't let his agenda go through.