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Hipsters Shouldn't Have Human Rights

CGBSpender
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6/23/2011 9:14:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
P1: The right to anything is the right to reject that thing.

P2: The most fundamental human rights are based on an implicit right to be regarded as human.

P3: Most humans regard themselves as human.

P4: (SC1) therefore Hipsters should not regard themselves as human.

P5: Hipsters are human.

P6: (SC2) therefore based on P1 they should be allowed not to consider themselves human

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6/23/2011 9:17:12 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
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6/23/2011 11:38:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/23/2011 9:14:33 PM, CGBSpender wrote:
P1: The right to anything is the right to reject that thing.

P2: The most fundamental human rights are based on an implicit right to be regarded as human.

P3: Most humans regard themselves as human.

P4: (SC1) therefore Hipsters should not regard themselves as human.

this lost logical coherence here at P4

P5: Hipsters are human.

P6: (SC2) therefore based on P1 they should be allowed not to consider themselves human

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6/24/2011 4:04:58 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
That made no sense and neither does the topic title. "Shouldn't have rights" is not clearly meaningful. "Don't have rights is."

Though you might be satisfied with this somewhat sloppy but still valid in plain English proof of a lesser proposition: "The rights of a hipster forbid nothing."

1. A right forbids nothing if it is waived by its holder. (Premise)
2. Not waiving one's rights rights is, like, popular dude. (Premise)
3. Hipsters don't do what's, like, popular dude. (Premise, definition of hipster)
4. Hipsters do not not waive their rights (2,3)
5. Hipsters waive their rights (4, double negative).
6. Hipster's rights forbid nothing ( Conclusion, 1,5)
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6/25/2011 8:21:39 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/23/2011 11:38:11 PM, Marauder wrote:
At 6/23/2011 9:14:33 PM, CGBSpender wrote:
P1: The right to anything is the right to reject that thing.

P2: The most fundamental human rights are based on an implicit right to be regarded as human.

P3: Most humans regard themselves as human.

P4: (SC1) therefore Hipsters should not regard themselves as human.

this lost logical coherence here at P4

P5: Hipsters are human.

P6: (SC2) therefore based on P1 they should be allowed not to consider themselves human

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Let me clarify what I mean by should and you will see the logical string:

P4: Hipsters (in order to be good hipsters must) not regard themselves as human.

-or-

P4: (ideal) Hipsters (by virtue of the fact that they are hipsters) should not regard themselves as human.

But I felt this was redundant and unnecessary.

This clarification makes the title more appropriate.

It is incorrect to say Hipsters don't have human rights because not all hipsters are good hipsters and so some will not waive their human rights, but all need their human rights in order to do away with them. Perhaps a more appropriate title would be "Good Hipsters Shouldn't have Human Rights". The reason I only have should is because I assumed a normative statement would make the inclusion of "good" unnecessary.
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6/25/2011 9:03:51 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
lul hipsters.

Odds are, if you are making fun of hipsters, you probably are one. No one thinks they are a hipster.

I made fun of hipsters before hipsters making fun of hipsters was cool.
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6/25/2011 9:52:26 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 9:03:51 AM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
I made fun of hipsters before hipsters making fun of hipsters was cool.

Haha I will remember that one. Yes, I am slowly coming to terms with the fact that I too may be a hipster. I am not quite there yet though haha.
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6/25/2011 1:34:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Is this a forum that askbob will have to deal with?
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