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Thank George W. Bush For Getting Osama

BillyJean
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6/30/2011 4:33:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
While it's true Obama signed the order that eventually killed Osama bin Laden, not enough credit is going to George W. Bush for what he did to get Osama. Not only did he deploy troops to Afghanistan to go get him, but he set a precedent of persistence to catch him once and for all. Furthermore, Obama hasn't changed one single defense policy from the Bush Era to now. Bush should get a lot more credit than he does for it.
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6/30/2011 5:13:12 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/30/2011 4:33:58 PM, BillyJean wrote:
While it's true Obama signed the order that eventually killed Osama bin Laden, not enough credit is going to George W. Bush for what he did to get Osama. Not only did he deploy troops to Afghanistan to go get him, but he set a precedent of persistence to catch him once and for all. Furthermore, Obama hasn't changed one single defense policy from the Bush Era to now. Bush should get a lot more credit than he does for it.:

Neither Bush nor Obama should get ANY credit for things they didn't do. The military and the intelligence agencies should get sole credit (not that it's much to give credit about to begin with).
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BennyW
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6/30/2011 5:53:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/30/2011 5:13:12 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 6/30/2011 4:33:58 PM, BillyJean wrote:
While it's true Obama signed the order that eventually killed Osama bin Laden, not enough credit is going to George W. Bush for what he did to get Osama. Not only did he deploy troops to Afghanistan to go get him, but he set a precedent of persistence to catch him once and for all. Furthermore, Obama hasn't changed one single defense policy from the Bush Era to now. Bush should get a lot more credit than he does for it.:

Neither Bush nor Obama should get ANY credit for things they didn't do. The military and the intelligence agencies should get sole credit (not that it's much to give credit about to begin with).

Exactly, that is what I have been trying to tell people.
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lewis20
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6/30/2011 6:07:38 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Ya the only thing Obama did was not end the search, that's the only credit he deserves.
I like how people say it was a good, or gutsy call to go give the mission a green light. The guy is at war with like 5 different countries, how at all was his decision a tough one?
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ApostateAbe
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6/30/2011 6:33:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/30/2011 6:07:38 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Ya the only thing Obama did was not end the search, that's the only credit he deserves.
I like how people say it was a good, or gutsy call to go give the mission a green light. The guy is at war with like 5 different countries, how at all was his decision a tough one?

Well, for one thing, it was a military invasion of a nation that the United States is not at war with, whose alliance and cooperation is essential for fighting a war in a neighboring state. Secondly, it was a high-risk operation. It didn't have to end with the death of Osama bin Laden--it could have ended with the deaths of an unrelated family trying to defend their home, it would look more like the Bay of Pigs fiasco, and it would have greatly compounded tensions with Pakistan. We have greater tensions with Pakistan now because of this despite the success of the operation.
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6/30/2011 6:50:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/30/2011 6:33:32 PM, ApostateAbe wrote:
At 6/30/2011 6:07:38 PM, lewis20 wrote:
Ya the only thing Obama did was not end the search, that's the only credit he deserves.
I like how people say it was a good, or gutsy call to go give the mission a green light. The guy is at war with like 5 different countries, how at all was his decision a tough one?

Well, for one thing, it was a military invasion of a nation that the United States is not at war with,

Afghanistan, Iraq,Yemen, LIbya etc.
You know the United States hasn't been at war with anyone since WWII right?

whose alliance and cooperation is essential for fighting a war in a neighboring state. Secondly, it was a high-risk operation. It didn't have to end with the death of Osama bin Laden--it could have ended with the deaths of an unrelated family trying to defend their home, it would look more like the Bay of Pigs fiasco,

Haha the operation wasn't high risk, you think we would have heard a word about it had the operation not run smoothly? It's not comparable in the least to the Bay of Pigs invasion.
There are plenty of instances where we were wrong and civilians got killed.
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6/30/2011 11:23:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/30/2011 5:13:12 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 6/30/2011 4:33:58 PM, BillyJean wrote:
While it's true Obama signed the order that eventually killed Osama bin Laden, not enough credit is going to George W. Bush for what he did to get Osama. Not only did he deploy troops to Afghanistan to go get him, but he set a precedent of persistence to catch him once and for all. Furthermore, Obama hasn't changed one single defense policy from the Bush Era to now. Bush should get a lot more credit than he does for it.:

Neither Bush nor Obama should get ANY credit for things they didn't do. The military and the intelligence agencies should get sole credit (not that it's much to give credit about to begin with).

Although I partly agree with you, that reply doesn't really make sense as BillyJean said Bush deserves praise for sending troops to Afghanistan. If Bush hadn't sent the troops over there, the military would never have caught him.
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jat93
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7/1/2011 1:20:58 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Neither of them deserve credit. Neither of them did squat. And let's face it, sure Osama's death was symbolic and all, but practically it didn't really do much good, and it was quite overrated. Plus what's the deal with us kinda storming into Pakistan without permission? Was that authorized? Whatevs, point is it was wayyyy overrated by the American public, but I don't necessarily blame then, and neither President deserves credit for something carried out entirely by brave soldiers in the military...