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Ore_Ele
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8/9/2011 4:51:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
http://www.livescience.com...

So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party. And that when people would thinking about the data, they were not using the reasoning part of their brain

Maybe we can classify political parties as a legal mental disorder, and require all voters (for the 3 months leading to a national vote) to take pills (that would still need to be invented) that would allow them to actually use the reasoning part of their brain when they think about who to vote for such.
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8/9/2011 4:59:19 PM
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So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party.:

Doesn't surprise me at all.
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Ore_Ele
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8/9/2011 5:03:11 PM
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At 8/9/2011 4:59:19 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party.:

Doesn't surprise me at all.

Maybe we should form PA, Politics Anonymous. Helping people deal with their political bias, one person at a time. Every member must start by overcoming their denial and say "I'm a [inster party here] and I'm politically bias!"
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8/10/2011 12:54:21 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/9/2011 4:51:28 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
http://www.livescience.com...

So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party. And that when people would thinking about the data, they were not using the reasoning part of their brain

Maybe we can classify political parties as a legal mental disorder, and require all voters (for the 3 months leading to a national vote) to take pills (that would still need to be invented) that would allow them to actually use the reasoning part of their brain when they think about who to vote for such.

Not to burst your bubble, but this just a study on confirmation bias which applies to all humans.
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8/10/2011 1:08:40 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/9/2011 4:59:19 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party.:

Doesn't surprise me at all.

That's because this applies to the vast majority of humans on the vast majority of their opinions on the vast majority of everything. Confirmation bias, cognitive dissonance, whatever you call it, it's a fundamental part of the way most normal human beings process every bit of information that relates to anything they hold an opinion on. But I think Orele was being somewhat facetious anyway. So to the to those studies I reply: no sh!t, sherlock.
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8/10/2011 2:33:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/9/2011 4:51:28 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
http://www.livescience.com...

So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party. And that when people would thinking about the data, they were not using the reasoning part of their brain

Maybe we can classify political parties as a legal mental disorder, and require all voters (for the 3 months leading to a national vote) to take pills (that would still need to be invented) that would allow them to actually use the reasoning part of their brain when they think about who to vote for such.

Or we could take George Washington's advise and forgo political parties all together. That way we vote for a candidate based on their views rather than party affiliation.
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8/10/2011 3:12:32 AM
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At 8/10/2011 2:33:45 AM, BennyW wrote:
At 8/9/2011 4:51:28 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:


So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party. And that when people would thinking about the data, they were not using the reasoning part of their brain

Maybe we can classify political parties as a legal mental disorder, and require all voters (for the 3 months leading to a national vote) to take pills (that would still need to be invented) that would allow them to actually use the reasoning part of their brain when they think about who to vote for such.

Or we could take George Washington's advise and forgo political parties all together. That way we vote for a candidate based on their views rather than party affiliation.

Or we forgo govmt all together.
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8/10/2011 12:31:23 PM
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At 8/10/2011 2:33:45 AM, BennyW wrote:
At 8/9/2011 4:51:28 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
http://www.livescience.com...

So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party. And that when people would thinking about the data, they were not using the reasoning part of their brain

Maybe we can classify political parties as a legal mental disorder, and require all voters (for the 3 months leading to a national vote) to take pills (that would still need to be invented) that would allow them to actually use the reasoning part of their brain when they think about who to vote for such.

Or we could take George Washington's advise and forgo political parties all together. That way we vote for a candidate based on their views rather than party affiliation.

The problem is that [most] people want to identify with the lowest common demoniator (e.g. political party). People don't want to spend the time to reseach everything and come to an unbias conclusion.
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Ore_Ele
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8/10/2011 12:33:06 PM
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At 8/10/2011 12:54:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/9/2011 4:51:28 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
http://www.livescience.com...

So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party. And that when people would thinking about the data, they were not using the reasoning part of their brain

Maybe we can classify political parties as a legal mental disorder, and require all voters (for the 3 months leading to a national vote) to take pills (that would still need to be invented) that would allow them to actually use the reasoning part of their brain when they think about who to vote for such.

Not to burst your bubble, but this just a study on confirmation bias which applies to all humans.

Yes, but it also ties it to a chemical reward system in people's brains that explain why it happens.
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8/10/2011 1:40:45 PM
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At 8/10/2011 12:33:06 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/10/2011 12:54:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/9/2011 4:51:28 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
http://www.livescience.com...

So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party. And that when people would thinking about the data, they were not using the reasoning part of their brain

Maybe we can classify political parties as a legal mental disorder, and require all voters (for the 3 months leading to a national vote) to take pills (that would still need to be invented) that would allow them to actually use the reasoning part of their brain when they think about who to vote for such.

Not to burst your bubble, but this just a study on confirmation bias which applies to all humans.

Yes, but it also ties it to a chemical reward system in people's brains that explain why it happens.

Correct. The dopamine system which "rewards" us in this way sort of like how we are "rewarded" when we make accurate predictions about the future. It confirms that your predictions about reality are correct. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
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8/10/2011 1:49:02 PM
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At 8/10/2011 1:40:45 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/10/2011 12:33:06 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/10/2011 12:54:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/9/2011 4:51:28 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
http://www.livescience.com...

So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party. And that when people would thinking about the data, they were not using the reasoning part of their brain

Maybe we can classify political parties as a legal mental disorder, and require all voters (for the 3 months leading to a national vote) to take pills (that would still need to be invented) that would allow them to actually use the reasoning part of their brain when they think about who to vote for such.

Not to burst your bubble, but this just a study on confirmation bias which applies to all humans.

Yes, but it also ties it to a chemical reward system in people's brains that explain why it happens.

Correct. The dopamine system which "rewards" us in this way sort of like how we are "rewarded" when we make accurate predictions about the future. It confirms that your predictions about reality are correct. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

But this goes beyond just dopamine, and shows an emotional responce to news that we are bias towards, rather than a rational responce. It also might be a first step towards actually fixing that kind of issue.
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Wnope
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8/10/2011 2:40:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/10/2011 1:49:02 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/10/2011 1:40:45 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/10/2011 12:33:06 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/10/2011 12:54:21 AM, Wnope wrote:
At 8/9/2011 4:51:28 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
http://www.livescience.com...

So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party. And that when people would thinking about the data, they were not using the reasoning part of their brain

Maybe we can classify political parties as a legal mental disorder, and require all voters (for the 3 months leading to a national vote) to take pills (that would still need to be invented) that would allow them to actually use the reasoning part of their brain when they think about who to vote for such.

Not to burst your bubble, but this just a study on confirmation bias which applies to all humans.

Yes, but it also ties it to a chemical reward system in people's brains that explain why it happens.

Correct. The dopamine system which "rewards" us in this way sort of like how we are "rewarded" when we make accurate predictions about the future. It confirms that your predictions about reality are correct. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

But this goes beyond just dopamine, and shows an emotional responce to news that we are bias towards, rather than a rational responce. It also might be a first step towards actually fixing that kind of issue.

The "emotional" response is confirmation bias. The dopamine system rewards confirmation bias.

It isn't nearly as groundbreaking as the article makes it seem.
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8/10/2011 5:46:44 PM
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At 8/9/2011 5:03:11 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/9/2011 4:59:19 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party.:

Doesn't surprise me at all.

Maybe we should form PA, Politics Anonymous. Helping people deal with their political bias, one person at a time. Every member must start by overcoming their denial and say "I'm a [inster party here] and I'm politically bias!":

They couldn't believe that we were unbiased and/or indifferent to politics. They might think it's actually an elaborate ploy by the opposing side. I find that people that are very, very passionate about politics cannot understand or believe that some people really don't give a sh*t.

Look at Charles. He can view the most innocuous thing as a prime example of the evils of capitalism and rightwing ideology. He's so indoctrinated that he can't think any other way, seems to me.
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8/10/2011 5:50:23 PM
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At 8/10/2011 5:46:44 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 8/9/2011 5:03:11 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/9/2011 4:59:19 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
So, it appears from studies (back in 2006) that "staunch party members from both sides" of the political isle get emotionally rewarded from dismissing negative data of their own party and get emotionally rewarded from focusing on negative data of the opposing party.:

Doesn't surprise me at all.

Maybe we should form PA, Politics Anonymous. Helping people deal with their political bias, one person at a time. Every member must start by overcoming their denial and say "I'm a [inster party here] and I'm politically bias!":

They couldn't believe that we were unbiased and/or indifferent to politics. They might think it's actually an elaborate ploy by the opposing side. I find that people that are very, very passionate about politics cannot understand or believe that some people really don't give a sh*t.

Look at Charles. He can view the most innocuous thing as a prime example of the evils of capitalism and rightwing ideology. He's so indoctrinated that he can't think any other way, seems to me.

That's the thing, denial is the first step.
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8/10/2011 8:49:29 PM
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Opinion: I've always felt that the competition of partisan politics is an inefficient way to manage a system. You can still have the same ideas, stances, and/or solutions to elements within a system without partisanship. There is no need for it. In my opinion, it would be best and most efficient to have one unified political representation managing the system. One unified political party. The labels seem to make people blind towards certain things in many ways. A follower of one party may not even give the voice of another party a chance, no matter how much sense it makes, just because of a group label. I'm sure most of you have experienced this. I know that I have.

I would support the unification of partisan politics into one party, but since this option does not seem to be relevant at this time in history... I must choose the lesser of the evils as I see it. My choice is to support the Green Party, as many of you already know.
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8/11/2011 1:48:23 PM
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Wnope is right, it is confirmation bias. We can then ask, "Why is confirmation bias so common?" I think humans are evolved to seek explanations. They want to explain things whether they have any relevant specific knowledge or not, and stick by explanations even when they fail miserably. On the whole, that is an evolutionary advantage because it means that humans can take advantage of repeating patterns that other species do not recognize.

People have always had theories about why it rains or why there is evil in the world. Religion used to be the main source of explanations for the unexplained, but now we have political ideologies. If you don't believe in the Devil as the source of all evil, you probably do believe George Bush is the source, or some other political ideology.

Some ideological beliefs are true. Scientists are really stuck on the Second Law of Thermodynamics, so much so that they reject out of hand that politicians are suppressing a secret invention that let's your car run on water. Scientists are now on the verge of giving up on conservation of energy in certain circumstances; the evidence seems undeniable. The measure of ideology is how readily you accept contrary evidence. Socialism has failed miserably in every form ever attempted, but in some people faith in socialism remains unabated. Few religious beliefs are so immune to proof.
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8/11/2011 8:30:04 PM
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At 8/10/2011 2:33:45 AM, BennyW wrote:

Or we could take George Washington's advise and forgo political parties all together. That way we vote for a candidate based on their views rather than party affiliation.

I wish this was reality.