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el-badgero
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8/20/2011 9:15:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
ron paul is illuminati and ye're all gonna get raped. called it.
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8/21/2011 8:18:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/20/2011 8:34:10 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Both hilarious and sad at the same time



Paul is appearing on The Daily Show sometime in mid September. It's going to boost his support like nothing else. Can't wait.
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8/21/2011 8:32:27 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
"Is the news media treating Ron Paul's presidential campaign unfairly?"

http://news.yahoo.com...

Ron Paul is not trying to get the nomination. Jon Stewart's statement, that Ron Paul is consistent with his principles, confirms that point. You can't win an election by being consistent with your principles, and you are even less likely to win it if your consistent principles have very little in common with the principles of the relevant voters. The news media covers the race, they prefer to focus on the winners, and Ron Paul's high mark in the Ames straw poll is like being in third place just ater the start of a boating race with a gaping hole in the keel. Ron Paul is on course to sink, long before the finish line, and he knows it.

That said, I hope he wins.
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8/21/2011 11:37:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/21/2011 8:18:24 PM, jat93 wrote:
At 8/20/2011 8:34:10 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Both hilarious and sad at the same time



Paul is appearing on The Daily Show sometime in mid September. It's going to boost his support like nothing else. Can't wait.

Is he ever going to do something about his speaking style? He's probably the only candidate I would dream of voting for but his old man/ simplistic speaking style annoys me to no end.
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8/21/2011 11:40:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/20/2011 8:34:10 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Both hilarious and sad at the same time

Sad is more like it. The media controls the public because the public does nothing other than watch the evening news to educate themselves.
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8/21/2011 11:53:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Last presidential election, I would have voted for him if he made it past the primaries.

The fact that Fox News ignores him just makes you want to vote for him even more, doesn't it?
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8/21/2011 11:58:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/21/2011 11:53:10 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Last presidential election, I would have voted for him if he made it past the primaries.


The fact that Fox News ignores him just makes you want to vote for him even more, doesn't it?

I thought the Illuminati has assassinated you?
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8/22/2011 12:02:37 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/21/2011 11:58:42 PM, Tim_Spin wrote:
At 8/21/2011 11:53:10 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Last presidential election, I would have voted for him if he made it past the primaries.


The fact that Fox News ignores him just makes you want to vote for him even more, doesn't it?

I thought the Illuminati has assassinated you?

I rose from the dead 3 days later.

Give me all your money, and pray to my image for good luck. It's a way of life.
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8/22/2011 3:21:36 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/21/2011 8:32:27 PM, ApostateAbe wrote:
"Is the news media treating Ron Paul's presidential campaign unfairly?"

http://news.yahoo.com...

Ron Paul is not trying to get the nomination. Jon Stewart's statement, that Ron Paul is consistent with his principles, confirms that point. You can't win an election by being consistent with your principles, and you are even less likely to win it if your consistent principles have very little in common with the principles of the relevant voters. The news media covers the race, they prefer to focus on the winners, and Ron Paul's high mark in the Ames straw poll is like being in third place just ater the start of a boating race with a gaping hole in the keel. Ron Paul is on course to sink, long before the finish line, and he knows it.

That said, I hope he wins.

Very very true. For this reason the republicans will most end up with Mitt, and that's just sad. This is why i hate political parties and believe they are the force that creates a corrupting influence to a politician's principles. At some point we create a populist, which is just a wind sock for a leader.
GeoLaureate8
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8/22/2011 4:01:29 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/20/2011 9:15:16 PM, el-badgero wrote:
ron paul is illuminati

False. Ron Paul is anti-Illuminati.

"I suspect they're moving in the direction of a New World Order and I hear and I've heard Obama recently use that term again. They got to have a New World Order and they've been working on that for a long time. And I'm sure they're not worried all that much about a crisis coming and they might look at it as an opportunity for promoting their cause and that's what we should be concerned about."
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8/22/2011 11:00:39 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 5:11:38 AM, Kinesis wrote:
That quote is nowhere on the internet.

Except on another message board that Geo put it on.
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8/22/2011 11:07:08 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I do think that it is comical that John Stuwart thinks the media is completely ignoring Ron Paul, but he isn't going to have him on his show for another month.

Huckabee has made addresses as to why Ron Paul isn't viewed as a real contender. While I don't care for Huckabee's thinking capabilities, I haven't heard his explination addressed before.

All the people that would vote for Ron are already backing him. Meaning as other candidates are dropping from the race, all their supporters are going to go to someone other than Ron. He now has something like 9% according to RCP and has remained fairly flat lined. While 9% in a field of 8 isn't that bad, when the field dwindles down to 3, he'll still have only 9%.

We can see that as candidates make splashes (damned media buzzword getting into my head) and dry up, support for them moves around, but Paul doesn't see any real flux in his support. None of his supporters leave him for the fresh new face, and no supporters join him when that new face gets old.
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GeoLaureate8
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8/22/2011 12:10:38 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 5:11:38 AM, Kinesis wrote:
That quote is nowhere on the internet.

That's because I was the first and only person to record it. He said it in an Alex Jones interview, go look it up.
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8/22/2011 12:34:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 12:10:38 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 8/22/2011 5:11:38 AM, Kinesis wrote:
That quote is nowhere on the internet.

That's because I was the first and only person to record it. He said it in an Alex Jones interview, go look it up.

Can you provide more direction than "in an Alex Jones interview," like a link to the video and a time stamp? Really, by any stretch of logic, it isn't on us to provide your sources.
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Danielle
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8/22/2011 12:41:40 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 12:10:38 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 8/22/2011 5:11:38 AM, Kinesis wrote:
That quote is nowhere on the internet.

That's because I was the first and only person to record it. He said it in an Alex Jones interview, go look it up.

I think you should look it up since you're apparently the first and only person to ever record it... Maybe you were the first and only person ever to hear it? I wouldn't know where to look. Appease us.

In any case, Kinesis is totally right: it's ambiguous at best.

Anyhow I <3 J.S. and going on his show will be awesome for Paul.
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GeoLaureate8
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8/22/2011 12:49:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'm on my iPod touch. I really can't go on YouTube right now and start rumaging through videos to find that part of the video, plus I can't post links with my iPod touch.

Anyways, I find it peculiar that you guys would doubt that Ron Paul said that given his views and image of being the conspiracy theorists champion. Is it really that hard to believe? I shouldn't have to go to great lengths to provide evidence to a rather mundane and expected quote from Ron Paul. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This ain't extraordinary. It's quite ordinary.
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8/22/2011 12:58:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/21/2011 8:32:27 PM, ApostateAbe wrote:
"Is the news media treating Ron Paul's presidential campaign unfairly?"

http://news.yahoo.com...

Ron Paul is not trying to get the nomination. Jon Stewart's statement, that Ron Paul is consistent with his principles, confirms that point. You can't win an election by being consistent with your principles, and you are even less likely to win it if your consistent principles have very little in common with the principles of the relevant voters. The news media covers the race, they prefer to focus on the winners, and Ron Paul's high mark in the Ames straw poll is like being in third place just ater the start of a boating race with a gaping hole in the keel. Ron Paul is on course to sink, long before the finish line, and he knows it.

That said, I hope he wins.

Hos is Ron Paul not trying to win? He has decided not to run for congress to focus all his efforts on the Presidential race. Maybe he won't win but that is a separate matter from him trying to win.
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8/22/2011 1:23:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 12:58:43 PM, BennyW wrote:
At 8/21/2011 8:32:27 PM, ApostateAbe wrote:
"Is the news media treating Ron Paul's presidential campaign unfairly?"

http://news.yahoo.com...

Ron Paul is not trying to get the nomination. Jon Stewart's statement, that Ron Paul is consistent with his principles, confirms that point. You can't win an election by being consistent with your principles, and you are even less likely to win it if your consistent principles have very little in common with the principles of the relevant voters. The news media covers the race, they prefer to focus on the winners, and Ron Paul's high mark in the Ames straw poll is like being in third place just ater the start of a boating race with a gaping hole in the keel. Ron Paul is on course to sink, long before the finish line, and he knows it.

That said, I hope he wins.

Hos is Ron Paul not trying to win? He has decided not to run for congress to focus all his efforts on the Presidential race. Maybe he won't win but that is a separate matter from him trying to win.

He's not trying to "win" he's trying to make a point and get a view across.
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8/22/2011 4:49:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Anyways, I find it peculiar that you guys would doubt that Ron Paul said that given his views and image of being the conspiracy theorists champion. Is it really that hard to believe? I shouldn't have to go to great lengths to provide evidence to a rather mundane and expected quote from Ron Paul. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This ain't extraordinary. It's quite ordinary.:

The New World Order that Ron Paul loosely mentions is a euphamism that is vastly different than that of what Alex Jones' espouses. Ron Paul is talking about people who are endemic towards following the status quo. He's not talking about a cabal of shadowy leaders bent on world domination.
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8/23/2011 3:55:46 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Oh now I see. You guys are talking about the old guy who is the republican version of Kucinich, only isn't really a republican.
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8/23/2011 10:13:05 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 4:49:59 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Anyways, I find it peculiar that you guys would doubt that Ron Paul said that given his views and image of being the conspiracy theorists champion. Is it really that hard to believe? I shouldn't have to go to great lengths to provide evidence to a rather mundane and expected quote from Ron Paul. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. This ain't extraordinary. It's quite ordinary.:

The New World Order that Ron Paul loosely mentions is a euphamism that is vastly different than that of what Alex Jones' espouses. Ron Paul is talking about people who are endemic towards following the status quo. He's not talking about a cabal of shadowy leaders bent on world domination.

you hope.
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8/24/2011 9:44:58 AM
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The Ames straw poll is not a random sample of Republicans, it's a measure of the people who take the trouble to travel to Ames to vote. Ron Paul's supporters are the most fervent, so they show up. In polls of all likely Republican voters, he is in single digits. That's why most pundits believe he can't win the nomination.

Paul appears frequently on Fox News, ad even more often on Fox Business. Fox has a libertarian contingent, including Stossel and Napolitano, who are eager to cite him, although mainly on fiscal issues. Hannity has Ron Paul on frequently.

I think Paul is rarely pressed on hard issues. For example, Paul seems perfectly willing to let Iran and North Korea have nuclear weapons, saying that it's none of our business. He said we should have let Saddam have nukes, poison gas, and biological weapons -- no need to worry until they are used against us. Does he believe in a free market for nuclear arms? If not, what should the US do about it? There are about 40 countries that are capable of building nukes. Does he worry about proliferation if the US steps out of the picture? I think he is pitched only high level questions where he can give ideological theory as an answer, without any follow up.
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8/24/2011 9:50:42 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/24/2011 9:44:58 AM, RoyLatham wrote:
The Ames straw poll is not a random sample of Republicans, it's a measure of the people who take the trouble to travel to Ames to vote. Ron Paul's supporters are the most fervent, so they show up. In polls of all likely Republican voters, he is in single digits. That's why most pundits believe he can't win the nomination.

Paul appears frequently on Fox News, ad even more often on Fox Business. Fox has a libertarian contingent, including Stossel and Napolitano, who are eager to cite him, although mainly on fiscal issues. Hannity has Ron Paul on frequently.

I think Paul is rarely pressed on hard issues. For example, Paul seems perfectly willing to let Iran and North Korea have nuclear weapons, saying that it's none of our business. He said we should have let Saddam have nukes, poison gas, and biological weapons -- no need to worry until they are used against us. Does he believe in a free market for nuclear arms? If not, what should the US do about it? There are about 40 countries that are capable of building nukes. Does he worry about proliferation if the US steps out of the picture? I think he is pitched only high level questions where he can give ideological theory as an answer, without any follow up.

Even If you do disagree with his policies, the fact that he hardly got mentioned is quite ridiculous. He should get his fair time. Fox Business news is not accessed as frequently as Fox News.

Also, do you think it's possible that perhaps the corporate media doesn't want Ron Paul to win? After all, just imagine how hard it would be for rent-seekers to occur If Ron Paul gets int officer. The best way to make sure Ron Paul doesn't win is not to mention him.
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8/24/2011 10:44:31 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/24/2011 9:44:58 AM, RoyLatham wrote:
The Ames straw poll is not a random sample of Republicans, it's a measure of the people who take the trouble to travel to Ames to vote. Ron Paul's supporters are the most fervent, so they show up. In polls of all likely Republican voters, he is in single digits. That's why most pundits believe he can't win the nomination.

Paul appears frequently on Fox News, ad even more often on Fox Business. Fox has a libertarian contingent, including Stossel and Napolitano, who are eager to cite him, although mainly on fiscal issues. Hannity has Ron Paul on frequently.

I think Paul is rarely pressed on hard issues. For example, Paul seems perfectly willing to let Iran and North Korea have nuclear weapons, saying that it's none of our business.

If Iran used a nuke on us, we could turn their entire country into glass. If you are retarded enough to use a nuke enough on the US you are so screwed it's not even funny.

He said we should have let Saddam have nukes, poison gas, and biological weapons -- no need to worry until they are used against us. Does he believe in a free market for nuclear arms? If not, what should the US do about it? There are about 40 countries that are capable of building nukes. Does he worry about proliferation if the US steps out of the picture? I think he is pitched only high level questions where he can give ideological theory as an answer, without any follow up.

See above.
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8/25/2011 3:02:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/25/2011 2:56:15 PM, medic0506 wrote:
Bill O'Reilly offered him an interview and so far he has refused, maybe he doesn't want alot of media appearances.

Or maybe he knows O'reilly will just misquote him and not give him an opportunity to defend himself.
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