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Lionheart
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8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this.
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8/22/2011 8:03:03 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this.

That would totally depend on the women.

Clinton is a Yes. Palin is a no.
mattrodstrom
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8/22/2011 10:37:03 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I think you're a bad idea :P
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

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000ike
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8/22/2011 10:41:51 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this

No difference, so long as shes more like Hilary Clinton and less like Michele Bachmann.
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
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8/22/2011 10:42:39 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 10:41:51 AM, 000ike wrote:
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this

No difference, so long as shes more like Hilary Clinton and less like Michele Bachmann.

Both suck pretty equally IMO
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8/22/2011 10:45:08 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 10:42:39 AM, PhilipFerreira wrote:
At 8/22/2011 10:41:51 AM, 000ike wrote:
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this

No difference, so long as shes more like Hilary Clinton and less like Michele Bachmann.

Both suck pretty equally IMO

Actually, Hilary didn't suck, that's what Bill's problem was.

jk
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8/22/2011 10:46:30 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this.

As long as the woman in question is white and isnt a minority, I personally see no problem with it.
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8/22/2011 10:47:40 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 10:46:30 AM, Joseph_Mengele wrote:
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this.

As long as the woman in question is white and isnt a minority, I personally see no problem with it.

lol... you're a dummy, dummy.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
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8/22/2011 10:48:11 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 10:46:30 AM, Joseph_Mengele wrote:
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this.

As long as the woman in question is white and isnt a minority, I personally see no problem with it.

Yes because the only qualification for public office should be race... thats not retarded at all.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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8/22/2011 10:48:21 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 10:47:28 AM, PhilipFerreira wrote:
At 8/22/2011 10:46:30 AM, Joseph_Mengele wrote:
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this.

As long as the woman in question is white and isnt a minority, I personally see no problem with it.

?

he's a neo-nazi who wants everyone to know he's a neo-nazi...

won't you join the party?
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
mattrodstrom
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8/22/2011 10:53:21 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 10:50:03 AM, PhilipFerreira wrote:
At 8/22/2011 10:48:21 AM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 8/22/2011 10:47:28 AM, PhilipFerreira wrote:
At 8/22/2011 10:46:30 AM, Joseph_Mengele wrote:
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this.

As long as the woman in question is white and isnt a minority, I personally see no problem with it.

?

he's a neo-nazi who wants everyone to know he's a neo-nazi...

won't you join the party?

oh so he kills a bunch of childre in a police uniform

no, no.. he'd prefer to do it in doctor's garb.
http://en.wikipedia.org...

Hello child killer
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
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8/22/2011 11:44:12 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 10:45:08 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/22/2011 10:42:39 AM, PhilipFerreira wrote:
At 8/22/2011 10:41:51 AM, 000ike wrote:
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this

No difference, so long as shes more like Hilary Clinton and less like Michele Bachmann.

Both suck pretty equally IMO

Actually, Hilary didn't suck, that's what Bill's problem was.

jk
LOL.

We(India) have a woman president
http://en.wikipedia.org...

Real power is supposed to lie with the Prime Minister, however this woman has all the power:
http://en.wikipedia.org...

Sonia Gandhi chose the hon'ble Pratibha Patil as president.

Some women make great politicians. Most are mediocre.
Kinesis
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8/22/2011 11:53:07 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 10:45:08 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Both suck pretty equally IMO

Actually, Hilary didn't suck, that's what Bill's problem was.

jk

Oooh, snap!
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8/22/2011 11:58:26 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 8:03:03 AM, curious18 wrote:
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this.

That would totally depend on the women.

Clinton is a Yes. Palin is a no.

I second that (even though it's nothing to do with me).
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mattrodstrom
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8/22/2011 12:08:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 11:58:26 AM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 8/22/2011 8:03:03 AM, curious18 wrote:
At 8/22/2011 5:26:53 AM, Lionheart wrote:
A good idea or a bad idea? Let's here some thoughts on this.

That would totally depend on the women.

Clinton is a Yes. Palin is a no.

I second that (even though it's nothing to do with me).

Brian.. you forget yourself.
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"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
000ike
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8/22/2011 12:24:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Bachmann is Palin in disguise. I hope she wins the GOP nomination. That way, Obama is secured an obvious win.
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
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8/22/2011 12:31:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 12:24:32 PM, 000ike wrote:
Bachmann is Palin in disguise. I hope she wins the GOP nomination. That way, Obama is secured an obvious win.

He already is ;)
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8/22/2011 1:01:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 12:31:47 PM, Danielle wrote:
At 8/22/2011 12:24:32 PM, 000ike wrote:
Bachmann is Palin in disguise. I hope she wins the GOP nomination. That way, Obama is secured an obvious win.

He already is ;)

How is e secured an obvious win? His poll numbers are so bad right now any of the front runners could beat him.
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It's pretty lazy to quote things you disagree with, call it stupid and move on, rather than arguing with the person. -000ike
000ike
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8/22/2011 1:05:13 PM
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At 8/22/2011 1:01:20 PM, BennyW wrote:
At 8/22/2011 12:31:47 PM, Danielle wrote:
At 8/22/2011 12:24:32 PM, 000ike wrote:
Bachmann is Palin in disguise. I hope she wins the GOP nomination. That way, Obama is secured an obvious win.

He already is ;)

How is e secured an obvious win? His poll numbers are so bad right now any of the front runners could beat him.

lol since when do polls actually mean anything in the outcome of an election? Most polls barely scrape half the population of voters.
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000ike
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8/22/2011 1:07:17 PM
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"During any election season, the question of how accurate the polls are comes up all the time. To start with, some of the pollsters are working for one of the parties and have a vested interested in making their candidates look good. Clearly, their results can't be trusted. But even for pollsters who are completely honest, there are genuine pitfalls. " (http://www.electoral-vote.com...)
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
BennyW
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8/22/2011 1:09:00 PM
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Women can't be presidents, unless they can run the country from the Witehouse kitchen.
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It's pretty lazy to quote things you disagree with, call it stupid and move on, rather than arguing with the person. -000ike
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8/22/2011 1:11:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 1:09:00 PM, BennyW wrote:
Women can't be presidents, unless they can run the country from the Witehouse kitchen.

Sorry I couldn't resist
You didn't build that-Obama
It's pretty lazy to quote things you disagree with, call it stupid and move on, rather than arguing with the person. -000ike
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8/22/2011 1:13:49 PM
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At 8/22/2011 1:07:17 PM, 000ike wrote:
"During any election season, the question of how accurate the polls are comes up all the time. To start with, some of the pollsters are working for one of the parties and have a vested interested in making their candidates look good. Clearly, their results can't be trusted. But even for pollsters who are completely honest, there are genuine pitfalls. " (http://www.electoral-vote.com...)

It is true polls can often be wrong, but it is pretty obvious that America is disappointing with Obama to say the least.
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It's pretty lazy to quote things you disagree with, call it stupid and move on, rather than arguing with the person. -000ike
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8/22/2011 1:21:54 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 1:01:20 PM, BennyW wrote:
At 8/22/2011 12:31:47 PM, Danielle wrote:
At 8/22/2011 12:24:32 PM, 000ike wrote:
Bachmann is Palin in disguise. I hope she wins the GOP nomination. That way, Obama is secured an obvious win.

He already is ;)

How is e secured an obvious win? His poll numbers are so bad right now any of the front runners could beat him.

I'd recommend double checking that.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com...

Currently, no "front runner" can beat him and only 1 is close (Romney is the only within 10 points of him).

Obama is only at a -7% disapproval (unless you get your numbers from Gallup or Rasmussen, which always favor republicans), compared to the congress which is at an all time low of -62%. America isn't pissed at Obama, it is pissed at congress, but the republicans and Rush will keep saying that they are mad at Obama, then be shocked when Obama wins again.
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000ike
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8/22/2011 1:28:36 PM
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Polls also don't account for the "hype factor." Once the boisterous few deem something good, the rest assume its goodness. When the same few deem something bad, the rest assume its badness. How many people with political opinions actually follow up with or understand politics? Once the few start saying "nope Obama is bad," the rest follow suit, when in actuality, if they took the time to find out what makes him "bad" they may just disagree.
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
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8/22/2011 1:29:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 1:28:36 PM, 000ike wrote:
Polls also don't account for the "hype factor." Once the boisterous few deem something good, the rest assume its goodness. When the same few deem something bad, the rest assume its badness. How many people with political opinions actually follow up with or understand politics? Once the few start saying "nope Obama is bad," the rest follow suit, when in actuality, if they took the time to find out what makes him "bad" they may just disagree.

This pattern is stereotypical to younger voters.
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
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8/22/2011 1:33:05 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/22/2011 1:21:54 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/22/2011 1:01:20 PM, BennyW wrote:
At 8/22/2011 12:31:47 PM, Danielle wrote:
At 8/22/2011 12:24:32 PM, 000ike wrote:
Bachmann is Palin in disguise. I hope she wins the GOP nomination. That way, Obama is secured an obvious win.

He already is ;)

How is e secured an obvious win? His poll numbers are so bad right now any of the front runners could beat him.

I'd recommend double checking that.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com...

Currently, no "front runner" can beat him and only 1 is close (Romney is the only within 10 points of him).

Obama is only at a -7% disapproval (unless you get your numbers from Gallup or Rasmussen, which always favor republicans), compared to the congress which is at an all time low of -62%. America isn't pissed at Obama, it is pissed at congress, but the republicans and Rush will keep saying that they are mad at Obama, then be shocked when Obama wins again.

All the other polls you list there except Fox News tend to favor Democrats so I don';t know how that could be trusted either.
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8/22/2011 1:39:14 PM
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At 8/22/2011 1:33:05 PM, BennyW wrote:
At 8/22/2011 1:21:54 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/22/2011 1:01:20 PM, BennyW wrote:
At 8/22/2011 12:31:47 PM, Danielle wrote:
At 8/22/2011 12:24:32 PM, 000ike wrote:
Bachmann is Palin in disguise. I hope she wins the GOP nomination. That way, Obama is secured an obvious win.

He already is ;)

How is e secured an obvious win? His poll numbers are so bad right now any of the front runners could beat him.

I'd recommend double checking that.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com...

Currently, no "front runner" can beat him and only 1 is close (Romney is the only within 10 points of him).

Obama is only at a -7% disapproval (unless you get your numbers from Gallup or Rasmussen, which always favor republicans), compared to the congress which is at an all time low of -62%. America isn't pissed at Obama, it is pissed at congress, but the republicans and Rush will keep saying that they are mad at Obama, then be shocked when Obama wins again.


All the other polls you list there except Fox News tend to favor Democrats so I don';t know how that could be trusted either.

The other polls were more inline with what was historically seen in the 2008 and 2010 elections. However, most polls will have some kind of bias, which is why RCP does an average between all polls.
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8/22/2011 1:47:28 PM
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At 8/22/2011 1:39:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/22/2011 1:33:05 PM, BennyW wrote:
At 8/22/2011 1:21:54 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/22/2011 1:01:20 PM, BennyW wrote:
At 8/22/2011 12:31:47 PM, Danielle wrote:
At 8/22/2011 12:24:32 PM, 000ike wrote:
Bachmann is Palin in disguise. I hope she wins the GOP nomination. That way, Obama is secured an obvious win.

He already is ;)

How is e secured an obvious win? His poll numbers are so bad right now any of the front runners could beat him.

I'd recommend double checking that.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com...

Currently, no "front runner" can beat him and only 1 is close (Romney is the only within 10 points of him).

Obama is only at a -7% disapproval (unless you get your numbers from Gallup or Rasmussen, which always favor republicans), compared to the congress which is at an all time low of -62%. America isn't pissed at Obama, it is pissed at congress, but the republicans and Rush will keep saying that they are mad at Obama, then be shocked when Obama wins again.


All the other polls you list there except Fox News tend to favor Democrats so I don';t know how that could be trusted either.

The other polls were more inline with what was historically seen in the 2008 and 2010 elections. However, most polls will have some kind of bias, which is why RCP does an average between all polls.

For example. Boxer won her seat by 9.8%, while SurveyUSA had her at an 8% lead, and Rasmussen had her at only 3%. Rasmussen said that Angles had a 4% lead pretty much the entire time (while others where showing a closer dead heat, giving an average of 2.7% to Angles). We see that Reid won. We see the same with Bennet in Colorado, Kitzhaber in Oregon (Rasmussen was the only poll to think Dudley would win), Brown in California (they missed his election by 7.4%, while SurveyUSA was only off 0.4%), the list goes on.
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