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Effect Of Recent Ron Paul Fema Statements?

jat93
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8/31/2011 3:46:14 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Ron Paul's been gaining a lot of momentum since Jon Stewart's piece on the media ignoring him a few weeks ago. I think there was definitely some liberal/moderate support coming his way. However, in the wake of Hurricane Irene, he recently made some statements regarding FEMA and in more than one case was explicitly open to abolishing it. I think this was just about the worst political move any politician could ever pull; no matter how justified it is, you don't advocate abolishing the fire departments in the middle of the fire. I know it's kind of a faulty analogy but my point is that this was an awful time for Paul to make that kind of statement, especially when one of his campaign's best features is the potential liberal/moderate support he could gain and has gained, for opposing the wars and opposing the war on drugs. Not to mention in a recent interview with Anderson Cooper, Paul seemed nervous and stuttered a lot (more than usual) so as an avid Ron Paul supporter I'm worried that the FEMA message + that presentation will negatively affect his campaign.

I've already heard a bunch of people saying that they generally like Paul but that abolishing FEMA was too much for them. I'm not arguing about whether or not it should be abolished... My question: Will this negatively affect his campaign?

It's noteworthy that the interview with Cooper had Paul coming across worse than he usually does; the Cavuto interview is 1000x better.
seraine
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8/31/2011 9:00:01 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/31/2011 3:46:14 AM, jat93 wrote:
My question: Will this negatively affect his campaign?

Probably, which is unfortunate. Especially the part where people are unwilling to look into the issue and objectively examine the facts before writing him off as a loon.
RoyLatham
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8/31/2011 5:30:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Libertarians seem to always want to lead with "legalize heroin," "abolish FEMA," "abolish the CIA," and "Iraq had a right to nuclear weapons." We have gotten a very heavy dose of socialism over decades by incrementally expanding government. We would have a much better chance if libertarians worked to incrementally contract government. Yet libertarians seem to want either a revolutionary overthrow or nothing at all.

I suspect that they worry if they participated in the ordinary political process they would then be partly responsible for the mess that comes from impure compromises. The best we can do is win back a little freedom at a time, at least for a while until the merits become evident.

It's good that Ron Paul gets to speak on Fox, where he is featured regularly. The ideas at least get heard.
seraine
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8/31/2011 7:08:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/31/2011 5:30:56 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
Libertarians seem to always want to lead with "legalize heroin," "abolish FEMA," "abolish the CIA," and "Iraq had a right to nuclear weapons." We have gotten a very heavy dose of socialism over decades by incrementally expanding government. We would have a much better chance if libertarians worked to incrementally contract government. Yet libertarians seem to want either a revolutionary overthrow or nothing at all.

Largely false. We would ideally want all of those things to happen. Did you watch jat93's second video? Watch from 1:25-1:50 on the second video that jat posted.

I suspect that they worry if they participated in the ordinary political process they would then be partly responsible for the mess that comes from impure compromises. The best we can do is win back a little freedom at a time, at least for a while until the merits become evident.

It's good that Ron Paul gets to speak on Fox, where he is featured regularly. The ideas at least get heard.