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Ron Paul Doubled National Support in 2 Weeks

GeoLaureate8
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9/15/2011 1:13:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
According to the recent CNN national poll, Ron Paul doubled his national support in two weeks, not least because he has blown out opponents in debate polls.

He is running in third only 6% below Romney, with Perry leading.

He was also recently polled to be most competitive against Obama. And people say he cant win?

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Ore_Ele
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9/15/2011 1:35:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
http://www.realclearpolitics.com...

That same poll also shows that Perry extended his lead from 27% to 30%, and that Palin's numbers are going up (from 10% up to 15%). He is still losing to someone not even in the race, according to that poll, so it is little wonder that many people don't exactly buy it.

The problem for him is that the 3 people ahead of him had a total of 51% before, now they have 63%, so he is not taking votes from them, he's picking them up from people leaving the race (Bachman dropped from 9 points to 4).

He's not gonna win.
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9/15/2011 3:51:49 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/15/2011 1:13:52 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
According to the recent CNN national poll, Ron Paul doubled his national support in two weeks, not least because he has blown out opponents in debate polls.

He is running in third only 6% below Romney, with Perry leading.

He was also recently polled to be most competitive against Obama. And people say he cant win?

http://www.infowars.com...

Correct, he is not going to win. His views on foreign policy (perceived as isolationist) are too extreme to capture to mainstream Republican vote. He can quadruple his support, and he will still not be a viable contender.
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9/15/2011 3:53:36 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/15/2011 1:13:52 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
According to the recent CNN national poll, Ron Paul doubled his national support in two weeks, not least because he has blown out opponents in debate polls.

He is running in third only 6% below Romney, with Perry leading.

He was also recently polled to be most competitive against Obama. And people say he cant win?

http://www.infowars.com...

Oh, and you may want to check those numbers. The poll says Paul has wavered between 10 and 12% popularity since July.

The difference is his popularity SANK in August to 6% and then rose to 12%.

4% of voters think Paul is most likely to win the nomination.

41% think Perry, 28% Romney, 6% Palin.
Mirza
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9/15/2011 5:12:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
It's too much to hope that people are well-educated and rational enough to vote for the right. The Left just got elected into government in my country, after 10 years. I can't believe people are like this. We were/are one of the most successful countries in the world during the financial crisis, we got out of a debt, we have low unemployment rates, etc. Yet people believe in the leftist propaganda and are now leading this country to socialism.
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9/15/2011 7:00:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/15/2011 5:12:47 PM, Mirza wrote:
It's too much to hope that people are well-educated and rational enough to vote for the right. The Left just got elected into government in my country, after 10 years. I can't believe people are like this. We were/are one of the most successful countries in the world during the financial crisis, we got out of a debt, we have low unemployment rates, etc. Yet people believe in the leftist propaganda and are now leading this country to socialism.

We're talking about a right that choose George W. Bush, right?
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9/15/2011 7:48:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/15/2011 5:12:47 PM, Mirza wrote:
It's too much to hope that people are well-educated and rational enough to vote for the right. The Left just got elected into government in my country, after 10 years. I can't believe people are like this. We were/are one of the most successful countries in the world during the financial crisis, we got out of a debt, we have low unemployment rates, etc. Yet people believe in the leftist propaganda and are now leading this country to socialism.

Both are outdated and worthless in my opinion. Vote Green.
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Mirza
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9/16/2011 2:38:38 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/15/2011 7:00:58 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 9/15/2011 5:12:47 PM, Mirza wrote:
It's too much to hope that people are well-educated and rational enough to vote for the right. The Left just got elected into government in my country, after 10 years. I can't believe people are like this. We were/are one of the most successful countries in the world during the financial crisis, we got out of a debt, we have low unemployment rates, etc. Yet people believe in the leftist propaganda and are now leading this country to socialism.

We're talking about a right that choose George W. Bush, right?
So, which president would be a better alternative to him? He might have been objectively what you would call a failure, but what about the alternatives? Obama increased troops in Afghanistan, got involved in the Libya war which totally didn't need American support, spent unnecessary money for failed bailout, etc. Is he better?
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9/16/2011 2:46:05 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/15/2011 7:00:58 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 9/15/2011 5:12:47 PM, Mirza wrote:
It's too much to hope that people are well-educated and rational enough to vote for the right. The Left just got elected into government in my country, after 10 years. I can't believe people are like this. We were/are one of the most successful countries in the world during the financial crisis, we got out of a debt, we have low unemployment rates, etc. Yet people believe in the leftist propaganda and are now leading this country to socialism.

We're talking about a right that choose George W. Bush, right?

The right in Denmark is about equivalent to the left in the US.

Mirza, you seem to have slid a bit to the economic right recently?
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9/16/2011 2:54:14 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/16/2011 2:46:05 AM, innomen wrote:
At 9/15/2011 7:00:58 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 9/15/2011 5:12:47 PM, Mirza wrote:
It's too much to hope that people are well-educated and rational enough to vote for the right. The Left just got elected into government in my country, after 10 years. I can't believe people are like this. We were/are one of the most successful countries in the world during the financial crisis, we got out of a debt, we have low unemployment rates, etc. Yet people believe in the leftist propaganda and are now leading this country to socialism.

We're talking about a right that choose George W. Bush, right?

The right in Denmark is about equivalent to the left in the US.
No, not at all! While they did keep one of the highest taxes in the world, and the welfare, they did so because they had to. Our spoiled country cannot think of having to pay for bills themselves. They want the hardest working people to do it for them.

The left gave us 25% VAT, increased prices on goods that we want to enjoy freely (cigarettes, etc.), very expensive public schooling which is not close to being one of the best in the world (but it's one of the most expensive), etc. The right couldn't just change all that.

Now that the left is in power, they will be largely influenced by the extremist left (socialist) party that we have, and the taxes will rise, companies might be nationalized, it will cost a lot to drive a car (and the gas prices are already around $2.3 per liter), etc.

Isn't all that similar to the left and right in America? Yes I think so. I doubt very much it's left here and right in America.

Mirza, you seem to have slid a bit to the economic right recently?
Not really, though I loathe the socialist economic system, and loathe the fact that this prosperous country is going toward the left. Personal experiences play a huge role in my more strong support of the right, too.
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9/16/2011 4:06:26 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/16/2011 2:54:14 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 9/16/2011 2:46:05 AM, innomen wrote:
At 9/15/2011 7:00:58 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 9/15/2011 5:12:47 PM, Mirza wrote:
It's too much to hope that people are well-educated and rational enough to vote for the right. The Left just got elected into government in my country, after 10 years. I can't believe people are like this. We were/are one of the most successful countries in the world during the financial crisis, we got out of a debt, we have low unemployment rates, etc. Yet people believe in the leftist propaganda and are now leading this country to socialism.

We're talking about a right that choose George W. Bush, right?

The right in Denmark is about equivalent to the left in the US.
No, not at all! While they did keep one of the highest taxes in the world, and the welfare, they did so because they had to. Our spoiled country cannot think of having to pay for bills themselves. They want the hardest working people to do it for them.

The left gave us 25% VAT, increased prices on goods that we want to enjoy freely (cigarettes, etc.), very expensive public schooling which is not close to being one of the best in the world (but it's one of the most expensive), etc. The right couldn't just change all that.

Now that the left is in power, they will be largely influenced by the extremist left (socialist) party that we have, and the taxes will rise, companies might be nationalized, it will cost a lot to drive a car (and the gas prices are already around $2.3 per liter), etc.

Isn't all that similar to the left and right in America? Yes I think so. I doubt very much it's left here and right in America.

Well, the left is the left where ever you go in their values and agenda; it's just how much opposition they have to restrain them from accomplishing their desired goals. Here in the US the left has considerable opposition, so for political reasons they must moderate their approach; whereas in Denmark there is less opposition so there is less moderation, so the left is...well more left.

Mirza, you seem to have slid a bit to the economic right recently?
Not really, though I loathe the socialist economic system, and loathe the fact that this prosperous country is going toward the left. Personal experiences play a huge role in my more strong support of the right, too.

Same here.