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9/16/2011 4:05:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Most DDOers are certainly on the left, and it seems to hurt the voting prospect of those taking conservative postions...

Any other thoughts?
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9/16/2011 4:08:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/16/2011 4:06:17 PM, Wnope wrote:
I've always noticed a right-wing lean to the more vocal ones here.

In my experience, I have lost a few debates that I should have won, because the voters seemed to be voting based on their own, left leaning, opinions...
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9/16/2011 4:08:58 PM
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AFAIK, it was the libertarians/ancaps a few months ago. That group seems to have lost a bit of their dominance recently, but I'd still say libertarians/ancaps if I had to pick one group that dominated.
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9/16/2011 4:10:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/16/2011 4:07:34 PM, innomen wrote:
It's economically right, and socially left - libertarian.

66% of DDOers favor National Health Care... National Health Care goes against everything the right and libertarians believe...
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9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.
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9/16/2011 4:15:20 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:10:19 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:07:34 PM, innomen wrote:
It's economically right, and socially left - libertarian.

66% of DDOers favor National Health Care... National Health Care goes against everything the right and libertarians believe...

You do realize that polls over 20,000 members that have not done a single debate, right? There are thousands of accounts that on that did nothing. We have over 30 new accounts a day, and 29 of them will never make a single post nor debate.
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9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.
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9/16/2011 4:22:35 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.

I'm guessing you would consider me quite liberal, or C_N quite liberal, but where i live, I'm really conservative, and where C_N lives, I'm pretty confident he's considered conservative.

I don't consider myself liberal at all, but if you put me next to Jerry Falwell, i would be Leon Trotsky.
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9/16/2011 4:23:02 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.

I'm not basing my numbers off of what people "call" themselves, I'm basing it off of a test that people actually took. The Political Compass test. We had 36 of our regular members take it, and there are more extreme right wingers, than extreme left wingers.
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9/16/2011 4:27:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/16/2011 4:22:35 PM, innomen wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.

I'm guessing you would consider me quite liberal, or C_N quite liberal, but where i live, I'm really conservative, and where C_N lives, I'm pretty confident he's considered conservative.

I don't consider myself liberal at all, but if you put me next to Jerry Falwell, i would be Leon Trotsky.

I don't consider you liberal. In fact, you are more conservative than me in some respects...
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9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/16/2011 4:23:02 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.

I'm not basing my numbers off of what people "call" themselves, I'm basing it off of a test that people actually took. The Political Compass test. We had 36 of our regular members take it, and there are more extreme right wingers, than extreme left wingers.

There are more than 36 people on DDO... and how is "extreme" defined on either side?
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9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM
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I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.:

In comparison to what, Hitler?
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9/16/2011 4:30:36 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.:

In comparison to what, Hitler?

You wanna call Hitler Conservative?

That's an entirely different debate. I am of the view that a statist, anti-capitalist, vegetarian, revolutionary leader had at least some things in common with the left...
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9/16/2011 4:31:09 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:23:02 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.

I'm not basing my numbers off of what people "call" themselves, I'm basing it off of a test that people actually took. The Political Compass test. We had 36 of our regular members take it, and there are more extreme right wingers, than extreme left wingers.

There are more than 36 people on DDO... and how is "extreme" defined on either side?

Those are the active members. There are only about 60 or so active members that log on at least twice a week, and even less that are on daily. Also, since I can't force members to take the test, it is really the best that can be done, and it is far more accurate than doing all 20,000+ accounts that are not active.
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9/16/2011 4:36:56 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:31:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:23:02 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.

I'm not basing my numbers off of what people "call" themselves, I'm basing it off of a test that people actually took. The Political Compass test. We had 36 of our regular members take it, and there are more extreme right wingers, than extreme left wingers.

There are more than 36 people on DDO... and how is "extreme" defined on either side?

Those are the active members. There are only about 60 or so active members that log on at least twice a week, and even less that are on daily. Also, since I can't force members to take the test, it is really the best that can be done, and it is far more accurate than doing all 20,000+ accounts that are not active.

I agree wholeheartedly with this. Almost all of my forum conversations seem to happen with the same group of 20-25 people although I'll buy that around 50-60 are regularly active.

As for conservative/liberal, what factors would you guys say make someone a conservative or a liberal?
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9/16/2011 4:37:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/16/2011 4:31:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:23:02 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.

I'm not basing my numbers off of what people "call" themselves, I'm basing it off of a test that people actually took. The Political Compass test. We had 36 of our regular members take it, and there are more extreme right wingers, than extreme left wingers.

There are more than 36 people on DDO... and how is "extreme" defined on either side?

Those are the active members. There are only about 60 or so active members that log on at least twice a week, and even less that are on daily. Also, since I can't force members to take the test, it is really the best that can be done, and it is far more accurate than doing all 20,000+ accounts that are not active.

Ya, but how is radical defined for both sides...

I have a feeling that it is much easier to be labeled a right wing radical than it is to be labeled a left wing radical...
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9/16/2011 4:44:00 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:30:36 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.:

In comparison to what, Hitler?

You wanna call Hitler Conservative?

That's an entirely different debate. I am of the view that a statist, anti-capitalist, vegetarian, revolutionary leader had at least some things in common with the left.:

My point is that your allegations that DDO is dominated by the Left is perhaps your perception only because you are so far to the right. As has been explained, the evidence suggests that DDO tends to be very moderate statistically.
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9/16/2011 4:44:14 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:37:16 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:31:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:23:02 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.

I'm not basing my numbers off of what people "call" themselves, I'm basing it off of a test that people actually took. The Political Compass test. We had 36 of our regular members take it, and there are more extreme right wingers, than extreme left wingers.

There are more than 36 people on DDO... and how is "extreme" defined on either side?

Those are the active members. There are only about 60 or so active members that log on at least twice a week, and even less that are on daily. Also, since I can't force members to take the test, it is really the best that can be done, and it is far more accurate than doing all 20,000+ accounts that are not active.

Ya, but how is radical defined for both sides...

I have a feeling that it is much easier to be labeled a right wing radical than it is to be labeled a left wing radical...

We have some religious radicals, but i honestly don't know of a right wing radical, or a left wing radical in the strict sense of the phrase. We have some on the left, like Feverish, and some on the right like...well me, but i wouldn't call us radicals.
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9/16/2011 4:48:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/16/2011 4:44:14 PM, innomen wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:37:16 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:31:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:23:02 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.

I'm not basing my numbers off of what people "call" themselves, I'm basing it off of a test that people actually took. The Political Compass test. We had 36 of our regular members take it, and there are more extreme right wingers, than extreme left wingers.

There are more than 36 people on DDO... and how is "extreme" defined on either side?

Those are the active members. There are only about 60 or so active members that log on at least twice a week, and even less that are on daily. Also, since I can't force members to take the test, it is really the best that can be done, and it is far more accurate than doing all 20,000+ accounts that are not active.

Ya, but how is radical defined for both sides...

I have a feeling that it is much easier to be labeled a right wing radical than it is to be labeled a left wing radical...

We have some religious radicals, but i honestly don't know of a right wing radical, or a left wing radical in the strict sense of the phrase. We have some on the left, like Feverish, and some on the right like...well me, but i wouldn't call us radicals.

You really don't consider the anarcho-capitalists and anarcho-syndicates a radical position?
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9/16/2011 4:54:11 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:44:00 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:30:36 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.:

In comparison to what, Hitler?

You wanna call Hitler Conservative?

That's an entirely different debate. I am of the view that a statist, anti-capitalist, vegetarian, revolutionary leader had at least some things in common with the left.:

My point is that your allegations that DDO is dominated by the Left is perhaps your perception only because you are so far to the right. As has been explained, the evidence suggests that DDO tends to be very moderate statistically.

You see, I'm not really that far to the right... If i'm considered a radical, then the system that defines "Radicals" is total bullshiit

And, you can't say Hitler and anarcho-capitalists are both on the far right, seeing as how they are absolute polar opposites...
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9/16/2011 4:56:45 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:48:57 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:44:14 PM, innomen wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:37:16 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:31:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:23:02 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.

I'm not basing my numbers off of what people "call" themselves, I'm basing it off of a test that people actually took. The Political Compass test. We had 36 of our regular members take it, and there are more extreme right wingers, than extreme left wingers.

There are more than 36 people on DDO... and how is "extreme" defined on either side?

Those are the active members. There are only about 60 or so active members that log on at least twice a week, and even less that are on daily. Also, since I can't force members to take the test, it is really the best that can be done, and it is far more accurate than doing all 20,000+ accounts that are not active.

Ya, but how is radical defined for both sides...

I have a feeling that it is much easier to be labeled a right wing radical than it is to be labeled a left wing radical...

We have some religious radicals, but i honestly don't know of a right wing radical, or a left wing radical in the strict sense of the phrase. We have some on the left, like Feverish, and some on the right like...well me, but i wouldn't call us radicals.

You really don't consider the anarcho-capitalists and anarcho-syndicates a radical position?

I would.
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9/16/2011 5:00:37 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:56:45 PM, innomen wrote:

You really don't consider the anarcho-capitalists and anarcho-syndicates a radical position?

I would.

It's not as If they don't exist on DDO.
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9/16/2011 5:01:12 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:37:16 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:31:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:23:02 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:18:38 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:13:14 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
It certainly doesn't "dominate" DDO. DDO is about 85% libertarian, with a slight left lean.

On the Political Compass, the average DDO member (meaning those that actually took the time to do it), comes to -0.37, -2.76. This shows that there is a very slight left lean.

Though actually, we have more left leaners, they just aren't as "extreme" as the right leaners.

For example, of people that lean between 0 and 4 points to the left, we have 9 members (or 25% of the members) and only 6 members that are between 0 and 4 points to the right (or 16.67%). The difference is that the extreme, lets say, greater than 6 either way, is only 6 members on the left, and 8 members on the right.

I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.

I'm not basing my numbers off of what people "call" themselves, I'm basing it off of a test that people actually took. The Political Compass test. We had 36 of our regular members take it, and there are more extreme right wingers, than extreme left wingers.

There are more than 36 people on DDO... and how is "extreme" defined on either side?

Those are the active members. There are only about 60 or so active members that log on at least twice a week, and even less that are on daily. Also, since I can't force members to take the test, it is really the best that can be done, and it is far more accurate than doing all 20,000+ accounts that are not active.

Ya, but how is radical defined for both sides...

I have a feeling that it is much easier to be labeled a right wing radical than it is to be labeled a left wing radical...

For the numbers I provided you "radical" (though I used "extreme") was greater than 6 points from the center. That is equidistant for both sides, not favoring one or the other.
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9/16/2011 5:02:29 PM
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Responding to the op, overwhelmingly no. At DDO were mostly libertarians. Some are the small governmen leaning variety(Kermit, intomen), others are minarchistic(Paradigm_lost?),and others are full blown anarchists(Grape, Thaddeus, Freeman, me, and Laissezfaire to name a few). The point is most of the vocal members are economically right, socially left leaning, not to say we don't have leftists though(unitedandy, feverish) but libertarians seem to be more vocal.
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9/16/2011 5:04:13 PM
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At 9/16/2011 4:54:11 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:44:00 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:30:36 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.:

In comparison to what, Hitler?

You wanna call Hitler Conservative?

That's an entirely different debate. I am of the view that a statist, anti-capitalist, vegetarian, revolutionary leader had at least some things in common with the left.:

My point is that your allegations that DDO is dominated by the Left is perhaps your perception only because you are so far to the right. As has been explained, the evidence suggests that DDO tends to be very moderate statistically.

You see, I'm not really that far to the right... If i'm considered a radical, then the system that defines "Radicals" is total bullshiit



And, you can't say Hitler and anarcho-capitalists are both on the far right, seeing as how they are absolute polar opposites...

You're falsely assuming that right-left as a 1-D scale is accurate. In a more accurate 2-D scale (economics and social freedoms), they are both on the far right. Ancaps being a libertarian far right, Hitler being a totalitarian far right.
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9/16/2011 5:07:03 PM
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At 9/16/2011 5:04:13 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:54:11 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:44:00 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:30:36 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.:

In comparison to what, Hitler?

You wanna call Hitler Conservative?

That's an entirely different debate. I am of the view that a statist, anti-capitalist, vegetarian, revolutionary leader had at least some things in common with the left.:

My point is that your allegations that DDO is dominated by the Left is perhaps your perception only because you are so far to the right. As has been explained, the evidence suggests that DDO tends to be very moderate statistically.

You see, I'm not really that far to the right... If i'm considered a radical, then the system that defines "Radicals" is total bullshiit



And, you can't say Hitler and anarcho-capitalists are both on the far right, seeing as how they are absolute polar opposites...

You're falsely assuming that right-left as a 1-D scale is accurate. In a more accurate 2-D scale (economics and social freedoms), they are both on the far right. Ancaps being a libertarian far right, Hitler being a totalitarian far right.

According to that same 2-D scale, they could both be put on the far left...

Ancaps being libertarian far left, and Hitler being totalitarian far left...

Of course, Hitler placement is a very complex question, but he does not belong anywhere near the Ancaps...
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9/16/2011 5:07:26 PM
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At 9/16/2011 5:04:13 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:54:11 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:44:00 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:30:36 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 9/16/2011 4:27:43 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
I don't think the right is more extreme. There are a lot of Socialists/Communists/Left Anarchists on DDO. And, a lot of people that call themselves moderates are actaully quite liberal.:

In comparison to what, Hitler?

You wanna call Hitler Conservative?

That's an entirely different debate. I am of the view that a statist, anti-capitalist, vegetarian, revolutionary leader had at least some things in common with the left.:

My point is that your allegations that DDO is dominated by the Left is perhaps your perception only because you are so far to the right. As has been explained, the evidence suggests that DDO tends to be very moderate statistically.

You see, I'm not really that far to the right... If i'm considered a radical, then the system that defines "Radicals" is total bullshiit



And, you can't say Hitler and anarcho-capitalists are both on the far right, seeing as how they are absolute polar opposites...

You're falsely assuming that right-left as a 1-D scale is accurate. In a more accurate 2-D scale (economics and social freedoms), they are both on the far right. Ancaps being a libertarian far right, Hitler being a totalitarian far right.

We should have someone do the test as if Hitler, answer the questions honestly as HItler would, someone who knows, and it would be an interesting marker.

Wait, where's Joseph Mengele, did he take the test?
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9/16/2011 5:10:22 PM
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Hitler was really an economic moderate. He implemented central planning and free enterprise policies, but did not lean too far to either side. In the totalitarian range, Stalin is on the far left, Mussolini on the right, and Hitler in the middle. Know this is off topic but whatever.
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