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sadolite
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11/21/2011 7:07:19 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
In my view the political land scape never moves right. What I mean by that is, policies proposed by the right only seek to reinstate what the left has changed. The left seeks to move ever further to the left and change what was already changed by the left and move it even further. There is no compromise anymore. It is just, will the country move to the left slower or faster. It will never move in the other direction, that is to say, be more to the right than it has been in any point in the history of the nation.
Beware of the people who are in your circle but are not in your corner.

And with the stroke of a pen people 18 to 21 who own a gun became criminals and public enemy #1 having committed no crime and having said nothing. Just like the Jews in Germany during WW2. Must be a weird feeling.

When I hear people crying and whining about their first world problems I think about the universe with everything in it and people in wheelchairs and all of their problems go away.
Lordknukle
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11/21/2011 7:08:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2011 7:07:19 PM, sadolite wrote:
In my view the political land scape never moves right. What I mean by that is, policies proposed by the right only seek to reinstate what the left has changed. The left seeks to move ever further to the left and change what was already changed by the left and move it even further. There is no compromise anymore. It is just, will the country move to the left slower or faster. It will never move in the other direction, that is to say, be more to the right than it has been in any point in the history of the nation.

Unfortunately, that might be kinda true.
Those damn liberals!:)
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16kadams
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11/21/2011 10:29:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2011 7:08:52 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 11/21/2011 7:07:19 PM, sadolite wrote:
In my view the political land scape never moves right. What I mean by that is, policies proposed by the right only seek to reinstate what the left has changed. The left seeks to move ever further to the left and change what was already changed by the left and move it even further. There is no compromise anymore. It is just, will the country move to the left slower or faster. It will never move in the other direction, that is to say, be more to the right than it has been in any point in the history of the nation.

Unfortunately, that might be kinda true.
Those damn liberals!:)

Agreed, and you are right, knukle is a conservative and likes socizlized medicine, that proves your theory.
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DanT
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11/21/2011 10:30:08 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2011 7:07:19 PM, sadolite wrote:
In my view the political land scape never moves right. What I mean by that is, policies proposed by the right only seek to reinstate what the left has changed. The left seeks to move ever further to the left and change what was already changed by the left and move it even further.

Left vs Right is sociocultural
The Left wants reform, the Right wants tradition

One could also add more axises;

Statist vs Libertarian is sociopolitical
Statist want more Government, while Libertarians want minimal Government

A less politically defining axis is the socioeconomic axis, which determines if one is capitalist or socialist.

Socialists want public ownership of wealth and industry
Capitalist want private ownership of wealth and industry

Here is a chart that better explains it: http://www.debate.org...

Blue is sociocultural
Red is sociopolitical
Green is socioeconomic
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darkkermit
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11/21/2011 11:26:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Yes, we are on the road to serfdom.

Each year there are more regulations then there were last year. And the number keeps on growing.

The federal government has never decreased in size, ever.

Welfare spending continues to consume more of the federal government spending.

The percent of those workers has increased.

And the problem is that as the program grows, there is a greater stakes to keep these programs due to individuals self-interest. Therefore it becomes increasingly difficult to cut spending as there are too many federal workers.

And the problem is that my generation appears not to see the problem with this. Small government libertarianism are a small minority.

But the problem is that the path is unsustainable. A society with more regulations, more debt, and our current form of government will inevitable collapse.
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Ren
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11/21/2011 11:48:17 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/21/2011 7:07:19 PM, sadolite wrote:
In my view the political land scape never moves right. What I mean by that is, policies proposed by the right only seek to reinstate what the left has changed. The left seeks to move ever further to the left and change what was already changed by the left and move it even further. There is no compromise anymore. It is just, will the country move to the left slower or faster. It will never move in the other direction, that is to say, be more to the right than it has been in any point in the history of the nation.

Conservativism is resistance to change.

You're about 80% to a rather sophisticated overall understanding of contemporary politics.

Here's a hint: political parties don't really exist.