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1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Indianna is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?
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1/14/2012 11:37:24 PM
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At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indiana is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?

fix'd
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1/14/2012 11:39:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/14/2012 11:37:24 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indiana is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?

fix'd

The problem with modern unions is that they've become just as bloated with power as the corporations and government they once tried to fight.
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1/15/2012 12:06:17 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indianna is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

good

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

There is no constitutional right

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

Yeah that was a dumb controversy

What is happening to this country?

*cough*obama*cough* and other people too, even on the right, but mostly obama and other people like him.
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1/15/2012 12:11:22 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/15/2012 12:06:17 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indianna is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

good

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

There is no constitutional right

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

Yeah that was a dumb controversy

What is happening to this country?

*cough*obama*cough* and other people too, even on the right, but mostly obama and other people like him.

You're blaming Unions on OBAMA?? My god... I can't even...
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

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1/15/2012 12:14:55 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
In case anyone is interested, Mitt Romney has been a long time advocate of Right to Work.

Rick Santorum, on the other hand, has opposed Right to Work and has been generally pro union.

This is not to beat up on Santorum, who is a good guy with some good ideas.

Growing up in Pensylvania, I think Santorum is an alright guy. People like him here a lot.

I would ultimatley pick Romney over Santorum, because Romney is more anti union and has more private sector experience.
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1/15/2012 3:03:04 AM
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How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state?
It's not constitutional for the GOVERNMENT to do so (freedom of association)

It's also not constitutional to have a "right to work" state (for the same reason), where the government forbids employers from setting certain conditions of employment.
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1/15/2012 8:40:54 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indianna is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?

REALLY?????!?!?!?!?!?! I LIVE IN INDIANA!!!!

YESSSS!!!!!! :)

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1/15/2012 8:46:44 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indianna is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?:

Unions give kick backs to politicians who pander in their interests, particularly Democrats, and so these politicians hook-up their lobbyist cronies. Sad state of affairs.
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1/15/2012 11:36:36 AM
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At 1/15/2012 3:03:04 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state?
It's not constitutional for the GOVERNMENT to do so (freedom of association)

It's also not constitutional to have a "right to work" state (for the same reason), where the government forbids employers from setting certain conditions of employment.

This.
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1/15/2012 11:42:31 AM
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The problem with modern unions is that they've become just as bloated with power as the corporations and government they once tried to fight.

This.
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1/15/2012 12:20:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indianna is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?

It would be helpful in the discussion if the people posting actually knew what "right to work" laws were and the effects of them.
What "right to work" laws do is make it so that nonunion members free load off of union members. Unions negotiate with employers in order to provide workers with higher wages, better benefits, and safer/better working conditions. These negotiations create benefits for every workers under said employers.
So basically right to work laws make it so that union members have to pay for nonunion members
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1/15/2012 12:21:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/15/2012 12:20:16 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indianna is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?

It would be helpful in the discussion if the people posting actually knew what "right to work" laws were and the effects of them.
What "right to work" laws do is make it so that nonunion members free load off of union members. Unions negotiate with employers in order to provide workers with higher wages, better benefits, and safer/better working conditions. These negotiations create benefits for every workers under said employers.
So basically right to work laws make it so that union members have to pay for nonunion members

Bull.

Unions are obsolete in today's day and age.
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1/15/2012 12:22:01 PM
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At 1/14/2012 11:39:05 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:37:24 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indiana is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?

fix'd

The problem with modern unions is that they've become just as bloated with power as the corporations and government they once tried to fight.
The only difference being that unions advocate for workers and for better working conditions while. I find it odd that you find decent working conditions and policies aimed at helping people to be a problem
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1/15/2012 1:31:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/15/2012 12:22:01 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:39:05 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:37:24 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indiana is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?

fix'd

The problem with modern unions is that they've become just as bloated with power as the corporations and government they once tried to fight.
The only difference being that unions advocate for workers and for better working conditions while. I find it odd that you find decent working conditions and policies aimed at helping people to be a problem

The problem is the various government subsidies for them (for which right to work is not a solution alas). With the power the government gives them, they can set up businesses for long term destruction. They've done this in the auto industry for example.

A union cannot in the long term raise the average wage, it can only distort the market so that workers in some industries feed off that industry until the market takes a wrong turn and the rotted carcass starts to break into little pieces.

I find it profoundly stupid that you think "policies aimed at helping people" are immune from being problematic.
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1/15/2012 1:59:44 PM
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At 1/15/2012 8:46:44 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indianna is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?:

Unions give kick backs to politicians who pander in their interests, particularly Democrats, and so these politicians hook-up their lobbyist cronies. Sad state of affairs.

Sorta like how big corporations buy republican politicians???
I do agree with right to work though... Unions are like communism, the original idea would have been fine, it was meant to do only good. But then it all went to hell.
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1/15/2012 2:15:43 PM
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At 1/15/2012 11:36:36 AM, Reasoning wrote:
At 1/15/2012 3:03:04 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state?
It's not constitutional for the GOVERNMENT to do so (freedom of association)

It's also not constitutional to have a "right to work" state (for the same reason), where the government forbids employers from setting certain conditions of employment.

This.

Not what right to work is. Right to work simply means you don't have to join a union in order to get a job. Which means if you can't pay your union dues, you won't get fired, or you won't be turned down for a job. Or if you don't agree with unions politically, you won't be forced to pay for their lobbying.
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1/15/2012 2:16:49 PM
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At 1/15/2012 1:59:44 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/15/2012 8:46:44 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indianna is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?:

Unions give kick backs to politicians who pander in their interests, particularly Democrats, and so these politicians hook-up their lobbyist cronies. Sad state of affairs.

Sorta like how big corporations buy republican politicians???

Since when is Obama Republican?
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1/15/2012 2:23:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/15/2012 12:21:38 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/15/2012 12:20:16 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indianna is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?

It would be helpful in the discussion if the people posting actually knew what "right to work" laws were and the effects of them.
What "right to work" laws do is make it so that nonunion members free load off of union members. Unions negotiate with employers in order to provide workers with higher wages, better benefits, and safer/better working conditions. These negotiations create benefits for every workers under said employers.
So basically right to work laws make it so that union members have to pay for nonunion members

Bull.

Unions are obsolete in today's day and age.
So according to you you think having safe/decent working conditions, decent compensation and higher producvity is obsolete… Are you trying to say stupid things or are you just a mo..ron?
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1/15/2012 2:24:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/15/2012 2:23:02 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/15/2012 12:21:38 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/15/2012 12:20:16 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indianna is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?

It would be helpful in the discussion if the people posting actually knew what "right to work" laws were and the effects of them.
What "right to work" laws do is make it so that nonunion members free load off of union members. Unions negotiate with employers in order to provide workers with higher wages, better benefits, and safer/better working conditions. These negotiations create benefits for every workers under said employers.
So basically right to work laws make it so that union members have to pay for nonunion members

Bull.

Unions are obsolete in today's day and age.
So according to you you think having safe/decent working conditions, decent compensation and higher producvity is obsolete… Are you trying to say stupid things or are you just a mo..ron?

No. We have already established these things. Unions were fine back when industry was young but now days we have safe working conditions and I don't think that if the union went away companies would revert to the old ways.
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1/15/2012 2:31:34 PM
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At 1/15/2012 1:31:05 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 1/15/2012 12:22:01 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:39:05 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:37:24 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indiana is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?

fix'd

The problem with modern unions is that they've become just as bloated with power as the corporations and government they once tried to fight.
The only difference being that unions advocate for workers and for better working conditions while. I find it odd that you find decent working conditions and policies aimed at helping people to be a problem

The problem is the various government subsidies for them (for which right to work is not a solution alas). With the power the government gives them, they can set up businesses for long term destruction. They've done this in the auto industry for example.

A union cannot in the long term raise the average wage, it can only distort the market so that workers in some industries feed off that industry until the market takes a wrong turn and the rotted carcass starts to break into little pieces.

I find it profoundly stupid that you think "policies aimed at helping people" are immune from being problematic.
Except for the fact that unionized car plants are more productive than nont unionzed ones but don't let the facts get in the way
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1/15/2012 2:32:40 PM
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but forcing people into unions isn't good either...
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1/15/2012 2:37:30 PM
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At 1/15/2012 2:32:40 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
but forcing people into unions isn't good either...

no and that's my point. No one should be forced to join a union.

If there has to be unions fine but don't make me join if I don't want to.
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1/15/2012 2:41:56 PM
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At 1/15/2012 2:37:30 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:32:40 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
but forcing people into unions isn't good either...

no and that's my point. No one should be forced to join a union.

If there has to be unions fine but don't make me join if I don't want to.
I see so you're in favor of "right to work laws" because you want to free load off of unions. Nice to know..
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1/15/2012 2:43:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/15/2012 2:41:56 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:37:30 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:32:40 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
but forcing people into unions isn't good either...

no and that's my point. No one should be forced to join a union.

If there has to be unions fine but don't make me join if I don't want to.
I see so you're in favor of "right to work laws" because you want to free load off of unions. Nice to know..

No Im for right to work because it preserves the workers right to freedom when it comes to choosing how you want to work and practice buisness.
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1/15/2012 2:49:06 PM
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At 1/15/2012 2:43:14 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:41:56 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:37:30 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:32:40 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
but forcing people into unions isn't good either...

no and that's my point. No one should be forced to join a union.

If there has to be unions fine but don't make me join if I don't want to.
I see so you're in favor of "right to work laws" because you want to free load off of unions. Nice to know..

No Im for right to work because it preserves the workers right to freedom when it comes to choosing how you want to work and practice buisness.
Exactly you are for right to work because it "preserves" your freedom to free load off of unions, and union members. You want to "preserve" your freedom to force them to improve your working conditions and compensation instead of doing it yourself.
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1/15/2012 2:53:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/15/2012 2:49:06 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:43:14 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:41:56 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:37:30 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:32:40 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
but forcing people into unions isn't good either...

no and that's my point. No one should be forced to join a union.

If there has to be unions fine but don't make me join if I don't want to.
I see so you're in favor of "right to work laws" because you want to free load off of unions. Nice to know..

No Im for right to work because it preserves the workers right to freedom when it comes to choosing how you want to work and practice buisness.
Exactly you are for right to work because it "preserves" your freedom to free load off of unions, and union members. You want to "preserve" your freedom to force them to improve your working conditions and compensation instead of doing it yourself.

I'd rather do it myself actually.

Unions are large groups of people who sit around together while powerful liberal lobbyists go to washington and get "better working conditions". Your money in a union goes straight to democrats all the time. What if I don't want that?

I'd rather negotiate with my boss one on one not hide behind a group.
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1/15/2012 2:58:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/15/2012 2:31:34 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/15/2012 1:31:05 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 1/15/2012 12:22:01 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:39:05 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:37:24 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/14/2012 11:36:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Indiana is now debating about whether to switch to a "right to work state" meaning that workers don't have to sign on to a union when they join certain job fields.

How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state? Every state should be a right to work state.

Like unions trying to block Boeing from opening a factory in SC because it was a right to work state.

What is happening to this country?

fix'd

The problem with modern unions is that they've become just as bloated with power as the corporations and government they once tried to fight.
The only difference being that unions advocate for workers and for better working conditions while. I find it odd that you find decent working conditions and policies aimed at helping people to be a problem

The problem is the various government subsidies for them (for which right to work is not a solution alas). With the power the government gives them, they can set up businesses for long term destruction. They've done this in the auto industry for example.

A union cannot in the long term raise the average wage, it can only distort the market so that workers in some industries feed off that industry until the market takes a wrong turn and the rotted carcass starts to break into little pieces.

I find it profoundly stupid that you think "policies aimed at helping people" are immune from being problematic.
Except for the fact that unionized car plants are more productive than nont unionzed ones but don't let the facts get in the way

That's an assertion, not a fact. A fact is-- General Motors went bankrupt.

And remember, what matters is net productivity,not gross.
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1/15/2012 3:01:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/15/2012 2:53:29 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:49:06 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:43:14 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:41:56 PM, Teafood wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:37:30 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 1/15/2012 2:32:40 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
but forcing people into unions isn't good either...

no and that's my point. No one should be forced to join a union.

If there has to be unions fine but don't make me join if I don't want to.
I see so you're in favor of "right to work laws" because you want to free load off of unions. Nice to know..

No Im for right to work because it preserves the workers right to freedom when it comes to choosing how you want to work and practice buisness.
Exactly you are for right to work because it "preserves" your freedom to free load off of unions, and union members. You want to "preserve" your freedom to force them to improve your working conditions and compensation instead of doing it yourself.

I'd rather do it myself actually.

Unions are large groups of people who sit around together while powerful liberal lobbyists go to washington and get "better working conditions". Your money in a union goes straight to democrats all the time. What if I don't want that?

I'd rather negotiate with my boss one on one not hide behind a group.
You'd rather do it yourself yet you advocate for right to work laws which force unions to do it for you. Meaning you're again full of sh1t
Right to work laws make it so you get all the benefits in compensation and working conditions that unions provide for you only you don't have to contribute to the costs of getting those things.
Like I said before you just want to free load off of others because you're lazy
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1/15/2012 3:01:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/15/2012 2:15:43 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/15/2012 11:36:36 AM, Reasoning wrote:
At 1/15/2012 3:03:04 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
How is it American or Constitutional to require union membership in any state?
It's not constitutional for the GOVERNMENT to do so (freedom of association)

It's also not constitutional to have a "right to work" state (for the same reason), where the government forbids employers from setting certain conditions of employment.

This.

Not what right to work is. Right to work simply means you don't have to join a union in order to get a job. Which means if you can't pay your union dues, you won't get fired, or you won't be turned down for a job.
You obviously didn't understand a word I said because that's EXACTLY WHAT I SAID RIGHT TO WORK IS. Prohibiting employers from firing you for not being in a union is PROHIITING EMPLOYERS FROM SETTING CERTAIN CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT.
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