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1/16/2012 8:05:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Huffington Post

Dr. Ron Paul: 6 Reasons He Is Electable and Will Win

6. Dr. Paul not an "isolationist". He is a veteran who believes in only going to war when it has been formally declared per the U.S. Constitution. "We shouldn't have so many injured and in our hospitals because we shouldn't go to war unless it's declared. If it's declared, we should go win it and get it over with." If he were an isolationist, what reason would he be the candidate who gets the most donations from people in the military? Dr. Paul wants to withdraw from the United Nations, which would be the Constitutional thing to do. Thomas Jefferson, founding father and an author of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution stated, "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none." Regarding Israel, Dr. Paul said "Two of the tenets of a true Zionist are 'self-determination' and 'self-reliance...We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her avowed enemies. How does that help Israel? And in return, we act like her master and demand veto power over her foreign policy." Ron Paul states, "Any kind of racism or anti-Semitism is incompatible with my philosophy." He is against foreign aid period. "I believe that federal foreign aid is absurd. We're broke!... It is ridiculous for us to be borrowing money from China and giving it to Pakistan. I have described foreign aid as taking money from poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in poor countries. I know that many in other nations are hurting, but I also know that the American people are a generous people. While we should end the unconstitutional federal foreign aid program, I would encourage Americans to continue to voluntarily contribute to the needs of other nations."

5. Dr. Ron Paul would run the U.S. budget like many of us responsibly handle our money at home: Spending less than we make and getting rid of dishonest or unnecessary waste.

4. Dr. Paul's plans for the country make sense.

3. Dr. Paul has the right track record, temperament and character to be President. He is mentally clear, firm and tells the truth.

2. He is the only one who makes sense in the debates. If you watch the debates, he answers questions directly and honestly. The link in this paragraph lists the upcoming debates. Many traditional Democrats might find themselves voting for Dr. Paul after watching him in a few debates.

1. Dr. Paul is the only person in the 2012 race for president who wants to serve the country.

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1/16/2012 8:06:31 PM
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GEO. STOP PRETENDING THAT COLBERT WILL NOT WIN.

Duh.
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1/16/2012 8:10:23 PM
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At 1/16/2012 8:06:31 PM, M.Torres wrote:
GEO. STOP PRETENDING THAT COLBERT WILL NOT WIN.

Duh.

Colbert 2012! Though I would like either Huntsman or Jon Stewart, I firmly support Colbert. +1 anyway.
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1/16/2012 9:26:28 PM
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Ok, now name a couple more that believe that.
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1/16/2012 9:57:53 PM
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Is this huff-post's version of alan colmes or something?
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1/16/2012 10:13:29 PM
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At 1/16/2012 8:05:58 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Huffington Post

Dr. Ron Paul: 6 Reasons He Is Electable and Will Win

6. Dr. Paul not an "isolationist". He is a veteran who believes in only going to war when it has been formally declared per the U.S. Constitution. "We shouldn't have so many injured and in our hospitals because we shouldn't go to war unless it's declared. If it's declared, we should go win it and get it over with." If he were an isolationist, what reason would he be the candidate who gets the most donations from people in the military? Dr. Paul wants to withdraw from the United Nations, which would be the Constitutional thing to do. Thomas Jefferson, founding father and an author of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution stated, "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none." Regarding Israel, Dr. Paul said "Two of the tenets of a true Zionist are 'self-determination' and 'self-reliance...We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her avowed enemies. How does that help Israel? And in return, we act like her master and demand veto power over her foreign policy." Ron Paul states, "Any kind of racism or anti-Semitism is incompatible with my philosophy." He is against foreign aid period. "I believe that federal foreign aid is absurd. We're broke!... It is ridiculous for us to be borrowing money from China and giving it to Pakistan. I have described foreign aid as taking money from poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Huh. So now China is the poverty stricken country and Pakistan is the rich one? Easy solution. Take money from Pakistan and give it to China. Lol.

**Or turn towards a WORLD SOCIETY, instead of drawing away from the world.

I know that many in other nations are hurting, but I also know that the American people are a generous people. While we should end the unconstitutional federal foreign aid program, I would encourage Americans to continue to voluntarily contribute to the needs of other nations."
So basically, Ron Paul is saying "Instead of having the government organizing donations and making the process a lot simpler, let's have every American contribute by themselves to whatever country they see fit".
What happens to the selfish people? Apparently, Ron Paul likes to support people who are unwilling to give back to society.

Meh. World Society is much more cooler.


5. Dr. Ron Paul would run the U.S. budget like many of us responsibly handle our money at home: Spending less than we make and getting rid of dishonest or unnecessary waste.
...Comparing the US government to a house is just.... I suppose if we all had guns and had to fight off our neighbors...

And furthermore, this suggests a socialist/communist/whatever society. Do you pay your spouse in "X" money for making you dinner? No, but rather everyone works together without any form of currency to seperate them. And they share everything... Are you communist now?

4. Dr. Paul's plans for the country make sense.

lol?


3. Dr. Paul has the right track record, temperament and character to be President. He is mentally clear, firm and tells the truth.
...How do you know that he's telling the 'truth'. Perhaps he's part of the illuminati too! *gasps* IT ALL MAKES SENSE! One day, he'll gather up all of his supporters, bring them to a brainwashing chamber, and they will all come out fascist, and ****'d up.

2. He is the only one who makes sense in the debates. If you watch the debates, he answers questions directly and honestly. The link in this paragraph lists the upcoming debates. Many traditional Democrats might find themselves voting for Dr. Paul after watching him in a few debates.

Meh. He's still crazy whether if he talks confident or not.

1. Dr. Paul is the only person in the 2012 race for president who wants to serve the country.

So...I suppose becoming 'president' isn't serving the country?

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1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM
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Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...
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1/16/2012 11:32:24 PM
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At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Second this.
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1/16/2012 11:40:49 PM
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just cause he has good views =/= he wins.
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1/16/2012 11:43:03 PM
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At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Not nationally, but he did receive more than 20% of the vote in both of the first two primaries.
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1/16/2012 11:48:39 PM
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At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

Ron Paul had 23% in the New Hampshire primary.

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

So you'll be laughing when your freedoms are stripped away? You're sick minded you sadomasochistic fascist.
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1/16/2012 11:56:26 PM
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At 1/16/2012 11:48:39 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

Ron Paul had 23% in the New Hampshire primary.

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

So you'll be laughing when your freedoms are stripped away? You're sick minded you sadomasochistic fascist.

I though he had 30%?
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1/17/2012 12:00:44 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/16/2012 11:32:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Second this.

At 1/16/2012 11:32:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Second this.

I will come back to this thread and laugh in both of your faces when Romney wins the nomination, loses to Obama, Ron Paul supporters do everything they can to spread the libertarian message/get new supporters over the next 4 years, and by 2016 20% of the party identifies as Ron Paul Republicans.

Ron Paul may not - and indeed probably won't win the battle, but he WILL win the war. All of Ron Paul's supporters will do everything they can to make sure the Party will be in good shape to elect a libertarian in 2016. This is what they did over the last 4 years and it obviously worked, with Ron Paul more than doubling his numbers in the Iowa/New Hampshire primaries. Those numbers will only grow. The GOP has a Ron Paul problem, and if they don't recognize it now, they're going to have a brutal wake up call in 4 years.

And even though Paul will probably not get the nomination, he will amass a few hundred delegates - at least 200 - and have a large influence on the 2012 platform. Romney needs Paul on his side and he knows that unless the Republican Party makes certain concessions, or unless he personally does, Paul could screw him and the whole party over. So expect Ron Paul to get a victory in the sense that either the Republicans' 2012 platform will include some of his ideas, or Romney will make some political concession (giving Paul role/choice of Fed chairman or something of that nature).

Bottom line: Ron Paul, NOT the Republican establishment, will have the last laugh in this battle over the direction of the Republican Party.
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1/17/2012 12:02:31 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/17/2012 12:00:44 AM, jat93 wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:32:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Second this.

At 1/16/2012 11:32:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Second this.

I will come back to this thread and laugh in both of your faces when Romney wins the nomination, loses to Obama, Ron Paul supporters do everything they can to spread the libertarian message/get new supporters over the next 4 years, and by 2016 20% of the party identifies as Ron Paul Republicans.

Ron Paul may not - and indeed probably won't win the battle, but he WILL win the war. All of Ron Paul's supporters will do everything they can to make sure the Party will be in good shape to elect a libertarian in 2016. This is what they did over the last 4 years and it obviously worked, with Ron Paul more than doubling his numbers in the Iowa/New Hampshire primaries. Those numbers will only grow. The GOP has a Ron Paul problem, and if they don't recognize it now, they're going to have a brutal wake up call in 4 years.

And even though Paul will probably not get the nomination, he will amass a few hundred delegates - at least 200 - and have a large influence on the 2012 platform. Romney needs Paul on his side and he knows that unless the Republican Party makes certain concessions, or unless he personally does, Paul could screw him and the whole party over. So expect Ron Paul to get a victory in the sense that either the Republicans' 2012 platform will include some of his ideas, or Romney will make some political concession (giving Paul role/choice of Fed chairman or something of that nature).

Bottom line: Ron Paul, NOT the Republican establishment, will have the last laugh in this battle over the direction of the Republican Party.

Sorry, for some reason the quoted previous posts got doubled.
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1/17/2012 12:31:47 AM
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At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Yeah kind of like how supporters of MICHELE BACHMANN supported her and then MICHELE BACHMANN was the FIRST candidate to DROP OUT after IOWA.
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1/17/2012 12:35:18 AM
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At 1/17/2012 12:33:12 AM, 1Historygenius wrote:
Newt 2012!

no
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1/17/2012 12:44:51 AM
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At 1/17/2012 12:35:18 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 1/17/2012 12:33:12 AM, 1Historygenius wrote:
Newt 2012!

no

Yes!
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1/17/2012 9:16:00 AM
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At 1/17/2012 12:44:51 AM, 1Historygenius wrote:
At 1/17/2012 12:35:18 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 1/17/2012 12:33:12 AM, 1Historygenius wrote:
Newt 2012!

no

Yes!



Yes +1!
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1/17/2012 9:46:29 AM
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At 1/16/2012 11:48:39 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

So you'll be laughing when your freedoms are stripped away? You're sick minded you sadomasochistic fascist.

Yep, NEW WORLD ORDER WILL SILENCE THOSE WHO OPPRESS IT!!!!!! (sarcasm to try to make geo sh*t his pants in fear)
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1/17/2012 9:49:28 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/17/2012 12:00:44 AM, jat93 wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:32:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Second this.

At 1/16/2012 11:32:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Second this.

I will come back to this thread and laugh in both of your faces when Romney wins the nomination, loses to Obama, Ron Paul supporters do everything they can to spread the libertarian message/get new supporters over the next 4 years, and by 2016 20% of the party identifies as Ron Paul Republicans.

Ron Paul may not - and indeed probably won't win the battle, but he WILL win the war. All of Ron Paul's supporters will do everything they can to make sure the Party will be in good shape to elect a libertarian in 2016. This is what they did over the last 4 years and it obviously worked, with Ron Paul more than doubling his numbers in the Iowa/New Hampshire primaries. Those numbers will only grow. The GOP has a Ron Paul problem, and if they don't recognize it now, they're going to have a brutal wake up call in 4 years.

And even though Paul will probably not get the nomination, he will amass a few hundred delegates - at least 200 - and have a large influence on the 2012 platform. Romney needs Paul on his side and he knows that unless the Republican Party makes certain concessions, or unless he personally does, Paul could screw him and the whole party over. So expect Ron Paul to get a victory in the sense that either the Republicans' 2012 platform will include some of his ideas, or Romney will make some political concession (giving Paul role/choice of Fed chairman or something of that nature).

Bottom line: Ron Paul, NOT the Republican establishment, will have the last laugh in this battle over the direction of the Republican Party.

You do realize that Ron Paul will be dead in 4 years, right?
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1/17/2012 12:01:49 PM
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At 1/16/2012 10:13:29 PM, vmpire321 wrote:
At 1/16/2012 8:05:58 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
Huffington Post

Dr. Ron Paul: 6 Reasons He Is Electable and Will Win

6. Dr. Paul not an "isolationist". He is a veteran who believes in only going to war when it has been formally declared per the U.S. Constitution. "We shouldn't have so many injured and in our hospitals because we shouldn't go to war unless it's declared. If it's declared, we should go win it and get it over with." If he were an isolationist, what reason would he be the candidate who gets the most donations from people in the military? Dr. Paul wants to withdraw from the United Nations, which would be the Constitutional thing to do. Thomas Jefferson, founding father and an author of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution stated, "Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none." Regarding Israel, Dr. Paul said "Two of the tenets of a true Zionist are 'self-determination' and 'self-reliance...We give $3 billion to Israel and $12 billion to her avowed enemies. How does that help Israel? And in return, we act like her master and demand veto power over her foreign policy." Ron Paul states, "Any kind of racism or anti-Semitism is incompatible with my philosophy." He is against foreign aid period. "I believe that federal foreign aid is absurd. We're broke!... It is ridiculous for us to be borrowing money from China and giving it to Pakistan. I have described foreign aid as taking money from poor people in rich countries and giving it to rich people in poor countries.
Huh. So now China is the poverty stricken country and Pakistan is the rich one? Easy solution. Take money from Pakistan and give it to China. Lol.

Dude, he says that China is the rich one (but the money is taken from the poor there and given to the rich people in pakistan).

**Or turn towards a WORLD SOCIETY, instead of drawing away from the world.
So more force can be employed against more people?

I know that many in other nations are hurting, but I also know that the American people are a generous people. While we should end the unconstitutional federal foreign aid program, I would encourage Americans to continue to voluntarily contribute to the needs of other nations."
So basically, Ron Paul is saying "Instead of having the government organizing donations and making the process a lot simpler, let's have every American contribute by themselves to whatever country they see fit".
That sounds excellent. Firstly government aid is not simple; it normally goes into the hands of corrupt officials. And secondly it removes the element of choice. Without choice it hardly seems moral.

What happens to the selfish people? Apparently, Ron Paul likes to support people who are unwilling to give back to society.
Why should they have to? Isn't that the point of voluntary donations? I see no reason why people should be forced to help others.

Meh. World Society is much more cooler.

Why? (I'm guessing the double comparative was stylistic)


5. Dr. Ron Paul would run the U.S. budget like many of us responsibly handle our money at home: Spending less than we make and getting rid of dishonest or unnecessary waste.
...Comparing the US government to a house is just.... I suppose if we all had guns and had to fight off our neighbors...

You don't need to fight off your neighbours though. If he were advocating complete demilitarization that would be one thing, but he just wants to stop going to his neighbours house with guns. And as metaphors go... It makes its point; waste isn't good. A household needs to manage its finances, as does a nation. It isn't meant to be completely analogous. It would be foolish to suggest otherwise.

And furthermore, this suggests a socialist/communist/whatever society. Do you pay your spouse in "X" money for making you dinner? No, but rather everyone works together without any form of currency to seperate them. And they share everything... Are you communist now?

Hardly. This is misinterpreting the rather basic metaphor (which even explains the context it should be used in; that is in the budget.) I'm going to give you benefit of the doubt on this point; you probably just wanted a response to every point and didn't consider this one too much. (Also I would be a massive liar if I said I'd never misinterpreted rhetoric before)


4. Dr. Paul's plans for the country make sense.

lol?

+1
This is article bumph. It doesn't explain whether it is true or not just pads it out. I can't even see why. 5 is a better article number than 6 anyway.

3. Dr. Paul has the right track record, temperament and character to be President. He is mentally clear, firm and tells the truth.
...How do you know that he's telling the 'truth'. Perhaps he's part of the illuminati too! *gasps* IT ALL MAKES SENSE! One day, he'll gather up all of his supporters, bring them to a brainwashing chamber, and they will all come out fascist, and ****'d up.

Heh. You can't disagree with this one though; in terms of character, he seems the best of a pretty poor group.


2. He is the only one who makes sense in the debates. If you watch the debates, he answers questions directly and honestly. The link in this paragraph lists the upcoming debates. Many traditional Democrats might find themselves voting for Dr. Paul after watching him in a few debates.

Meh. He's still crazy whether if he talks confident or not.

Please support. Not claiming you do not have reasons for this assertion, but merely that I can't rebut them without them being stated.

1. Dr. Paul is the only person in the 2012 race for president who wants to serve the country.

So...I suppose becoming 'president' isn't serving the country?

Not necessarily. People have many motives, and if they don't act in the interests of their nation when they become its leader then they can hardly be described as serving. I'm fairly sure you can think of "a few" reasons why people might want to be president for less than noble motivations.
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1/17/2012 12:48:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/17/2012 9:49:28 AM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 1/17/2012 12:00:44 AM, jat93 wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:32:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Second this.

At 1/16/2012 11:32:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Second this.

I will come back to this thread and laugh in both of your faces when Romney wins the nomination, loses to Obama, Ron Paul supporters do everything they can to spread the libertarian message/get new supporters over the next 4 years, and by 2016 20% of the party identifies as Ron Paul Republicans.

Ron Paul may not - and indeed probably won't win the battle, but he WILL win the war. All of Ron Paul's supporters will do everything they can to make sure the Party will be in good shape to elect a libertarian in 2016. This is what they did over the last 4 years and it obviously worked, with Ron Paul more than doubling his numbers in the Iowa/New Hampshire primaries. Those numbers will only grow. The GOP has a Ron Paul problem, and if they don't recognize it now, they're going to have a brutal wake up call in 4 years.

And even though Paul will probably not get the nomination, he will amass a few hundred delegates - at least 200 - and have a large influence on the 2012 platform. Romney needs Paul on his side and he knows that unless the Republican Party makes certain concessions, or unless he personally does, Paul could screw him and the whole party over. So expect Ron Paul to get a victory in the sense that either the Republicans' 2012 platform will include some of his ideas, or Romney will make some political concession (giving Paul role/choice of Fed chairman or something of that nature).

Bottom line: Ron Paul, NOT the Republican establishment, will have the last laugh in this battle over the direction of the Republican Party.

You do realize that Ron Paul will be dead in 4 years, right?

Even if that was probable, which it is not, how does that refute ANYTHING I said? It doesn't.

But not only is it irrelevant, it's also improbable. Both of his parents died in their early-mid 90s. He exercises a ridiculous amount and regularly bike rides for miles at a time. Given that longevity is in his genes, and that he takes exceptional care of his body and health, the odds are that he'll live longer than 4 years. Considering the average death age is 78, which is 2 years older than Paul, and that's factoring in the vast majority of people whose parents did not live till their mid 90s and who don't keep their bodies in perfect shape.

So no, he'll probably live way longer than you expect him to. I'd bet you that he doesn't die within the next 4 years (not naturally anyway). And once again, what does his death have to do with his supporters spreading his message? His supporters will do what they did from 2008-2012 (literally doubled their numbers, as evidenced by statewide/national polling and primary results) with or without his presence. And I assume he'll be alive at this year's Republican convention, where his hundreds of delegates and the dedication of his supporters will surely gain him some influence on the 2012 platform.

Ron Paul, NOT the Republican establishment, will have the last laugh in this battle over the direction of the Republican Party.
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1/20/2012 7:22:40 AM
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I honestly wish that I could support Ron Paul because he's not the typical conservative. He truly believes in the idea of a small government in the idea that not only does he want to reduce the amount of influence in the government, he also leaves the social issues to the individual states and wants to leave the federal government out of it. Although he has conservative ideas on issues like abortion, gay marriage, environmental movements, and others, he is completely supportive of the 10th Amendment and leaves the states to decide for themselves on how they want to deal with the issues. My only problem is just how extreme his fiscal views are. I'm for fiscal conservatism as much as the next guy because I feel that this is how you truly run an economy with the occassional regulation here and there, but...shut down the Department of Education? Shut down the Department of Energy? Shut down the Federal Reserve, the official bank of the United States when President Andrew Jackson did the same thing with the Second Bank of the United States during his presidency and caused the Panic of 1833? He's just a bit off his handle when it comes to his fiscal policies, but his social views just seem to be much greater than Santorum's or Romney's.
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1/26/2012 11:13:25 AM
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You do realize that Ron Paul will be dead in 4 years, right?

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1/26/2012 12:53:44 PM
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At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Wrong. Iowa and New Hampshire dumbass.
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1/26/2012 12:55:54 PM
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At 1/26/2012 12:53:44 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Wrong. Iowa and New Hampshire dumbass.

Ron Paul has yet to win 1 single state. It has and will not happen.
Say cheese.
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1/26/2012 12:57:23 PM
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At 1/26/2012 12:53:44 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Wrong. Iowa and New Hampshire dumbass.

First of all, he said at least capture 20% of the vote, and two, what is it with your dumb last sentences?
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1/29/2012 12:21:14 AM
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At 1/17/2012 9:16:00 AM, OberHerr wrote:
At 1/17/2012 12:44:51 AM, 1Historygenius wrote:
At 1/17/2012 12:35:18 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 1/17/2012 12:33:12 AM, 1Historygenius wrote:
Newt 2012!

no

Yes!



Yes +1!

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1/29/2012 12:41:22 AM
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At 1/26/2012 12:53:44 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 1/16/2012 11:31:48 PM, imabench wrote:
Geo seems to be missing the fact that Ron Paul has never had mroe than 20% of the republican vote at any time in the primaries....

I will come back to this thread to laugh in his face when Romney wins the nomination...

Wrong. Iowa and New Hampshire dumbass.

Oh yeah, the guy endorsing the candidate who finished in dead last in South Carolina knows 100% that Romney wont beat Gingrich whose a f*cking lunatic, Santorum who had his fame in New Hampshire and is down to 15%, or Ron Paul who puts Sarah Palin to shame in terms of saying stupid sh*t....
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