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1/22/2012 7:58:35 PM
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1/22/2012 8:00:12 PM
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At 1/22/2012 7:58:35 PM, Lordknukle wrote:


What else would I expect from Supreme Leader Lordknukle...?
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1/22/2012 8:02:47 PM
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At 1/22/2012 8:00:12 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 1/22/2012 7:58:35 PM, Lordknukle wrote:


What else would I expect from Supreme Leader Lordknukle...?

lol
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1/22/2012 8:06:41 PM
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Lordknuckle reminds me of a power drunk madman that would enslave humanity if given the tools.
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1/22/2012 8:12:05 PM
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At 1/22/2012 8:06:41 PM, 000ike wrote:
Lordknuckle reminds me of a power drunk madman that would enslave humanity if given the tools.


Hey, who are you calling a mad man? ;)
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1/22/2012 8:21:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 8:06:41 PM, 000ike wrote:
Lordknuckle reminds me of a power drunk madman that would enslave humanity if given the tools.

...If that happens, i'll be a 'tool', gladly.
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1/22/2012 8:51:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 8:50:11 PM, Viper-King wrote:
@royalpaladin, So pornography should be legalized?

Porn is legal, and should remain that way.
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1/22/2012 8:54:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 8:50:11 PM, Viper-King wrote:
@royalpaladin, So pornography should be legalized?

I mean, I am not fond of it because it is denigrating to women, but I would not argue that it should be illegal.
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1/22/2012 8:59:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 8:54:51 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 8:50:11 PM, Viper-King wrote:
@royalpaladin, So pornography should be legalized?

I mean, I am not fond of it because it is denigrating to women, but I would not argue that it should be illegal.

It's also denigrating to men.
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1/22/2012 9:02:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:00:37 PM, Viper-King wrote:
I should be illegal because morality and dignity are important things!

Why?
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1/22/2012 9:02:16 PM
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At 1/22/2012 9:00:37 PM, Viper-King wrote:
I should be illegal because morality and dignity are important things!

You cannot force your moral codes on others. Please explain why sexual activity is inherently immoral.
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1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM
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So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.
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1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
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1/22/2012 9:10:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.

This.
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1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.
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1/22/2012 9:12:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.

Why?
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I tell thee, 'tis not half so fair as thou
Or any man that breathes on earth.

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1/22/2012 9:14:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.

Why can they not see others having sex? What is inherently wrong about nakedness or sexuality? What is being a pervert bad?
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1/22/2012 9:15:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:12:00 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.

Why?
Pervert Is:
1. deviating from what is proper: deviating greatly from what is accepted as right, normal, or proper
2. relating to unusual sexual activities: relating to or practicing sexual activities considered unusual or unacceptable
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1/22/2012 9:16:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:15:37 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:12:00 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.

Why?
Pervert Is:
1. deviating from what is proper: deviating greatly from what is accepted as right, normal, or proper
2. relating to unusual sexual activities: relating to or practicing sexual activities considered unusual or unacceptable

Okay. So let's just say it IS perverted. What's wrong with that?
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1/22/2012 9:23:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:14:58 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.

Why can they not see others having sex? What is inherently wrong about not akedness or sexuality? What is being a pervert bad?
1-2.Children at the age of seven are exposed to pornography and it ruins their mind for a lifetime, people who see pornography desire for more sex and force sex upon young victims, old men who see pornography sometimes can't control themselves and force sex upon young girls. Pornography is a negative influence which ruins children's minds, inflames the desire of men old and young resulting in rape many times, and makes women young and old seduce men many times.
3. Perverts are deviating from what is proper: deviating greatly from what is accepted as right, normal, or proper, relating to unusual sexual activities: relating to or practicing sexual activities considered unusual or unacceptable.
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1/22/2012 9:24:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:16:25 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:15:37 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:12:00 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.

Why?
Pervert Is:
1. deviating from what is proper: deviating greatly from what is accepted as right, normal, or proper
2. relating to unusual sexual activities: relating to or practicing sexual activities considered unusual or unacceptable

Okay. So let's just say it IS perverted. What's wrong with that?

The post below.
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1/22/2012 9:24:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:24:11 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:16:25 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:15:37 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:12:00 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.

Why?
Pervert Is:
1. deviating from what is proper: deviating greatly from what is accepted as right, normal, or proper
2. relating to unusual sexual activities: relating to or practicing sexual activities considered unusual or unacceptable

Okay. So let's just say it IS perverted. What's wrong with that?

The post above.
Fixed.
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1/22/2012 9:25:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:23:30 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:14:58 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.

Why can they not see others having sex? What is inherently wrong about not akedness or sexuality? What is being a pervert bad?
1-2.Children at the age of seven are exposed to pornography and it ruins their mind for a lifetime, people who see pornography desire for more sex and force sex upon young victims, old men who see pornography sometimes can't control themselves and force sex upon young girls. Pornography is a negative influence which ruins children's minds, inflames the desire of men old and young resulting in rape many times, and makes women young and old seduce men many times.

Proof or it doesn't happen.

3. Perverts are deviating from what is proper: deviating greatly from what is accepted as right, normal, or proper, relating to unusual sexual activities: relating to or practicing sexual activities considered unusual or unacceptable.

Again: why is perversion a bad thing?

I applaud you, VK, for avoiding the overall question of "why does society need a specific moral code, as opposed to rights-based policies?"
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1/22/2012 9:29:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:23:30 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:14:58 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.

Why can they not see others having sex? What is inherently wrong about not akedness or sexuality? What is being a pervert bad?
1-2.Children at the age of seven are exposed to pornography and it ruins their mind for a lifetime, people who see pornography desire for more sex and force sex upon young victims, old men who see pornography sometimes can't control themselves and force sex upon young girls. Pornography is a negative influence which ruins children's minds, inflames the desire of men old and young resulting in rape many times, and makes women young and old seduce men many times.
This is easily solved by banning child molestation and child rape. It is idiotic to ban a completly innocent action because you believe it might result in a negative action. This is the equivalent of saying that we should force women to wear unrevealing clothing/that it should be illegal for women to wear clothing deemed "improper" by society because it could inflame the passions of rapists.
3. Perverts are deviating from what is proper: deviating greatly from what is accepted as right, normal, or proper, relating to unusual sexual activities: relating to or practicing sexual activities considered unusual or unacceptable.

That does not mean that it should be banned. Homosexuality is also a deviation from the sexual norm. Should it be banned?
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1/22/2012 9:30:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:29:30 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:23:30 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:14:58 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.

Why can they not see others having sex? What is inherently wrong about not akedness or sexuality? What is being a pervert bad?
1-2.Children at the age of seven are exposed to pornography and it ruins their mind for a lifetime, people who see pornography desire for more sex and force sex upon young victims, old men who see pornography sometimes can't control themselves and force sex upon young girls. Pornography is a negative influence which ruins children's minds, inflames the desire of men old and young resulting in rape many times, and makes women young and old seduce men many times.
This is easily solved by banning child molestation and child rape. It is idiotic to ban a completly innocent action because you believe it might result in a negative action. This is the equivalent of saying that we should force women to wear unrevealing clothing/that it should be illegal for women to wear clothing deemed "improper" by society because it could inflame the passions of rapists.
3. Perverts are deviating from what is proper: deviating greatly from what is accepted as right, normal, or proper, relating to unusual sexual activities: relating to or practicing sexual activities considered unusual or unacceptable.

That does not mean that it should be banned. Homosexuality is also a deviation from the sexual norm. Should it be banned?

He'll probably say yes.
Think'st thou heaven is such a glorious thing?
I tell thee, 'tis not half so fair as thou
Or any man that breathes on earth.

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1/22/2012 9:36:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/22/2012 9:30:52 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:29:30 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:23:30 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:14:58 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:10:55 PM, Viper-King wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:04:43 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 1/22/2012 9:03:50 PM, Viper-King wrote:
So are you saying we can do whatever we want because there's no moral code? There has to be a specific moral code that limits freedom or we can kill people.

There is a distinction between violating another individual's right to life and having sex.
Pornography is defined as sexually explicit material: films, magazines, writings, photographs, or other materials that are sexually explicit and intended to cause sexual arousal. Having sex is not a bad thing but people should not be allowed to see other people having sex, being totally naked, and showing their private parts to other people. I call that a pervert.

Why can they not see others having sex? What is inherently wrong about not akedness or sexuality? What is being a pervert bad?
1-2.Children at the age of seven are exposed to pornography and it ruins their mind for a lifetime, people who see pornography desire for more sex and force sex upon young victims, old men who see pornography sometimes can't control themselves and force sex upon young girls. Pornography is a negative influence which ruins children's minds, inflames the desire of men old and young resulting in rape many times, and makes women young and old seduce men many times.
This is easily solved by banning child molestation and child rape. It is idiotic to ban a completly innocent action because you believe it might result in a negative action. This is the equivalent of saying that we should force women to wear unrevealing clothing/that it should be illegal for women to wear clothing deemed "improper" by society because it could inflame the passions of rapists.
3. Perverts are deviating from what is proper: deviating greatly from what is accepted as right, normal, or proper, relating to unusual sexual activities: relating to or practicing sexual activities considered unusual or unacceptable.

That does not mean that it should be banned. Homosexuality is also a deviation from the sexual norm. Should it be banned?

He'll probably say yes.

I bet you guys $100 he was exposed to pornography as a kid...lol
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1/22/2012 9:38:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Being crazy on governmental control, I really don't see a rational case for banning pornography. This is to note that I have no problem with imposing morality of society.
From Utilitarianism (what I follow), the pornography is a benefit for society. The porn stars are voluntarily doing this so we can safely assume that their happiness if high. Those watching it also benefit from it because it satisfies their sexual urges. So as a result, porn is societally beneficial
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