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1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Or will it come back in the summer?
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1/29/2012 2:22:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
It died because the majority of them were bored college teenagers that just did it because they thought it'd be fun. There are those that understood the true message of the 99% movement, but those that didn't ultimately killed the entire operation.

Yes, it has died...but I consider this one ill-equipped battle, the war for fairness and justice is still ongoing, and when Wisconsin demonstrates our power by ousting Scott Brown, we'll focus on the rest of America.
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1/29/2012 2:31:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:22:54 PM, 000ike wrote:
It died because the majority of them were bored college teenagers that just did it because they thought it'd be fun. There are those that understood the true message of the 99% movement, but those that didn't ultimately killed the entire operation.

Yes, it has died...but I consider this one ill-equipped battle, the war for fairness and justice is still ongoing, and when Wisconsin demonstrates our power by ousting Scott Brown, we'll focus on the rest of America.

Im in wisconsin, my and my father were at the capitol every weekend, it was awesome. Now im just waiting for them to pick up again during the recall election
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1/29/2012 2:33:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:22:54 PM, 000ike wrote:
It died because the majority of them were bored college teenagers that just did it because they thought it'd be fun. There are those that understood the true message of the 99% movement, but those that didn't ultimately killed the entire operation.

Yes, it has died...but I consider this one ill-equipped battle, the war for fairness and justice is still ongoing, and when Wisconsin demonstrates our power by ousting Scott Brown, we'll focus on the rest of America.

How is Wisconisn going to "oust" a Senator from Massachusetts?
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1/29/2012 2:34:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:33:28 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:22:54 PM, 000ike wrote:
It died because the majority of them were bored college teenagers that just did it because they thought it'd be fun. There are those that understood the true message of the 99% movement, but those that didn't ultimately killed the entire operation.

Yes, it has died...but I consider this one ill-equipped battle, the war for fairness and justice is still ongoing, and when Wisconsin demonstrates our power by ousting Scott Brown, we'll focus on the rest of America.


How is Wisconisn going to "oust" a Senator from Massachusetts?

lol my bad, you know I meant Scott Walker
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1/29/2012 2:35:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:34:21 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:33:28 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:22:54 PM, 000ike wrote:
It died because the majority of them were bored college teenagers that just did it because they thought it'd be fun. There are those that understood the true message of the 99% movement, but those that didn't ultimately killed the entire operation.

Yes, it has died...but I consider this one ill-equipped battle, the war for fairness and justice is still ongoing, and when Wisconsin demonstrates our power by ousting Scott Brown, we'll focus on the rest of America.


How is Wisconisn going to "oust" a Senator from Massachusetts?

lol my bad, you know I meant Scott Walker

Yeah you had a "57 States" momnt. :)
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1/29/2012 2:36:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:34:21 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:33:28 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:22:54 PM, 000ike wrote:
It died because the majority of them were bored college teenagers that just did it because they thought it'd be fun. There are those that understood the true message of the 99% movement, but those that didn't ultimately killed the entire operation.

Yes, it has died...but I consider this one ill-equipped battle, the war for fairness and justice is still ongoing, and when Wisconsin demonstrates our power by ousting Scott Brown, we'll focus on the rest of America.


How is Wisconisn going to "oust" a Senator from Massachusetts?

lol my bad, you know I meant Scott Walker

but it's so much easier for them to dissmiss you by doin g that than actually making a point
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1/29/2012 2:36:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:34:21 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:33:28 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:22:54 PM, 000ike wrote:
It died because the majority of them were bored college teenagers that just did it because they thought it'd be fun. There are those that understood the true message of the 99% movement, but those that didn't ultimately killed the entire operation.

Yes, it has died...but I consider this one ill-equipped battle, the war for fairness and justice is still ongoing, and when Wisconsin demonstrates our power by ousting Scott Brown, we'll focus on the rest of America.


How is Wisconisn going to "oust" a Senator from Massachusetts?

lol my bad, you know I meant Scott Walker

Just giving you a hard time, haha.
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1/29/2012 2:37:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:36:05 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:34:21 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:33:28 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:22:54 PM, 000ike wrote:
It died because the majority of them were bored college teenagers that just did it because they thought it'd be fun. There are those that understood the true message of the 99% movement, but those that didn't ultimately killed the entire operation.

Yes, it has died...but I consider this one ill-equipped battle, the war for fairness and justice is still ongoing, and when Wisconsin demonstrates our power by ousting Scott Brown, we'll focus on the rest of America.


How is Wisconisn going to "oust" a Senator from Massachusetts?

lol my bad, you know I meant Scott Walker

but it's so much easier for them to dissmiss you by doin g that than actually making a point

Well, what do you want us to say?
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1/29/2012 2:38:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
sorry for above post jt, didn't give you enough credit.
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1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*
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1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.
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1/29/2012 2:43:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

dude,...the sentiment of the occupy movement and progressivism has been knocking at the legislative doors of this country since TR took office. If you think the urge for social justice will ever die, you're a fool.
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1/29/2012 2:47:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.

Yeah, the fact that most of the occupy movement was a bunch of old 60s hippies, and some conspiracy theorists, I'm not so sure I'm gonna take this as the case.

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1/29/2012 2:48:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
They were still going at it in Washington DC when I went there over Winter Break, but they didnt seem to remember what they were protesting in the first place.
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1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.

The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.
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1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.
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1/29/2012 2:55:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.


Does anyone else find it ironic that bhatti1020 is saying that we should tax and regulate more so we don't become like Communist China?
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1/29/2012 2:57:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.


Who defines what is fair share? The lower the rich are taxed, the greater economic incentives for them to invest in a variety of different resources.

The video that you just posted is called capitalism. If you don't like it, move back to Soviet Russia. People will die under any system. It is absurd to think that if people die under capitalism then every single system is better than it.

Also, the main idea of capitalism is voluntary exchange. Voluntary exchange allows for situations such as the ones depicted to change via the people having the freedom of quitting the company or leaving the city.
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1/29/2012 2:58:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:55:10 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.



Does anyone else find it ironic that bhatti1020 is saying that we should tax and regulate more so we don't become like Communist China?

No, that we should tax and regulate more so that it doesn't get to the point where factories can kill people and abuse workers, then laugh in peoples faces when they call them on it.
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1/29/2012 2:59:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:55:10 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.



Does anyone else find it ironic that bhatti1020 is saying that we should tax and regulate more so we don't become like Communist China?

Hong Kong is the most free economic city in the world. What are you talking about?
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1/29/2012 3:00:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:57:50 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.


Who defines what is fair share? The lower the rich are taxed, the greater economic incentives for them to invest in a variety of different resources.

The video that you just posted is called capitalism. If you don't like it, move back to Soviet Russia. People will die under any system. It is absurd to think that if people die under capitalism then every single system is better than it.

Also, the main idea of capitalism is voluntary exchange. Voluntary exchange allows for situations such as the ones depicted to change via the people having the freedom of quitting the company or leaving the city.

People shouldn't die like that. So that the more well off can become more well off.
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1/29/2012 3:00:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:58:24 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:55:10 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.



Does anyone else find it ironic that bhatti1020 is saying that we should tax and regulate more so we don't become like Communist China?

No, that we should tax and regulate more so that it doesn't get to the point where factories can kill people and abuse workers, then laugh in peoples faces when they call them on it.

blablablablablapeoplediethereforecapitalismisbadblablablablabla

If you want to see the effects of regulations and taxation, Soviet Russia is that way ----------------->.
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1/29/2012 3:01:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 3:00:13 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:57:50 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.


Who defines what is fair share? The lower the rich are taxed, the greater economic incentives for them to invest in a variety of different resources.

The video that you just posted is called capitalism. If you don't like it, move back to Soviet Russia. People will die under any system. It is absurd to think that if people die under capitalism then every single system is better than it.

Also, the main idea of capitalism is voluntary exchange. Voluntary exchange allows for situations such as the ones depicted to change via the people having the freedom of quitting the company or leaving the city.

People shouldn't die like that. So that the more well off can become more well off.
Remember, I'm Pakistani?

So people should die by being sent to gulag camps by the hundreds of thousands and forced to work to their bone and then eventually shot?
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1/29/2012 3:02:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:58:24 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:55:10 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.



Does anyone else find it ironic that bhatti1020 is saying that we should tax and regulate more so we don't become like Communist China?

No, that we should tax and regulate more so that it doesn't get to the point where factories can kill people and abuse workers, then laugh in peoples faces when they call them on it.

Can you give me an example of a free market economy where "factories kill people and abuse workers, then laugh in peoples faces when they call them on it"?

Because, I can't think of any. After all, factories are just there to meet consumer demand. And, they hire workers to fill this demand, by their own choice. So, if consumers and workers don't want to killed and abused, they won't be.

I can think of a lot of socialist economies where workers and people are abused and killed by the central government, and then the central government laughs in peoples faces when they are called on it.
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1/29/2012 3:02:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 3:01:10 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 1/29/2012 3:00:13 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:57:50 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.


Who defines what is fair share? The lower the rich are taxed, the greater economic incentives for them to invest in a variety of different resources.

The video that you just posted is called capitalism. If you don't like it, move back to Soviet Russia. People will die under any system. It is absurd to think that if people die under capitalism then every single system is better than it.

Also, the main idea of capitalism is voluntary exchange. Voluntary exchange allows for situations such as the ones depicted to change via the people having the freedom of quitting the company or leaving the city.

People shouldn't die like that. So that the more well off can become more well off.
Remember, I'm Pakistani?

So people should die by being sent to gulag camps by the hundreds of thousands and forced to work to their bone and then eventually shot?

Im not asking for communism. Im asking that we have laws so that we don't get the pollution problem that China has. Fail, Try again
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1/29/2012 3:03:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 2:59:27 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:55:10 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.



Does anyone else find it ironic that bhatti1020 is saying that we should tax and regulate more so we don't become like Communist China?

Hong Kong is the most free economic city in the world. What are you talking about?

Hong Kong is not communist. It is a seperate entity from the rest of China. Yes, it is very free economically.
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1/29/2012 3:04:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 3:02:42 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 3:01:10 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 1/29/2012 3:00:13 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:57:50 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:53:58 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:48:55 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:41:11 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:38:31 PM, DanT wrote:
At 1/29/2012 2:03:28 PM, bhatti1020 wrote:
Or will it come back in the summer?

Dead! Dead! *crosses fingers, and jumps up and down*

Dan, unless you are part of the super rich, the occupy movement is fighting for you.
The conservative leaders are only out there to make the rich richer. They grab you into their party by playing with your emotions. They align themselves with most of the moral views and social issues of the working class and rural population, but in reality they use you just as a step stool to reach their goals.


The occupy movement is fighting for a more expansive government that taxes and regulates more. Who is that going to help?

Other than the politicians.

Of course, why should we make the people who are screwing you and me to pay their fair share? and regulating businesses so that small towns don't become like villages in China where people are dropping dead and contracting cancer randomly after that new factory moved in.


Who defines what is fair share? The lower the rich are taxed, the greater economic incentives for them to invest in a variety of different resources.

The video that you just posted is called capitalism. If you don't like it, move back to Soviet Russia. People will die under any system. It is absurd to think that if people die under capitalism then every single system is better than it.

Also, the main idea of capitalism is voluntary exchange. Voluntary exchange allows for situations such as the ones depicted to change via the people having the freedom of quitting the company or leaving the city.

People shouldn't die like that. So that the more well off can become more well off.
Remember, I'm Pakistani?

So people should die by being sent to gulag camps by the hundreds of thousands and forced to work to their bone and then eventually shot?

Im not asking for communism. Im asking that we have laws so that we don't get the pollution problem that China has. Fail, Try again

No, you're asking for socialism. Exploitation of workers is an essential point in every single economic ideology. However, capitalism is the lesser of all evils simply because it not only gives the worker the freedom to choose, but also the freedom to succeed.
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1/29/2012 3:05:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Hong Kong is the most free economic city in the world. What are you talking about?


Hong Kong is not communist. It is a seperate entity from the rest of China. Yes, it is very free economically.

Hong Kong is part of the PRC.
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1/29/2012 3:06:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 3:05:38 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Hong Kong is the most free economic city in the world. What are you talking about?


Hong Kong is not communist. It is a seperate entity from the rest of China. Yes, it is very free economically.

Hong Kong is part of the PRC.

It has a different political system from mainland China. When China was communist, Hong Kong was a free market economy.
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