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Anarchy is bad.

Viper-King
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1/30/2012 4:18:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Anarchy is evil because of the following reasons:
1. Anarchy's chaos ends lives.
Let's start by taking a look at the Spanish Civil War. The chaos and fighting between the Republic and Franco caused 500,000 deaths according to the New York Times.

Also, let's take a look at Somalia. During the last twenty years, the violence has been ever increasing, reaching a fevered pitch during the invasions of Somalia by Kenya and Ethiopia in October 2011. The warlords known as the "Islamic Courts Union," then Al-Shabaab, and now the Somalian Islamic Emirate, as well as a number of other violent factions, have been fighting for decades now. Because the violence was spilling over the borders, Kenya and Ethiopia were forced to act in order to protect their nations. The lack of a central government is directly responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people.

2. Anarchy Destroys Freedom.
Ironically, anarchy can actually harm freedom. People who have to pay others just to stay alive, and with no guarantee of that either, are not free. Living in constant fear of harm form others, the state of nature per Hobbes, is a very enslaved existence indeed. Government, by restricting people's personal freedom to take harmful actions, actually increases the freedom others have to live lives free from fear and anxiety for their families or themselves. In the English Civil War, the people had a taste of anarchy and how it destroyed their peace and prosperity, and thus their ability to exercise their freedom, to such an extent that they weren't free to go outside at night for fear of being murdered.

3. Anarchy is Unsustainable
This is the coup de grace argument against the spirit of anarchy. In Somalia, anarchy has ended in a power struggle between different factions. In the English Civil War, anarchy ended with the people clamoring for the government to take action to restore peace and tranquility. And in Iceland, anarcho-capitalism ended in a civil war between chiefs who had gained centralized power. What we see in these examples are two themes:

a. That anarchy, when it has been attempted, has usually ended up with a number of people gaining control over the country once again. In other words, human nature and the desire for power makes anarchy unsustainable because there will always be that urge to control others and the ability to make it happen, i.e., government.

b. That anarchy has also ended when the people have had enough of the violence and chaos and preferred a tyrannical government, like Franco in Spain, to what they experienced under complete "freedom." Thus has anarchy ever perished— man desires power, and man desires safety.
Conclusion:

Anarachy is bad and evil because it alwas leads to bad things.
DetectableNinja
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1/30/2012 4:20:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
You make valid points here, but I notice that you confuse anarchy, the literal lack of a state, with pure chaos.
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Wnope
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1/30/2012 4:20:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 4:20:13 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
You make valid points here, but I notice that you confuse anarchy, the literal lack of a state, with pure chaos.

And what do you consider a "functioning" anarchic society?
Yarely
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1/30/2012 4:23:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 4:20:58 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 1/30/2012 4:20:13 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
You make valid points here, but I notice that you confuse anarchy, the literal lack of a state, with pure chaos.

And what do you consider a "functioning" anarchic society?

There's a lot of different branches of anarchy. Some that might be able to work
"Anarchism stands for the liberation of the human mind from the dominion of religion and liberation of the human body from the coercion of property; liberation from the shackles and restraint of government. It stands for a social order based on the free grouping of individuals""
-Emma Goldman
CosmicAlfonzo
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1/30/2012 4:43:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
The government doesn't actually exist, and it can't be abolished because it will always exist.

Anarchy is the ground that all institutions build from.

A real anarchist is not an idealist who wants to change the system. A real anarchist is someone who understands that game theory on an individual level is the government. It always has been.

It's all chaos, and chaos is the fundamentally ordered that doesn't quite fit perfectly in our grids of perception. We are crippled by the variable unaccounted for. It is the goal of science to find this variable unaccounted for, and we will never do it. For that, you'd need complete cosmic consciousness. It is a mode of operating that is completely alien to human modes of thinking.
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PARADIGM_L0ST
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1/30/2012 5:44:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 4:25:39 PM, Viper-King wrote:
My definition of anarchy is a society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government; an absence of order.:

You bring up very valid criticisms to be considered, but to say that it's synonymous with the absence of order is very misleading.
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