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Corruption of the adoption industry

lovelife
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2/4/2012 7:15:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Why are so many young scared mothers being pressured to make the "loving choice" of adoption?
Why do they exaggerate, even lie, about the risks of abortion (from bleeding to death, infections, breast cancer, PTSD/covering up that PTSD and maternal death are much higher from birthing than from abortion, etc) but then refuse to acknowledge that adoption is no walk in the park?

Adoption increases PTSD, affects both the children and the birth parents horribly, has lead to suicide, even in open adoption the adoptive parents can move and cut off contact with birth parents, legally, in closed adoptions the child may find out and become enraged with birth parents, and that there are millions of children worldwide that need homes, thousands domestically.

g2g tho

http://www.adoptuskids.org...
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OberHerr
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2/4/2012 7:17:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I really wanna see proof for these claims of the horrible adoption industry.

You claim WE exaggerate Abortion effects?
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16kadams
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2/4/2012 7:25:46 PM
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you know they have multiple tests to make sure they are secure parents and there are near 1.5 million people wanting to adopt.
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https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
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2/4/2012 7:29:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/4/2012 7:25:46 PM, 16kadams wrote:
you know they have multiple tests to make sure they are secure parents and there are near 1.5 million people wanting to adopt.

Then why so many kids without homes, worldwide?
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OberHerr
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2/4/2012 7:32:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/4/2012 7:29:30 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 2/4/2012 7:25:46 PM, 16kadams wrote:
you know they have multiple tests to make sure they are secure parents and there are near 1.5 million people wanting to adopt.

Then why so many kids without homes, worldwide?

Do you know how hard it is to just up and go to a different country for a kid?
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2/4/2012 7:57:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/4/2012 7:29:30 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 2/4/2012 7:25:46 PM, 16kadams wrote:
you know they have multiple tests to make sure they are secure parents and there are near 1.5 million people wanting to adopt.

Then why so many kids without homes, worldwide?

I am saying US
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2/4/2012 8:40:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/4/2012 7:57:58 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 2/4/2012 7:29:30 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 2/4/2012 7:25:46 PM, 16kadams wrote:
you know they have multiple tests to make sure they are secure parents and there are near 1.5 million people wanting to adopt.

Then why so many kids without homes, worldwide?

I am saying US

Then why are there thousands in the US without homes?

And it's not JUST because they aren't babies, cause there are several that were 6 months old and had to wait until they were 4-7 before someone was willing to adopt them.
It's because people are fed lies about there not being enough children that need homes, they only ever say that alot of ppl want to parent, but that simply doesn't hold true if you look at the numbers.

Granted, letting all gay people in every state adopt would help put a dent worldwide and virtually eliminate the need in the US, however that is not currently the case, currently there are far more children that need homes, than people willing to adopt.

I also find IVF evil, but they don't promote subjecting women to ovary slavery against her will based on lies, misconception, deceit, and emotional terrorism, so it really is the lesser of two evils.
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2/4/2012 8:49:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/4/2012 8:40:00 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 2/4/2012 7:57:58 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 2/4/2012 7:29:30 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 2/4/2012 7:25:46 PM, 16kadams wrote:
you know they have multiple tests to make sure they are secure parents and there are near 1.5 million people wanting to adopt.

Then why so many kids without homes, worldwide?

I am saying US

Then why are there thousands in the US without homes?

And it's not JUST because they aren't babies, cause there are several that were 6 months old and had to wait until they were 4-7 before someone was willing to adopt them.
It's because people are fed lies about there not being enough children that need homes, they only ever say that alot of ppl want to parent, but that simply doesn't hold true if you look at the numbers.

Granted, letting all gay people in every state adopt would help put a dent worldwide and virtually eliminate the need in the US, however that is not currently the case, currently there are far more children that need homes, than people willing to adopt.

I also find IVF evil, but they don't promote subjecting women to ovary slavery against her will based on lies, misconception, deceit, and emotional terrorism, so it really is the lesser of two evils.

source?
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
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2/4/2012 9:12:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/4/2012 8:49:22 PM, 16kadams wrote:
source?

"Our members help make a difference in the lives of thousands of children waiting to be adopted and play a key role in promoting a culture of adoption in our nation and around the world through advocacy, social networking, blogging, and sharing with others the personal impact of adoption in their lives."

https://www.adoptioncouncil.org...
http://www.acf.hhs.gov...

over 100,000 each year, granted declining, but not anywhere close to 0.
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OberHerr
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2/4/2012 9:14:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/4/2012 9:12:45 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 2/4/2012 8:49:22 PM, 16kadams wrote:
source?

"Our members help make a difference in the lives of thousands of children waiting to be adopted and play a key role in promoting a culture of adoption in our nation and around the world through advocacy, social networking, blogging, and sharing with others the personal impact of adoption in their lives."

https://www.adoptioncouncil.org...
http://www.acf.hhs.gov...

over 100,000 each year, granted declining, but not anywhere close to 0.

So, were is the proof for the babies that need adopting?
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lovelife
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2/4/2012 9:34:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/4/2012 9:14:36 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/4/2012 9:12:45 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 2/4/2012 8:49:22 PM, 16kadams wrote:
source?

"Our members help make a difference in the lives of thousands of children waiting to be adopted and play a key role in promoting a culture of adoption in our nation and around the world through advocacy, social networking, blogging, and sharing with others the personal impact of adoption in their lives."

https://www.adoptioncouncil.org...
http://www.acf.hhs.gov...

over 100,000 each year, granted declining, but not anywhere close to 0.

So, were is the proof for the babies that need adopting?

birth mothers looking to adopt out
http://adopt-now.com...
http://www.adoptuskids.org...
http://www.adoptawaitingchild.com...

first three sources.

Do you guys do any independent research?
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16kadams
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2/4/2012 9:58:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/4/2012 9:34:33 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 2/4/2012 9:14:36 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/4/2012 9:12:45 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 2/4/2012 8:49:22 PM, 16kadams wrote:
source?

"Our members help make a difference in the lives of thousands of children waiting to be adopted and play a key role in promoting a culture of adoption in our nation and around the world through advocacy, social networking, blogging, and sharing with others the personal impact of adoption in their lives."

https://www.adoptioncouncil.org...
http://www.acf.hhs.gov...

over 100,000 each year, granted declining, but not anywhere close to 0.

So, were is the proof for the babies that need adopting?

birth mothers looking to adopt out
http://adopt-now.com...
http://www.adoptuskids.org...
http://www.adoptawaitingchild.com...

first three sources.

Do you guys do any independent research?

yes.

basic facts about adoption: http://www.abortionfacts.com...

The number of children awaiting adoption dropped from 132,000 to 118,000 during the period 2000 to 2004
http://en.wikipedia.org...

September 30, 2010, approximately 45 percent of the children in care had been in care for less than one year, 22 percent had been in care for 1 - 2 years, 12 per cent had been in care for 2 - 3 years, 11 per cent had been in care for three - four years, and 11 percent had been in care for five years or more.
http://faq.acf.hhs.gov...

408,425 kids in foster care
http://faq.acf.hhs.gov...

only 25% of kids un-adopted every year, but 22% will get takes year 2, 12 year 3. 11% 3-4.

89% of kids are adopted before 5 years. Most get adopted you totally messed with the numbers. The rest will either get public care and education, but the majority after the 89% will get adopted.
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