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ConservativePolitico
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2/6/2012 9:50:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
He is personally my favorite President for these reasons:

- paid of national debt completely
- shrank the government
- killed the National Bank
- lived with two dueling bullets in his body (badas$)
- loved the Union
- prevented an early civil war by pacifying South Carolina in the Nullification Crisis

To me he was a true Conservative who believed in small government, didn't take sh!t from anyone and managed to pay down our debt and hold the Union together.

He was the best president we've ever had.
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2/6/2012 9:57:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/6/2012 9:50:07 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
He is personally my favorite President for these reasons:

- paid of national debt completely
- shrank the government
- killed the National Bank
- lived with two dueling bullets in his body (badas$)
- loved the Union
- prevented an early civil war by pacifying South Carolina in the Nullification Crisis

To me he was a true Conservative who believed in small government, didn't take sh!t from anyone and managed to pay down our debt and hold the Union together

While the rest can be disputed by the masses I would like to point out one thing...


He was the best president we've ever had.

WTF?!
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2/6/2012 9:58:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Add ruined the economy which put us in a long term recession... Forgot that.
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2/6/2012 10:01:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
A severe depot evasion occurred after he balanced the budget. This lasted 7 years and increased the federal debt in the long term.
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2/6/2012 10:03:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Averted a civil war? Had one occured at that time, it would have been completely his fault. He tried to declare that states were not allowed to secede, something the federal government may never prevent states from doing. (South Carolina then nullified that as well.)
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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2/6/2012 10:03:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/6/2012 10:01:13 PM, 16kadams wrote:
A severe depression occurred after he balanced the budget. This lasted 7 years and increased the federal debt in the long term.
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Fixed I think
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2/6/2012 10:04:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/6/2012 10:03:22 PM, mongoose wrote:
Averted a civil war? Had one occured at that time, it would have been completely his fault. He tried to declare that states were not allowed to secede, something the federal government may never prevent states from doing. (South Carolina then nullified that as well.)

He was against nullification.
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2/6/2012 10:07:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/6/2012 10:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 2/6/2012 10:03:22 PM, mongoose wrote:
Averted a civil war? Had one occured at that time, it would have been completely his fault. He tried to declare that states were not allowed to secede, something the federal government may never prevent states from doing. (South Carolina then nullified that as well.)

He was against nullification.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org...

That doesn't contradict anything I said.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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2/6/2012 10:08:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/6/2012 10:07:22 PM, mongoose wrote:
At 2/6/2012 10:04:47 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 2/6/2012 10:03:22 PM, mongoose wrote:
Averted a civil war? Had one occured at that time, it would have been completely his fault. He tried to declare that states were not allowed to secede, something the federal government may never prevent states from doing. (South Carolina then nullified that as well.)

He was against nullification.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org...

That doesn't contradict anything I said.

I know I just felt like saying it.
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2/6/2012 10:14:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/6/2012 10:10:09 PM, FREEDO wrote:
*cough*trail of tears*cough*

EXACTLY! I was like "WTF?"! Andrew Jackson was a nasty, nasty racist. He committed genocide against Native Americans.
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2/6/2012 10:21:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/6/2012 10:15:55 PM, Mr_Anon wrote:
You generally know something is wrong here when 16KAdams, Mongoose, and I all agree on political matters.

make that 16kadams, mongoose, Mr_Anon and Imabench....
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2/6/2012 10:33:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/6/2012 10:14:55 PM, Mr_Anon wrote:
At 2/6/2012 10:10:09 PM, FREEDO wrote:
*cough*trail of tears*cough*

EXACTLY! I was like "WTF?"! Andrew Jackson was a nasty, nasty racist. He committed genocide against Native Americans.

Hey, as a President I think he led the country well... I'm entitled to my opinion.

As for the Trail of Tears do a little research on the matter first.

He did not commit genocide for one, he moved them (inhumanely yes) but only moved them.

Second, the Georgians were getting ready to go in and move them themselves... which in my opinion would have been worse.
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2/6/2012 11:01:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/6/2012 10:33:16 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 2/6/2012 10:14:55 PM, Mr_Anon wrote:
At 2/6/2012 10:10:09 PM, FREEDO wrote:
*cough*trail of tears*cough*

EXACTLY! I was like "WTF?"! Andrew Jackson was a nasty, nasty racist. He committed genocide against Native Americans.

Hey, as a President I think he led the country well... I'm entitled to my opinion.

As for the Trail of Tears do a little research on the matter first.

He did not commit genocide for one, he moved them (inhumanely yes) but only moved them.

Second, the Georgians were getting ready to go in and move them themselves... which in my opinion would have been worse.

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2/7/2012 12:07:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/6/2012 10:21:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/6/2012 10:15:55 PM, Mr_Anon wrote:
You generally know something is wrong here when 16KAdams, Mongoose, and I all agree on political matters.

make that 16kadams, mongoose, Mr_Anon and Imabench....

make that 16kadams, mongoose, Mr_Anon, Imabench, and Viper-King....
Andrew Johnson was the one who was impeached because he believed blacks were inferior to whites...
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2/7/2012 12:58:19 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Human rights violation: Trail of Tears

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Times: 14th
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Schlesinger: 5th

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