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2/9/2012 2:27:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Ive heard so many definitions of what a New World Order is on this site alone that I dont even have a clue on what it is anymore, may someone enlighten me by simply explaining what it is? (Preferably Geo)
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2/9/2012 2:40:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
What it actually is:

"The most widely discussed application of the phrase of recent times came at the end of the Cold War. Presidents Mikhail Gorbachev and George H. W. Bush used the term to try to define the nature of the post Cold War era, and the spirit of great power cooperation that they hoped might materialize. Gorbachev's initial formulation was wide ranging and idealistic, but his ability to press for it was severely limited by the internal crisis of the Soviet system. Bush's vision was, in comparison, much more circumscribed and realistic, perhaps even instrumental at times, and closely linked to the Gulf War." -- http://en.wikipedia.org...(politics)

What conspiracy theorists believe it is:

"The New World Order is a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda, conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government—which replaces sovereign nation-states—and an all-encompassing propaganda that ideologizes its establishment as the culmination of history's progress. Significant occurrences in politics and finance are speculated to be orchestrated by an unduly influential cabal operating through many front organizations. Numerous historical and current events are seen as steps in an on-going plot to achieve world domination through secret political gatherings and decision-making processes."

http://en.wikipedia.org...(conspiracy_theory)
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2/9/2012 2:47:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
No need to ask me, just ask the people in power:

"We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."

-- David Rockefeller

"The New World Order is a world that has a supernational
authority to regulate world commerce and industry; an international
organization that would control the production and consumption of oil;
an international currency that would replace the dollar; a World
Development Fund that would make funds available to free and Communist
nations alike; and an international police force to enforce the edicts
of the New World Order."

--Former West German Chancellor

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create
a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under
the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I
do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope,
generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."

- Congressman Larry P. McDonald

"Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States
can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the
Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a
Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and
political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic elite."

-Senator William Jenner

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2/9/2012 2:48:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Also this: The term "new world order" has been used to refer to any new period of history evidencing a dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power. Despite various interpretations of this term, it is primarily associated with the ideological notion of global governance only in the sense of new collective efforts to identify, understand, or address worldwide problems that go beyond the capacity of individual nation-states to solve."

This is the most succinct summary of what it is.
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2/9/2012 2:52:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
So Geo, basically a New World Order is a select few people in power who control all of the world's markets and economies and hold a ridiculously large proportion of the worlds wealth, ridiculous being like half?
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2/9/2012 2:57:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Geo, let me ask you this: If all of these people are in a secret cabal to take over the world, why are they publically revealing their intentions?
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2/9/2012 2:59:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 2:57:03 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, let me ask you this: If all of these people are in a secret cabal to take over the world, why are they publically revealing their intentions?

I wanna know how, after generations of this, there isn't any real evidence.

No ones that good, and at least one person would have defected right?
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2/9/2012 3:00:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 2:57:03 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, let me ask you this: If all of these people are in a secret cabal to take over the world, why are they publically revealing their intentions?

the best way to hide something is right in plain view.

you should know the truth in this, it's one of the number one mafia rules :P
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2/9/2012 3:01:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 2:57:03 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, let me ask you this: If all of these people are in a secret cabal to take over the world, why are they publically revealing their intentions?

Actually they are not..........But people are starting to wake up and see this group for who they really are now. The signs are everywhere. And have met members of them before................
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2/9/2012 3:12:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 2:52:22 PM, imabench wrote:
So Geo, basically a New World Order is a select few people in power who control all of the world's markets and economies and hold a ridiculously large proportion of the worlds wealth, ridiculous being like half?

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2/9/2012 3:17:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 2:57:03 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, let me ask you this: If all of these people are in a secret cabal to take over the world, why are they publically revealing their intentions?

1. Raising the goalpost fallacy. First you ask for evidence, then when evidence is given you say "well if there is a New World Order, you shouldn't have any evidence."

2. Some of those quotes were from insiders who were defectors and against the NWO (the Senator and Congressman). Rockefeller's quote I believe was something he told the UN.

3. They don't care any more. In just the past four years they have been more blatant with their plans for a New World Order. Plus, the people are more willing to accept it.

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need
is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World
Order."
- - David Rockefeller

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2/9/2012 3:20:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 2:52:22 PM, imabench wrote:
So Geo, basically a New World Order is a select few people in power who control all of the world's markets and economies and hold a ridiculously large proportion of the worlds wealth, ridiculous being like half?

Yes, thats part of it. But people seem to always forget the psychic war, the War on Consciousness. This is the most important aspect.
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2/9/2012 3:20:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 3:12:10 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/9/2012 2:52:22 PM, imabench wrote:
So Geo, basically a New World Order is a select few people in power who control all of the world's markets and economies and hold a ridiculously large proportion of the worlds wealth, ridiculous being like half?

??

If you want some information about this. Then see my latest threads.
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2/9/2012 7:49:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 2:27:01 PM, imabench wrote:
Ive heard so many definitions of what a New World Order is on this site alone that I dont even have a clue on what it is anymore, may someone enlighten me by simply explaining what it is? (Preferably Geo)

Political Definition
Any new period of history evidencing a dramatic change in world political thought and the balance of power.

Wrestling Definition
A professional wrestling stable that originally wrestled for World Championship Wrestling (WCW).

New Age Definition
The belief that as the new Age of Aquarius unfolds, a new order of things will come into being.

Conspiracy theorist Definition
A global conspiracy designed to implement a single world government. Aspects of the government's design differs.

Literal definitions
(n) New World (the hemisphere that includes North America and South America)
(n) order (a body of rules followed by an assembly)

or

(n) New World (the hemisphere that includes North America and South America)
(n) order (a formal association of people with similar interests)

or

(n) New World (the hemisphere that includes North America and South America)
(n) order (the act of putting things in a sequential arrangement)

or

(adj) new (having no previous example or precedent or parallel)
(n) world (people in general; especially a distinctive group of people with some shared interest)
(n) order (a body of rules followed by an assembly)

or

(adj) new (having no previous example or precedent or parallel)
(n) world (people in general; especially a distinctive group of people with some shared interest)
(n) order (a formal association of people with similar interests)

or

(adj) new (having no previous example or precedent or parallel)
(n) world (people in general; especially a distinctive group of people with some shared interest)
(n) order (the act of putting things in a sequential arrangement)

or

(adj) new (having no previous example or precedent or parallel)
(n) world (all of the living human inhabitants of the earth)
(n) order (a body of rules followed by an assembly)

or

(adj) new (having no previous example or precedent or parallel)
(n) world (all of the living human inhabitants of the earth)
(n) order (a formal association of people with similar interests)

or

(adj) new (having no previous example or precedent or parallel)
(n) world (all of the living human inhabitants of the earth)
(n) order (the act of putting things in a sequential arrangement)
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2/9/2012 7:55:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 7:53:55 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, do you know where I can find my local Illuminati safehouse? I would like to join the ranks of the New World Order.

Find your local Freemason lodge, then try to work your way up to 33rd degree or higher.
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2/9/2012 7:56:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 7:53:55 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, do you know where I can find my local Illuminati safehouse? I would like to join the ranks of the New World Order.

I'm already a mind slave... I can put in a good word for you if you want.
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2/9/2012 7:59:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 7:56:18 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:53:55 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, do you know where I can find my local Illuminati safehouse? I would like to join the ranks of the New World Order.

I'm already a mind slave... I can put in a good word for you if you want.

Please do. I would love to become the ultimate mindless drone.
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2/9/2012 8:02:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 7:55:28 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:53:55 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, do you know where I can find my local Illuminati safehouse? I would like to join the ranks of the New World Order.

Find your local Freemason lodge, then try to work your way up to 33rd degree or higher.

They won't let you in though, fyi. You can't really work your way into. You have to be a predominant figure in the world and then maybe they'll contact you. See Jay Z.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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2/9/2012 8:03:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 7:59:02 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:56:18 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:53:55 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, do you know where I can find my local Illuminati safehouse? I would like to join the ranks of the New World Order.

I'm already a mind slave... I can put in a good word for you if you want.

Please do. I would love to become the ultimate mindless drone.

Next time my orders (that I don't hear or remember) come in, I'll send a reverse signal showing my approval for your willingness to serve the new collective NWO.

A position as a drone correct?
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2/9/2012 8:04:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 8:02:13 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:55:28 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:53:55 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, do you know where I can find my local Illuminati safehouse? I would like to join the ranks of the New World Order.

Find your local Freemason lodge, then try to work your way up to 33rd degree or higher.

They won't let you in though, fyi. You can't really work your way into. You have to be a predominant figure in the world and then maybe they'll contact you. See Jay Z.

So, in order to join an organization that produces the world's dominant figures, one must be a dominant figure. That sounds utterly idiotic to me.
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2/9/2012 8:06:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 8:04:04 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/9/2012 8:02:13 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:55:28 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:53:55 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, do you know where I can find my local Illuminati safehouse? I would like to join the ranks of the New World Order.

Find your local Freemason lodge, then try to work your way up to 33rd degree or higher.

They won't let you in though, fyi. You can't really work your way into. You have to be a predominant figure in the world and then maybe they'll contact you. See Jay Z.

So, in order to join an organization that produces the world's dominant figures, one must be a dominant figure. That sounds utterly idiotic to me.

It only makes sense if your on the inside like Geo and Inferno...

OMG we're probably talking to the leader of China and the owner of the European Central bank!
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2/9/2012 11:19:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 8:06:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 2/9/2012 8:04:04 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/9/2012 8:02:13 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:55:28 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:53:55 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, do you know where I can find my local Illuminati safehouse? I would like to join the ranks of the New World Order.

Find your local Freemason lodge, then try to work your way up to 33rd degree or higher.

They won't let you in though, fyi. You can't really work your way into. You have to be a predominant figure in the world and then maybe they'll contact you. See Jay Z.

So, in order to join an organization that produces the world's dominant figures, one must be a dominant figure. That sounds utterly idiotic to me.

It only makes sense if your on the inside like Geo and Inferno...

OMG we're probably talking to the leader of China and the owner of the European Central bank!
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2/9/2012 11:37:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 8:02:13 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
They won't let you in though, fyi. You can't really work your way into. You have to be a predominant figure in the world and then maybe they'll contact you. See Jay Z.

You contradicted yourself here.
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2/10/2012 12:16:54 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 11:37:48 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 2/9/2012 8:02:13 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
They won't let you in though, fyi. You can't really work your way into. You have to be a predominant figure in the world and then maybe they'll contact you. See Jay Z.

You contradicted yourself here.

I said theoretically she could join the Freemasons, but it's impossible to get to 33rd in many cases for normal people. So no, it wasnt a contradiction
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2/10/2012 12:22:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/9/2012 8:04:04 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/9/2012 8:02:13 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:55:28 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 7:53:55 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Geo, do you know where I can find my local Illuminati safehouse? I would like to join the ranks of the New World Order.

Find your local Freemason lodge, then try to work your way up to 33rd degree or higher.

They won't let you in though, fyi. You can't really work your way into. You have to be a predominant figure in the world and then maybe they'll contact you. See Jay Z.

So, in order to join an organization that produces the world's dominant figures, one must be a dominant figure. That sounds utterly idiotic to me.

You dont get it. The Illuminati consists of royal bloodlines, banker family bloodlines, and people who share their ideological views and goals. Obviously you cant make yourself a family member, but if you become successful enough in life, you'll probably come in contact with the Illuminati. They always try to recruit the successful probably so they dont have powerful opposition.

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"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
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2/10/2012 12:29:50 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/10/2012 12:16:54 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 11:37:48 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 2/9/2012 8:02:13 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
They won't let you in though, fyi. You can't really work your way into. You have to be a predominant figure in the world and then maybe they'll contact you. See Jay Z.

You contradicted yourself here.

I said theoretically she could join the Freemasons, but it's impossible to get to 33rd in many cases for normal people. So no, it wasnt a contradiction

Well, you said that you "can't work your way into" it. But then you say you can join if you're a predominent world figure, and then for some reason that I can't fathom, said Jay Z.

But the fact is, if you've worked to become a predominant individual in the world, then you've "worked" your way into the whole group, haven't you.

So really, you can work your way into the NWO.

So you sort of contradicted yourself.
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2/10/2012 12:34:02 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/10/2012 12:29:50 AM, Volkov wrote:
At 2/10/2012 12:16:54 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 2/9/2012 11:37:48 PM, Volkov wrote:
At 2/9/2012 8:02:13 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
They won't let you in though, fyi. You can't really work your way into. You have to be a predominant figure in the world and then maybe they'll contact you. See Jay Z.

You contradicted yourself here.

I said theoretically she could join the Freemasons, but it's impossible to get to 33rd in many cases for normal people. So no, it wasnt a contradiction

Well, you said that you "can't work your way into" it. But then you say you can join if you're a predominent world figure, and then for some reason that I can't fathom, said Jay Z.

But the fact is, if you've worked to become a predominant individual in the world, then you've "worked" your way into the whole group, haven't you.

So really, you can work your way into the NWO.

So you sort of contradicted yourself.

No. It's invitation only. Working really hard can get you famous and rich, but you don't get an automatic membership to the Illuminati.

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2/10/2012 12:35:12 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/10/2012 12:34:02 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
No. It's invitation only. Working really hard can get you famous and rich, but you don't get an automatic membership to the Illuminati.

... but it can get you an invitation, no?