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2/17/2012 6:51:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?

Well according to Republicans if we don't spend trillions on bombs guns and other sh.it that's for killing people the country will go to hell
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2/17/2012 6:59:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Imperialistic conquest.
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2/17/2012 7:16:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 6:51:54 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?

Well according to Republicans if we don't spend trillions on bombs guns and other sh.it that's for killing people the country will go to hell

And alas, democrats too.
Starcraftzzz
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2/17/2012 7:23:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 7:16:34 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 2/17/2012 6:51:54 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?

Well according to Republicans if we don't spend trillions on bombs guns and other sh.it that's for killing people the country will go to hell

And alas, democrats too.
Democrats and Ron paul are the only ones who actually want to cut military spending;
this is evident in that republicans all objected to obama cutting military spending
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2/17/2012 7:25:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 7:23:44 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/17/2012 7:16:34 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 2/17/2012 6:51:54 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?

Well according to Republicans if we don't spend trillions on bombs guns and other sh.it that's for killing people the country will go to hell

And alas, democrats too.
Democrats and Ron paul are the only ones who actually want to cut military spending;
this is evident in that republicans all objected to obama cutting military spending

We do not want to increase it, we want to freeze it in place. Also, we only prepare for the last war. If we cut it I hope you enjoy russias reign.
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Starcraftzzz
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2/17/2012 8:11:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 7:25:35 PM, 16kadams wrote:
We do not want to increase it, we want to freeze it in place.
Maybe you dont but the republicans you elect want to
At 2/17/2012 7:25:35 PM, 16kadams wrote:
Also, we only prepare for the last war.
The cold war ended long ago.
At 2/17/2012 7:25:35 PM, 16kadams wrote:
If we cut it I hope you enjoy russias reign.
See like I said you're all against government spending when it goes to education, retirement, health care, and helping people but when it comes to making more bombs of which we have enough to blow up the world 7 times over you claim it will result in the end of the world.
Second Russia currently only spends 53 billion on its military while America spends around 750billion. If we cut our military spending by250billion we'd still be spending 10times more the Russia. So explain how spending 10times more then Russia will result in Russia conquering America.
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2/17/2012 8:15:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
War is used when diplomacy breaks down and in order to achieve security, future prosperity and peace for the future people will act aggressively in order to protect themselves.

In some situations it is the only option once diplomacy breaks down.
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2/17/2012 8:17:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 8:15:55 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
War is used when diplomacy breaks down and in order to achieve security, future prosperity and peace for the future people will act aggressively in order to protect themselves.

In some situations it is the only option once diplomacy breaks down.

I agree.
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2/17/2012 8:18:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 8:17:17 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/17/2012 8:15:55 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
War is used when diplomacy breaks down and in order to achieve security, future prosperity and peace for the future people will act aggressively in order to protect themselves.

In some situations it is the only option once diplomacy breaks down.

I agree.

O:

Did I read that right?
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2/17/2012 8:19:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
War is good for pissing people off.

No matter what your view on it, you must concede that is true.
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2/17/2012 8:20:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?

Killing soldiers. But it is necessary occasionally. Getting into WWII was necesary for an example.
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2/17/2012 8:20:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 8:19:29 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
War is good for pissing people off.

No matter what your view on it, you must concede that is true.

...

War pisses people off but the goal of a war is never to just piss people off.
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2/17/2012 8:37:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?

War is good for allot of things.
War creates jobs, public and private sector
Wars prevents attacks on US soil; bring the war to the enemy so they don't bring it to us
War protects the rights of citizens, like the war of 1812
War ends tyranny, such as the us revolution, WWII, and operation Iraqi freedom
War protects friendly nations
War protects our economy, through protecting trade partners
War is a necessary evil
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2/17/2012 8:40:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 8:37:23 PM, DanT wrote:
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?

War is good for allot of things.
War creates jobs, public and private sector
Wars prevents attacks on US soil; bring the war to the enemy so they don't bring it to us
War protects the rights of citizens, like the war of 1812
War ends tyranny, such as the us revolution, WWII, and operation Iraqi freedom
War protects friendly nations
War protects our economy, through protecting trade partners
: War is a necessary evil

100% agree.

I don't understand the people who say war is completely unjustifiable. It just isn't realistic.
Lasagna
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2/17/2012 9:05:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing. Come on, nobody's ever heard that song?

Anyway, war is simply the result of a nation of citizens pursuing luxury. Most people wrongly believe it is a function of diplomacy or aggression, or that it is a "necessary evil..." If you think war is a necessary evil, then I might as well just kill you, logically speaking :P
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2/17/2012 9:13:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?
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2/17/2012 9:51:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?

Governments that are worse than yours. It's good to make war on those. It kills their soldiers, tax base, etc.
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2/17/2012 9:57:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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WHAT BOTHERS YOU, MAL? YOU DON'T SOUND WELL.

"I am filled with fear and tormented with terrible visions of pain. Everywhere people are hurting one another, the planet is rampant with injustices, whole societies plunder groups of their own people, mothers imprison sons, children perish while brothers war. O, woe."

WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THAT, IF IT IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO?

"But nobody Wants it! Everybody hates it."

OH. WELL, THEN STOP.

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2/17/2012 9:59:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I don't really dwell on things of that nature.

War is.
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2/17/2012 10:02:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
There would be no war if there was no government. But there will ALWAYS be government somewhere in the world. And as long as so much as one government manipulates 100,000 men, war will occur in this world.

Therefore war is inevitable.
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2/17/2012 10:05:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?

People like me, who fight off thousands of aliens on a daily basis.

I mean, if there was no war, I would just be some totally awesome person that stole the chicks from everyone!
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2/17/2012 10:05:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 10:02:13 PM, 000ike wrote:
There would be no war if there was no government. But there will ALWAYS be government somewhere in the world. And as long as so much as one government manipulates 100,000 men, war will occur in this world.

Therefore war is inevitable.

Actually, war doesn't require government. It just requires two groups of people.
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ConservativePolitico
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2/17/2012 10:43:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 10:05:51 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/17/2012 10:02:13 PM, 000ike wrote:
There would be no war if there was no government. But there will ALWAYS be government somewhere in the world. And as long as so much as one government manipulates 100,000 men, war will occur in this world.

Therefore war is inevitable.

Actually, war doesn't require government. It just requires two groups of people.

Yeah tribes and war groups fight in Africa all the time.

The US is currently fighting a "war" on "terrorism" but are not at war with any particular government entity but rather a group of people.
logicrules
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2/18/2012 8:37:02 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?

Evolution. It is part of human natural selection. Also, makes a good lyric.
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2/18/2012 5:02:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 10:43:29 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 2/17/2012 10:05:51 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/17/2012 10:02:13 PM, 000ike wrote:
There would be no war if there was no government. But there will ALWAYS be government somewhere in the world. And as long as so much as one government manipulates 100,000 men, war will occur in this world.

Therefore war is inevitable.

Actually, war doesn't require government. It just requires two groups of people.

Yeah tribes and war groups fight in Africa all the time.

The US is currently fighting a "war" on "terrorism" but are not at war with any particular government entity but rather a group of people.
Correct. Another example of war without government is gang wars.
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2/18/2012 5:14:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 9:05:36 PM, Lasagna wrote:
At 2/17/2012 6:39:14 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
What is it good for?
Absolutely nothing. Come on, nobody's ever heard that song?

Anyway, war is simply the result of a nation of citizens pursuing luxury. Most people wrongly believe it is a function of diplomacy or aggression, or that it is a "necessary evil..."

So what you are saying is that every nation should have gave Nazi Germany what they wanted, rather than war; even when they started invading other nations?

"Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other. Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the present one. In practice, 'he that is not with me is against me'." ~ George Orwell

If you think war is a necessary evil, then I might as well just kill you, logically speaking :P

That wouldn't be a war, that would be murder.
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2/18/2012 5:19:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 10:05:51 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/17/2012 10:02:13 PM, 000ike wrote:
There would be no war if there was no government. But there will ALWAYS be government somewhere in the world. And as long as so much as one government manipulates 100,000 men, war will occur in this world.

Therefore war is inevitable.

Actually, war doesn't require government. It just requires two groups of people.

War (mass noun) a state of armed conflict between different countries or different groups within a country
War (count noun) a state of competition or hostility between different people or groups
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2/18/2012 5:22:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/17/2012 10:02:13 PM, 000ike wrote:
There would be no war if there was no government. But there will ALWAYS be government somewhere in the world. And as long as so much as one government manipulates 100,000 men, war will occur in this world.

Therefore war is inevitable.

chimps have governments?
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