Total Posts:44|Showing Posts:1-30|Last Page
Jump to topic:

Etymology or political -isms

DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers

Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
Contra
Posts: 3,941
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/20/2012 12:32:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Good analogy.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/23/2012 8:18:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/20/2012 12:32:32 PM, Contra wrote:
Good analogy.

An analogy is a comparison between two things for the purpose of clarification.
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
Contra
Posts: 3,941
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 12:17:53 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 8:18:13 PM, DanT wrote:
At 2/20/2012 12:32:32 PM, Contra wrote:
Good analogy.

An analogy is a comparison between two things for the purpose of clarification.

Mess up then.

Good comparison.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
FREEDO
Posts: 21,057
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 12:35:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
This is analogy:

ANARCHISM You have two cows. The cows decide you have no right to do anything with their milk and leave to form their own society.

ANARCHISM You have two cows. You steal your neighbor's bull and ignore the government.

ANARCHISM You have two cows. You keep the cows and steal another one. You ignore the government.

ANARCHISM You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to take the cows and kill you.

ANARCHISM You have two cows. Your neighbor hits you over the head with a brick, steals your cows, then shoots them for fun. You later discover that he is a Nazi.

ARISTOCRATISM You have two cows. You sell both and buy one really big cow – with a pedigree.

ARTIST — VISUAL You have two cows. You stuff them and put them in glass display boxes. In London.

AUSTRALIANISM You have two cows. You take one to the beach and teach it to surf, then you bung the other one on the barbie, drink some VB, and laugh at the idea of a surfing cow. (from Hannah and Gen)

BAHRAINISM You have two cows. Some high government official steals one, milks it, sells the milk and pockets the profit. The government tells you there is just one cow and not enough milk for the people. The people riot and scream death to the government and carry Iranian flags. The Parliament, after thinking for 11 months, decides to employ ten Bahrainis to milk all the cows at the same time to cut back on unemployment.

BITCHISM You're a cow! (from Hannah and Gen))

BRITISH You have two cows. They are crazy. You try to sell them in Europe.

BRITISH — MAJOR You have two cows. One has BSE. You get a vet to give the other one the all clear, and then declare there is no problem from BSE in your country.

BUREAUCRACY You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.

BUREAUCRACY You have two cows. To register them, you fill in 17 forms in triplicate and don't have time to milk them.

BUREAUCRACY — EUROPEAN UNION You have two cows. The EU loses one cow, milks the other and then spills the milk.

BUREAUCRACY — UNITED STATES You have two cows. The government takes both, loses one while moving it to a farm in Puerto Rico and forgets to milk the other.

CANADIANISM You have two cows. The bank takes both of them, shoots one, throws away the milk and you shoot yourself.

CAPITALISM You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

CAPITALISM — AMERICAN You have two cows. You sell one of them, and buy a bull. The cow and bull have a great love life; you sell the movie rights to Hollywood. Then you go into real estate.

CAPITALISM — HONG KONG You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly listed company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the bank, then execute a debt / equity swap with associated general offer so that you get all four cows back, with a tax deduction for keeping five cows. The milk rights of six cows are transferred via a Panamanian intermediary to a Cayman Islands company secretly owned by the majority shareholder, who sells the rights to all seven cows' milk back to the listed company. The annual report says that the company owns eight cows, with an option on one more. Meanwhile, you kill the two cows because the feng shui is bad.

CENTRALISM You have two cows. And a problem finding them in the middle of the field with 100,000,000 other cows.

CONSERVATIVISM You have two cows. You freeze the milk and embalm the cows.

CONSERVATIVISM You have two cows. You lock them up, and charge people to look at them..

COMMUNISM You have two cows. The government takes both of them and gives you part of the milk.

COMMUNISM You have two cows. The government takes both cows. The government sells the milk in government stores. You can't afford the milk. You wither away.

COMMUNISM You have two cows. The state takes both, and gives you a little milk … once.

COMMUNISM You have two cows. The government takes both and gives you spoiled milk.

COMMUNISM — CAMBODIAN You have two cows. The government takes both and shoots you.

COMMUNISM — CAMBODIAN You have two cows. The government sends a teenager in a red bandana to shoot them, then he shoots you.

COMMUNISM — CHINESE You don't have any cows. The government sets up a joint venture with McDonald's.

COMMUNISM — CHINESE You have two cows. You take care of them. The government takes all the milk, but you are encouraged to steal some of it back (before someone else does).

COMMUNISM — CHINESE – MAO STYLE You have two pigs. The government launches a campaign to convince you to donate them "voluntarily" to provide meat for workers in the city. The government then declares that people don't need pigs to make pork. Quoting the correct phrases from your little red book, you and your neighbors try to create pork from sheer willpower. Your local party leader reports that you have exceeded all expectations. Your neighbors starve.

COMMUNISM — CUBAN – CASTRO STYLE Fidel Castro has two cows. They are F1′s, a cross between the Cebu cow and the Holstein cow. Only one cow, "White Udder," works. When she dies she is stuffed and placed in a museum by Castro, "The Dictator of the Cows," where "future generations could admire her magnificent udders." You have not seen cow milk since 1985.

COMMUNISM — CUBAN You have two cows. Fidel tells you some undercover CIA agents have infected all of the cows in your region with a foreign disease that kills the cows. You and your family become malnourished. It begins to occur to you that Fidel doesn't know what he is talking about.

COMMUNISM — CUBAN You no longer have any cows. They sailed to Miami. You still have no milk – but you do have Fidel.

COMMUNISM — "PURE" You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

COMMUNISM — "PURE" You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk. Well, maybe the local bully gets more, or a few neighbors band together to kill you so that there is more milk for everyone else.

COMMUNISM — SOVIET You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk. Then the government sends you to prison.

COMMUNISM — SOVIET You have two cows. You count them and realize you have four cows. You drink more Vodka. You count the cows again and realize you have eleventy six cows. You drink even more Vodka. After a while, you realize that eleventy isn't a real number. You count the cows again and have two cows. You open another bottle of Vodka and try to drown the loss of eleventy four cows.

DARWINISM You have two cows. They develop opposable thumbs and milk you. (from Patrick)

DEMOCRACY You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

DEMOCRACY You have two cows. A vote is held, and the cows win.

DEMOCRACY You have two cows. They outvote you 2-1 to ban all meat and dairy products. You go bankrupt.

DEMOCRACY — AMERICAN You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk and then blame Japan while border guards beat up Mexicans sneaking into the country. People are outraged for a week or so and then go back to televised sports where there's no violence.
GRAND POOBAH OF DDO

fnord
FREEDO
Posts: 21,057
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 12:35:48 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
DEMOCRACY — AMERICAN (a republic) You have two cows. The government exercises those powers delegated to it by the people, who are sovereign. The majority does not rule because the people and their representatives (elected, appointed and employed) are constrained by various checks and balances, including the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, the three co-equal branches of government, and the 50 state republics (see, e.g., Article IV, section 4). So what the government does with your cows and with the milk from those cows depends on the interaction between the people and the checks and balances mentioned above.

DEMOCRACY — BRITISH You have two cows. You feed them sheep's brains and they go mad. The government doesn't do anything.

DEMOCRACY — REPRESENTATIVE You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

DICTATORSHIP You have two cows. The government takes both cows and drafts you.

DRMISM You have two cows. You sell both of them, but all the milk still belongs to you.

DUBAISM You have two cows. You create a website for them and advertise them in all magazines. You create a Cow City or Milk Town for them. You sell off their milk before the cows have even been milked to both legitimate and shady investors who hope to resell the non-existent milk for a 100% profit in two years' time. You bring Tiger Woods to milk the cows first to attract attention.

EGYPTIANISM You have two cows. Both are voting for Moooooobarak!

EUROPEAN UNIONISM You have two goats. The EU declares them to be fruit in order to conform to a rare Belgian custom of making Cow Jam (jam being required to have at least 45% fruit).

EUROPEAN UNIONISM You have two cows. The EU develops a quota system that "limits the gas emissions from flatulent cows." You sell your carbon allotment, not the milk.

FASCISM You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them, and sells you the milk.

FASCISM You have two cows. You give the milk to the government and the government sells it.

FASCISM You have two cows. The government takes one away and presses it into military service.

FEUDALISM You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

FRISBEETARIANISM You have two cows. One of them flies up on the roof and gets stuck. You hope the government provides cow ladders.

IDEALISM You have two cows. You get married and your partner milks them.

INDIANISM You have two cows, that you revere. But they end up in Bangladesh as steaks. So you outlaw cattle exports, announce a cow-licensing system and issue cows with photo IDs. Unfortunately, many conclude that India can not stop this illegal moogration because "beef is very delicious."

INDUSTRIALISM You have two cows. You dissect them both and figure out how to build a milk-factory instead.

INNOVATIONISM You have two cows. You patent "cow" and claim license fees from all the milk of the world. ("All your milk are belong to us.")

IRAQISM The British Government sends in a herd of 20 cows in a trial run to help a village outside Basra. The villagers are extremely grateful for the extra milk and the health of the children improves daily. A terrorist group then kidnaps the cows and accuses them of being traitors to "the cause." The terrorists then produce signed confessions from the cows and systematically assassinates each one in front of Al Jazeera television cameras.

KUWAITISM Upon hearing how popular cows are in the Gulf region, a group of young male Kuwaitis buy a herd. Unfortunately, they attach so many accessories (ski-racks, 3500 watt sub-woofers, nipple lights, etc.) that the cows almost collapse under the weight and/or embarrassment. The herd are all tragically killed in a massive pile-up while their owners are attempting to perform donuts by the Towers..

LEBANONISM You have two cows. One is owned by Syria and the other is controlled by the government.

LIBERALISM You have two cows. You sell both to the rich. The government then taxes the rich one cow and gives it to the poor.

LIBERALISM You have two cows. You give away one cow and get the government to give you a new cow. Then you give them both away.

LIBERTARIANISM You have two cows. You let them do what they want.

LIBERTARIANISM Go away. What I do with my cows is none of your business.

MARXISM/LENINISM The proletarian cows unite and overthrow the bourgeoisie cowherds. The egalitarian democratic cow revolutionary state with the cow party as vanguard disintegrate over time. Marx choked on a veggie-burger before he could explain what happens to the use-value, exchange-value and sign-value of bovine leather.

NAZISM You have two cows. The government takes both and then shoots you.

NEW DEALISM You have two cows. The government takes both, shoots one, milks the other, and pours the milk down the sink. The government insists there is a giant storage tank where all the milk goes.

OMANISM You have three cows. They are all healthy and produce good quality milk for sale at the market. Unfortunately, your son discovers that the money he received at the market can be used to buy beer. Your grand expansion plans for a new high-tech farm are put on hold indefinitely.

PACIFISM You have two cows. They stampede you.
GRAND POOBAH OF DDO

fnord
FREEDO
Posts: 21,057
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 12:36:10 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
PEROTISM You have two cows. You aren't allowed to sell the milk to Mexico..

PLATONISM You have two cows. You look for two other cows to milk.

PLATONISM You have a reflection of two perfect cows. Their milk tastes like water. You look for two real cows to milk.

POLITICAL CORRECTNESSISM You are associated with (the concept of "ownership" is a symbol of the phallocentric, warmongering, intolerant past) two differently aged (but no less valuable to society) bovines of nonspecified gender.

PROTECTIONISM You have two cows. You can't buy a bull from another country.

QATARISM You have two cows. They've been sitting there for decades and no one realizes that cows can produce milk. You see what Dubai is doing, you go crazy and start milking the heck out of the cows in the shortest time possible. Then you realize no one wanted the milk in the first place.

REGINA MAYERISM You want a horse, but your parents say no. You do have a cow, so you train the cow to think she's a horse. (Story here and here.)

REDISTRIBUTIONISM You have two cows. Everyone should have the same amount of cow. The government takes both cows, cuts them up, and spends more than the cows are worth giving everyone a little piece of cow.

SAUDIISM You have two cows. Since milking the cow involves nipples, the government decides to ban all cows in public. The only method to milk a cow is to have a cow on one side of a curtain and a guy milking the cow on the other side.

SIMPSONISM Don't have a cow man!!

SOCIALISM You have two cows. The government takes one of them and gives it to your neighbor.

SOCIALISM — BUREAUCRATIC You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and eggs as the regulations say you should need.

SOCIALISM — PURE You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.

SOCRATIC METHODISM How many cows do I have? Why?

SURREALISM You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.

SURREALISM You have two aardvarks. The government paints one green and requires you to take harmonica lessons.

TALIBANISM You have two cows. At first, the government makes them wear burkas, but later shoots them because "they are Hindu religious symbols."

TWO PARTY BiCAMERALISM You have two cows. The government takes them both. The government sells the first one and deposits the money in reelection campaign accounts. The government sends the second cow to China. The third cow is used as collateral on a loan to make interest payments on the national debt. The fourth cow is divided among all the citizens as an economic stimulus. (from Duane M.)

UNITED NATIONISM You have two cows. France vetoes you from milking them. The United States and Britain veto the cows from milking you. New Zealand abstains.

WIKIPEDIANISM These cows are temporarily protected from milking. Please resolve disputes on the talk page. Protection is not intended to express support of German or Polish cows. (from Bill)

WIKIPEDIANISM This cow is a heifer. You can help Wikipedia by milking it. (from Bill)

YEMENISM You once had a cow. But then it got kidnapped.
GRAND POOBAH OF DDO

fnord
OMGJustinBieber
Posts: 3,484
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 12:43:47 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM, DanT wrote:
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers


Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 

Where are these definitions from? Did you just create them on the spot? Where are these prounciations from?

Some of these definitions would appear to be insufficient in terms of how the terms have been described in the past. I don't know, it seems like OP is intensely interested in definitions. OP should read Wittgenstein.
logicrules
Posts: 1,721
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 6:25:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM, DanT wrote:
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers


Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 

LOL goofy.
DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 8:34:14 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/24/2012 12:43:47 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM, DanT wrote:
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers


Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 

Where are these definitions from?

It's the Etymology

Did you just create them on the spot?

No I did not.

http://www.etymonline.com...
www.wiktionary.org/

Where are these prounciations from?

a pronunciation is the manner in which someone utters a word


Some of these definitions would appear to be insufficient in terms of how the terms have been described in the past. I don't know, it seems like OP is intensely interested in definitions. OP should read Wittgenstein.

Etymology
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
logicrules
Posts: 1,721
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 9:37:45 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/24/2012 8:34:14 AM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 12:43:47 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM, DanT wrote:
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers


Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 

Where are these definitions from?

It's the Etymology

Did you just create them on the spot?

No I did not.

http://www.etymonline.com...
www.wiktionary.org/

Where are these prounciations from?

a pronunciation is the manner in which someone utters a word


Some of these definitions would appear to be insufficient in terms of how the terms have been described in the past. I don't know, it seems like OP is intensely interested in definitions. OP should read Wittgenstein.

Etymology

LOL from the Greek ethos, it isnt etymology. You do just make it up. Th etymology of a term only concerns itself with the origin of the word. Sincere from the latiin sine cera meaning without wax. Methinks you are not with yourself sincere.
OMGJustinBieber
Posts: 3,484
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 11:22:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/24/2012 8:34:14 AM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 12:43:47 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM, DanT wrote:
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers


Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 

Where are these definitions from?

It's the Etymology

Did you just create them on the spot?

No I did not.

http://www.etymonline.com...
www.wiktionary.org/

Where are these prounciations from?

a pronunciation is the manner in which someone utters a word


Some of these definitions would appear to be insufficient in terms of how the terms have been described in the past. I don't know, it seems like OP is intensely interested in definitions. OP should read Wittgenstein.

Etymology

Show me where you found the fascism etymology. It's clearly not from either the etymology site or the wiktionary one. It just seems to be your interpretation of the etymology.
DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 4:15:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/24/2012 11:22:08 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/24/2012 8:34:14 AM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 12:43:47 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM, DanT wrote:
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers


Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 

Where are these definitions from?

It's the Etymology

Did you just create them on the spot?

No I did not.

http://www.etymonline.com...
www.wiktionary.org/

Where are these prounciations from?

a pronunciation is the manner in which someone utters a word


Some of these definitions would appear to be insufficient in terms of how the terms have been described in the past. I don't know, it seems like OP is intensely interested in definitions. OP should read Wittgenstein.

Etymology

Show me where you found the fascism etymology. It's clearly not from either the etymology site or the wiktionary one. It just seems to be your interpretation of the etymology.

"Fascism
Etymology
From Italian fascismo, from fascio"
http://en.wiktionary.org...

"Fascio
Etymology
From Latin fascis.
Noun
fascio m (plural fasci)
1.bundle (of wood)
2.sheaf (of hay)
3.bunch (of flowers)
4.beam (of light)
5.fasces (especially in plural)
6.fascism
7.(slang) a fascist
8.(mathematics) sheaf
9.(anatomy) fasciculus, bundle"
http://en.wiktionary.org...

"Fascis
Noun
fascis (genitive fascis); m, third declension
1.A fag0t, fascine; bundle, packet, package, parcel.
2.A burden, load.
3.(usually in plural) A bundle carried by lictors before the highest magistrates, consisting of rods and an axe, with which criminals were scourged and beheaded.
4.A high office, like the consulship."
http://en.wiktionary.org...
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
OMGJustinBieber
Posts: 3,484
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 4:16:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/24/2012 4:15:13 PM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 11:22:08 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/24/2012 8:34:14 AM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 12:43:47 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM, DanT wrote:
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers


Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 

Where are these definitions from?

It's the Etymology

Did you just create them on the spot?

No I did not.

http://www.etymonline.com...
www.wiktionary.org/

Where are these prounciations from?

a pronunciation is the manner in which someone utters a word


Some of these definitions would appear to be insufficient in terms of how the terms have been described in the past. I don't know, it seems like OP is intensely interested in definitions. OP should read Wittgenstein.

Etymology

Show me where you found the fascism etymology. It's clearly not from either the etymology site or the wiktionary one. It just seems to be your interpretation of the etymology.

"Fascism
Etymology
From Italian fascismo, from fascio"
http://en.wiktionary.org...

"Fascio
Etymology
From Latin fascis.
Noun
fascio m (plural fasci)
1.bundle (of wood)
2.sheaf (of hay)
3.bunch (of flowers)
4.beam (of light)
5.fasces (especially in plural)
6.fascism
7.(slang) a fascist
8.(mathematics) sheaf
9.(anatomy) fasciculus, bundle"
http://en.wiktionary.org...

"Fascis
Noun
fascis (genitive fascis); m, third declension
1.A fag0t, fascine; bundle, packet, package, parcel.
2.A burden, load.
3.(usually in plural) A bundle carried by lictors before the highest magistrates, consisting of rods and an axe, with which criminals were scourged and beheaded.
4.A high office, like the consulship."
http://en.wiktionary.org...

Where does it say anything about government collectivism?
DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 4:46:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/24/2012 4:16:55 PM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/24/2012 4:15:13 PM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 11:22:08 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/24/2012 8:34:14 AM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 12:43:47 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM, DanT wrote:
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers


Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 

Where are these definitions from?

It's the Etymology

Did you just create them on the spot?

No I did not.

http://www.etymonline.com...
www.wiktionary.org/

Where are these prounciations from?

a pronunciation is the manner in which someone utters a word


Some of these definitions would appear to be insufficient in terms of how the terms have been described in the past. I don't know, it seems like OP is intensely interested in definitions. OP should read Wittgenstein.

Etymology

Show me where you found the fascism etymology. It's clearly not from either the etymology site or the wiktionary one. It just seems to be your interpretation of the etymology.

"Fascism
Etymology
From Italian fascismo, from fascio"
http://en.wiktionary.org...

"Fascio
Etymology
From Latin fascis.
Noun
fascio m (plural fasci)
1.bundle (of wood)
2.sheaf (of hay)
3.bunch (of flowers)
4.beam (of light)
5.fasces (especially in plural)
6.fascism
7.(slang) a fascist
8.(mathematics) sheaf
9.(anatomy) fasciculus, bundle"
http://en.wiktionary.org...

"Fascis
Noun
fascis (genitive fascis); m, third declension
1.A fag0t, fascine; bundle, packet, package, parcel.
2.A burden, load.
3.(usually in plural) A bundle carried by lictors before the highest magistrates, consisting of rods and an axe, with which criminals were scourged and beheaded.
4.A high office, like the consulship."
http://en.wiktionary.org...

Where does it say anything about government collectivism?

fascis means a bundle, or packet, or a load. It also refers to a symbol of authority. It also means a high office.

mussolini said he chose the word fascio because he wanted to portray a unity of nationalists, thus he chose it both for the bundle (collective) defintion and the high office defintion.
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 5:09:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/24/2012 4:52:29 PM, logicrules wrote:
I think DanT just makes stuff up and then convince himself its insightful.

youre just a troll, no one cares what you think
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
OMGJustinBieber
Posts: 3,484
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/24/2012 7:12:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/24/2012 4:46:28 PM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 4:16:55 PM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/24/2012 4:15:13 PM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 11:22:08 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/24/2012 8:34:14 AM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 12:43:47 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM, DanT wrote:
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers


Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 

Where are these definitions from?

It's the Etymology

Did you just create them on the spot?

No I did not.

http://www.etymonline.com...
www.wiktionary.org/

Where are these prounciations from?

a pronunciation is the manner in which someone utters a word


Some of these definitions would appear to be insufficient in terms of how the terms have been described in the past. I don't know, it seems like OP is intensely interested in definitions. OP should read Wittgenstein.

Etymology

Show me where you found the fascism etymology. It's clearly not from either the etymology site or the wiktionary one. It just seems to be your interpretation of the etymology.

"Fascism
Etymology
From Italian fascismo, from fascio"
http://en.wiktionary.org...

"Fascio
Etymology
From Latin fascis.
Noun
fascio m (plural fasci)
1.bundle (of wood)
2.sheaf (of hay)
3.bunch (of flowers)
4.beam (of light)
5.fasces (especially in plural)
6.fascism
7.(slang) a fascist
8.(mathematics) sheaf
9.(anatomy) fasciculus, bundle"
http://en.wiktionary.org...

"Fascis
Noun
fascis (genitive fascis); m, third declension
1.A fag0t, fascine; bundle, packet, package, parcel.
2.A burden, load.
3.(usually in plural) A bundle carried by lictors before the highest magistrates, consisting of rods and an axe, with which criminals were scourged and beheaded.
4.A high office, like the consulship."
http://en.wiktionary.org...

Where does it say anything about government collectivism?

fascis means a bundle, or packet, or a load. It also refers to a symbol of authority. It also means a high office.

mussolini said he chose the word fascio because he wanted to portray a unity of nationalists, thus he chose it both for the bundle (collective) defintion and the high office defintion.

If you want to play around with words and invent your own definitions then by all means do so, but if you were looking at us to accept or validate them I don't think that's happening.
DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/25/2012 8:08:13 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/24/2012 9:37:45 AM, logicrules wrote:
At 2/24/2012 8:34:14 AM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 12:43:47 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM, DanT wrote:
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers


Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 

Where are these definitions from?

It's the Etymology

Did you just create them on the spot?

No I did not.

http://www.etymonline.com...
www.wiktionary.org/

Where are these prounciations from?

a pronunciation is the manner in which someone utters a word


Some of these definitions would appear to be insufficient in terms of how the terms have been described in the past. I don't know, it seems like OP is intensely interested in definitions. OP should read Wittgenstein.

Etymology


LOL from the Greek ethos, it isnt etymology.

actually etymology comes from the Greek etumon, meaning true sense, along with the Greek logia meaning the study of.

You do just make it up. Th etymology of a term only concerns itself with the origin of the word.

Which I provided, the root word, and the meaning of the root words combined with the root suffixes.

Sincere from the latiin sine cera meaning without wax. Methinks you are not with yourself sincere.

actually it comes from the latin sincerus, meaning genuine. It is a common misconception that it comes from the lain sine (without) cera (wax), in reality it is unrelated to the phrase sine cera.
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/25/2012 8:21:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/24/2012 7:12:54 PM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/24/2012 4:46:28 PM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 4:16:55 PM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/24/2012 4:15:13 PM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 11:22:08 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/24/2012 8:34:14 AM, DanT wrote:
At 2/24/2012 12:43:47 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
At 2/20/2012 12:26:10 PM, DanT wrote:
Fascism (fascis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of government collectivism
Nationalism (natio+-alis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective people
Socialism (socialis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of a collective interdependence

Libertarianism (liberalis+-arius+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of more freedom
Classic-Liberalism (classique+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting an earlier idea of freedom
Anarchism (an-+archia+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of no rulers


Progressivism (progressus+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of advancing
Populism (populare+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of the masses
Social-Liberalism (socialis+liberalis+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of protecting interdependent freedoms

Conservatism (conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preservation 
Traditional-Conservatism (traditio+-alis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving customs 
Liberal-Conservative (liberalis+conservare+-ivus+-ismos): A doctrine in favor of preserving freedom

 

Where are these definitions from?

It's the Etymology

Did you just create them on the spot?

No I did not.

http://www.etymonline.com...
www.wiktionary.org/

Where are these prounciations from?

a pronunciation is the manner in which someone utters a word


Some of these definitions would appear to be insufficient in terms of how the terms have been described in the past. I don't know, it seems like OP is intensely interested in definitions. OP should read Wittgenstein.

Etymology

Show me where you found the fascism etymology. It's clearly not from either the etymology site or the wiktionary one. It just seems to be your interpretation of the etymology.

"Fascism
Etymology
From Italian fascismo, from fascio"
http://en.wiktionary.org...

"Fascio
Etymology
From Latin fascis.
Noun
fascio m (plural fasci)
1.bundle (of wood)
2.sheaf (of hay)
3.bunch (of flowers)
4.beam (of light)
5.fasces (especially in plural)
6.fascism
7.(slang) a fascist
8.(mathematics) sheaf
9.(anatomy) fasciculus, bundle"
http://en.wiktionary.org...

"Fascis
Noun
fascis (genitive fascis); m, third declension
1.A fag0t, fascine; bundle, packet, package, parcel.
2.A burden, load.
3.(usually in plural) A bundle carried by lictors before the highest magistrates, consisting of rods and an axe, with which criminals were scourged and beheaded.
4.A high office, like the consulship."
http://en.wiktionary.org...

Where does it say anything about government collectivism?

fascis means a bundle, or packet, or a load. It also refers to a symbol of authority. It also means a high office.

mussolini said he chose the word fascio because he wanted to portray a unity of nationalists, thus he chose it both for the bundle (collective) defintion and the high office defintion.

If you want to play around with words and invent your own definitions then by all means do so, but if you were looking at us to accept or validate them I don't think that's happening.

I'm not asking you to agree, I'm asking you to supply a logical arguement for why you disagree.

So far your only arguement is, "I don't agree, therefor you made it up"

whereas I have provided proof

you didn't even bother to read the sources, you simply claimed the sources did not say it, because you did not believe they said it.

"fascist
1921, from It. partito nazionale fascista, the anti-communist political movement organized 1919 under Benito Mussolini (1883-1945); from It. fascio 'group, association,' lit. 'bundle'(see fasces)."
http://www.etymonline.com...
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/25/2012 10:42:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 10:10:25 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Fascio means bundle, specifically the Roman item, it is never used to refer to a group of people.

OK, so without a citing a source, you are claiming my source is wrong. Fine here is a Italian Dictionary

"fascio
M
1. bunch, sheaf, spray;
2. batch, bundle
3. beam stream
4. fascist party
locuzioni idiomatiche (idiomatic expressions)
fare d'ogni erba un ~ prov. to tar everyone with the same brush;
essere un ~ di nervi to be a bundle of nerves
locuzioni sostantivali (noun phrases)
~ di elettroni electron beam."
http://www.wordreference.com...

fasces are a historical symbol of strength through unity. The US congress uses it in their seal to symbolize the Federation's strength through the unity of the States.
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
Zetsubou
Posts: 4,933
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/25/2012 10:53:31 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 10:42:15 AM, DanT wrote:
fare d'ogni erba un ~ prov. to tar everyone with the same brush;
Where is the word "fascio"?

1. (di erba, fiori) bunch, sheaf(irregular), spray;
(di carte, giornali) batch, bundle

2. (di luce) beam, stream

3. colloq. (partito fascista) Fascist party

These are the definitions of the word according to your source.

You are yet to provide a source that agrees with what you claim.
'sup DDO -- july 2013
logicrules
Posts: 1,721
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/25/2012 11:17:55 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 10:42:15 AM, DanT wrote:
At 2/25/2012 10:10:25 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Fascio means bundle, specifically the Roman item, it is never used to refer to a group of people.

OK, so without a citing a source, you are claiming my source is wrong. Fine here is a Italian Dictionary

"fascio
M
1. bunch, sheaf, spray;
2. batch, bundle
3. beam stream
4. fascist party
locuzioni idiomatiche (idiomatic expressions)
fare d'ogni erba un ~ prov. to tar everyone with the same brush;
essere un ~ di nervi to be a bundle of nerves
locuzioni sostantivali (noun phrases)
~ di elettroni electron beam."
http://www.wordreference.com...

fasces are a historical symbol of strength through unity. The US congress uses it in their seal to symbolize the Federation's strength through the unity of the States.

you insist your musings are brilliant, yet you are most often incorrect. You are incorrect, your insights are just silly and your reasoning fallacious.

A definition may not contain the term being defined. Etymology is not a definition.
mattrodstrom
Posts: 12,028
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/25/2012 12:17:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 11:17:55 AM, logicrules wrote:
A definition may not contain the term being defined. Etymology is not a definition.

True, true...

Etymologies are interesting.. but they're certainly shouldn't be confused with definitions..

I don't know if DanT was unaware of this or not :/
The point of the thread is unclear..

Perhaps he just finds etymologies interesting and cared to share
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."
DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/25/2012 12:27:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 11:17:55 AM, logicrules wrote:
At 2/25/2012 10:42:15 AM, DanT wrote:
At 2/25/2012 10:10:25 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
Fascio means bundle, specifically the Roman item, it is never used to refer to a group of people.

OK, so without a citing a source, you are claiming my source is wrong. Fine here is a Italian Dictionary

"fascio
M
1. bunch, sheaf, spray;
2. batch, bundle
3. beam stream
4. fascist party
locuzioni idiomatiche (idiomatic expressions)
fare d'ogni erba un ~ prov. to tar everyone with the same brush;
essere un ~ di nervi to be a bundle of nerves
locuzioni sostantivali (noun phrases)
~ di elettroni electron beam."
http://www.wordreference.com...

fasces are a historical symbol of strength through unity. The US congress uses it in their seal to symbolize the Federation's strength through the unity of the States.

you insist your musings are brilliant, yet you are most often incorrect. You are incorrect, your insights are just silly and your reasoning fallacious.

Yet somehow you can never provide a source to back that up
A definition may not contain the term being defined. Etymology is not a definition.

Where in my post did I ever call it a definition? OMG called it a defintion I called it an Etymology
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/25/2012 12:31:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 10:53:31 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 2/25/2012 10:42:15 AM, DanT wrote:
fare d'ogni erba un ~ prov. to tar everyone with the same brush;
Where is the word "fascio"?


That's was a idiomatic expression, listed under the definition of fascio.

1. (di erba, fiori) bunch, sheaf(irregular), spray;
(di carte, giornali) batch, bundle


2. (di luce) beam, stream

3. colloq. (partito fascista) Fascist party

These are the definitions of the word according to your source.

You are yet to provide a source that agrees with what you claim.

Definitions expressing a collective are bolded
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
DanT
Posts: 5,693
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/25/2012 12:33:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 12:17:55 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 2/25/2012 11:17:55 AM, logicrules wrote:
A definition may not contain the term being defined. Etymology is not a definition.

True, true...

Etymologies are interesting.. but they're certainly shouldn't be confused with definitions..

I don't know if DanT was unaware of this or not :/
The point of the thread is unclear..

Perhaps he just finds etymologies interesting and cared to share

Not once did I claim they were definitions. I claimed they were etymologies. When OMG called the definitions, I corrected her, pointing out that it was an "Etymology".
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
mattrodstrom
Posts: 12,028
Add as Friend
Challenge to a Debate
Send a Message
2/25/2012 12:34:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 12:33:08 PM, DanT wrote:
At 2/25/2012 12:17:55 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 2/25/2012 11:17:55 AM, logicrules wrote:
A definition may not contain the term being defined. Etymology is not a definition.

True, true...

Etymologies are interesting.. but they're certainly shouldn't be confused with definitions..

I don't know if DanT was unaware of this or not :/
The point of the thread is unclear..

Perhaps he just finds etymologies interesting and cared to share

Not once did I claim they were definitions. I claimed they were etymologies. When OMG called the definitions, I corrected her, pointing out that it was an "Etymology".

ok.. I didn't say otherwise.. I said I was unaware of what you thought.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
"The science.. which deals with the fundamental errors of mankind - but as if they were the fundamental truths."