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tvellalott
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2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
SO!
For those of you who don't know anything about Australian politics (lucky bastards!)
-Rudd won an election against the last Liberal Prime Minister Howard in 2007
-He remained PM until 2010 when then Deputy PM Gillard said she would contest the leadership and knowing he didn't have the support of the party he stepped down.
-Gillard won the 2010 election just barely (only with the support of the Greens) and currently holds a minority government.
-NOW, with the impending 2012 election, Rudd has stepped down as Foreign Minister and is almost certainly going to challenge Gillard for the leadership and seems to have quite a bit of support.

All I have to say is...

WHAT. THE. FVCK.

Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.
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2/23/2012 7:28:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.
Could you try to actually complain about something instead of just generally b.itch?
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2/23/2012 7:44:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Sounds bad. However you guys do have Universal Healthcare.
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2/23/2012 7:45:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 7:44:43 PM, Contra wrote:
Sounds bad. However you guys do have Universal Healthcare.

Sounds worse.
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2/23/2012 7:48:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 7:45:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:44:43 PM, Contra wrote:
Sounds bad. However you guys do have Universal Healthcare.

Sounds worse.

I'm not sure how you conclude that everyone having health care at a cheaper price with higher quality is "worse" must be because your definition of worse is "anything that doesn't fit my ignorant ideology"
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2/23/2012 7:51:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 7:48:57 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:45:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:44:43 PM, Contra wrote:
Sounds bad. However you guys do have Universal Healthcare.

Sounds worse.

I'm not sure how you conclude that everyone having health care at a cheaper price with higher quality is "worse" must be because your definition of worse is "anything that doesn't fit my ignorant ideology"

Correction: Everyone gets worse healthcare, for more, and has to pay for everyone elses.
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2/23/2012 7:58:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 7:51:31 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:48:57 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:45:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:44:43 PM, Contra wrote:
Sounds bad. However you guys do have Universal Healthcare.

Sounds worse.

I'm not sure how you conclude that everyone having health care at a cheaper price with higher quality is "worse" must be because your definition of worse is "anything that doesn't fit my ignorant ideology"

Correction: Everyone gets worse healthcare, for more, and has to pay for everyone elses.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com...
^America's non universal health care system decreases job mobility by 25%.
This decreases self-employed entrepreneurship by 20%. Job lock also keeps workers in areas where they are least efficient harming productivity.
^So universal health care would increase the number of small businesses by 20%. Research done by Alison Wellington.

http://www.rand.org...
^A rand study finds comparable results, finding that universal health care would increase the rate of small businesses by a little less than 20%

http://www.reuters.com...
^United states is ranked last on health care outcomes among 16 nations. Canada is 10th.

America spends 3.08 times more on health care per capita. Individual countries.
1) Canada gets 30% more medical service for every dollar it spends than America does.
http://www.openmedicine.ca...
Canada overall has higher survival rates in the medical field and better care.
3) American has the longest wait times. Canada has the 2nd longest yet their median wait times for elective surgeries were half that of Americans.

http://www.foxnews.com..., 2933, 136990, 00.html
==Americans satisfied with health care less than other countries.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com...
==37% of Americans don't get care, compared to 5% of candidaians. American number is deflated because you have to have Care to know you need more.

http://www.openmedicine.ca...
==Comparisons of 38 studies on Canada and USA health care, finds Canada has better results.

http://www.allcountries.org...
http://www.reuters.com...
==USA worst in preventable deaths.
==If USA was at the average 75,000 less people would die a year.

http://www.reuters.com...
http://www.casavaria.com...
==Around 200,000 people die a year because of America's health care system.

http://www.bankruptcylawnetwork.com...
==2 million Americans go bankrupt from medical bills each year.

If the United States health care system was like other countries (example: France) there would be over 100,000 less preventable deaths a year. This is with the USA spending 140% more on health care.

http://www.washingtonpost.com...
^In America productivity in health care declined by 0.6% over the past decade 2000-2010, meaning the health care industry continues to become less efficient.

http://www.news-medical.net...
http://www.news-medical.net...
==18% of Americans don't have health care.
Another 15% of Americans only have health care for parts of the year and have inadequate care.

http://theincidentaleconomist.com...
^A conservative estimate of the governments employer based health tax credit shows that the average employee gets a 5,500 subsidy for health care, just $800 less then what someone on Medicaid gets, also if you are in the top income bracket you actually get over $600 more in subsidies then someone on Medicaid.

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org...
^People who spend more money on health care via out of the pocket methods actually saw a higher increase in health spending then those who didn't have high out of pocket costs.

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org...
^Insurance companies dropping coverage for thousands of sick patients and increasing profits ahead of 2014 protections that are in the PACA

http://www.angrybearblog.com...
^Americans that go to other countries to get heath care out number foreigners who come to America to get health care by 50%.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com...
^In about a years' time 10% of the population has lost their health insurance. 50% of the population sees a medical cost shock.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com...
^3 times the amount of people in America say they spent excessive time on paper work for health care.
^Also 3 times the amount of people in America said they had claims denied. Compared to other 1st world countries.

http://assets.opencrs.com...
1) USA spends 150% more than the OCED average.
2) OCED has 33% more patients
3) OCED has 71% more doctor visits
4) OCED has 25% more doctors
5 OCED has 46% more hospital beds
6) OCED has 75% less deaths due to medical errors

http://www.commonwealthfund.org...
^Americans are 160% more likely to not get health care due to cost. 54% of Americans don't get some form of care because of cost

http://www.dailykos.com...-
^Private insurance companies reject 22% of claims.

http://www.commonwealthfund.org...
==1) American's want their health care system changed more than two times the amount that people in "socialized medicine" countries do.
2) Americans report 50% more medical errors then those in socialized medicine countries.

http://www.commonwealthfund.org...
http://www.who.int...
http://assets.opencrs.com...
http://www.oecd.org...
==Academic standards show America has worse healthcare then other countries.
USA compared to government health care. (all statistics are per capita).
Where America is worse.
1) America has 50% more Medical errors.
2) America is worst in preventable deaths. If America was like government health care 200,000 people would be saved a year.
3) America has 2 million more medical bankruptcies compared to 0.
4) America has 26% less doctors.
5) America has 4% less nurses.
6) America has 46% less hospital beds.
7) America saw half the life expectancy change than countries who changed to government health care.
8) Infant mortality rates are 17% higher in America.
9) America has 100% less Psychiatric care beds.
10) America has 20% less people who go to hospitals.
11) America has 26% more years of life lost due to medical reasons.
12) America has 40% more Respiratory deaths
13) US Tuberculosis treatment success is 10% less

http://crooksandliars.com...
^Study finds that in the long run universal health care lowers total health care costs
Contra
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2/23/2012 7:58:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 7:48:57 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:45:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:44:43 PM, Contra wrote:
Sounds bad. However you guys do have Universal Healthcare.

Sounds worse.

I'm not sure how you conclude that everyone having health care at a cheaper price with higher quality is "worse" must be because your definition of worse is "anything that doesn't fit my ignorant ideology"

+1

"People aren't entitled to healthcare, because it is a commodity of the market!"

If prisoners are entitled to lawyers, patients should be able to see a doctor in a way that is more efficient, higher in care, and in a way that doesn't bankrupt them.

Rising premiums for everybody! America remains number one for cost and way down the list for actual (you know) healthcare! Can we finally start talking about Medicare for everybody, then fix our healthcare system?
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2/23/2012 7:58:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 7:51:31 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:48:57 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:45:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:44:43 PM, Contra wrote:
Sounds bad. However you guys do have Universal Healthcare.

Sounds worse.

I'm not sure how you conclude that everyone having health care at a cheaper price with higher quality is "worse" must be because your definition of worse is "anything that doesn't fit my ignorant ideology"

Correction: Everyone gets worse healthcare, for more, and has to pay for everyone elses.
Come back when you have a clue IE never.
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2/23/2012 8:01:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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tvellalott
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2/23/2012 8:11:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 7:28:03 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.
Could you try to actually complain about something instead of just generally b.itch?

Wat?
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2/23/2012 8:26:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Lol williweed.
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2/23/2012 8:28:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 8:11:18 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:28:03 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.
Could you try to actually complain about something instead of just generally b.itch?

Wat?
I alright with you complaining but in your whole post you didn't really touch on any subject.
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2/23/2012 8:35:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I don't understand why people are ragging on democracy... this would happen in any system that contains human actors. It's called ambition. It runs throughout EVERY SINGLE FORM OF GOVERNMENT. 'Cause, you know, people are ambitious.

Anywho, as I understand it (by listening to a lovely lecture from Mark Latham awhile back), this is regular for the Labor Party. Infighting apparently dooms all their spells in government. Given that Gillard is a tool, I could see Rudd being confident enough in his support to retake the crown. Why not? He's the one who originally had it.
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2/23/2012 9:20:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
SO!
For those of you who don't know anything about Australian politics (lucky bastards!)
-Rudd won an election against the last Liberal Prime Minister Howard in 2007
-He remained PM until 2010 when then Deputy PM Gillard said she would contest the leadership and knowing he didn't have the support of the party he stepped down.
-Gillard won the 2010 election just barely (only with the support of the Greens) and currently holds a minority government.
-NOW, with the impending 2012 election, Rudd has stepped down as Foreign Minister and is almost certainly going to challenge Gillard for the leadership and seems to have quite a bit of support.

All I have to say is...

WHAT. THE. FVCK.

Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.

Austalia > United States

Then again the standards for government are really low.
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2/23/2012 9:28:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 9:20:45 PM, darkkermit wrote:


Austalia > United States

Then again the standards for government are really low.
Who would of thought that a bunch of criminals would do so well…
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2/23/2012 9:31:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 8:28:42 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:11:18 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:28:03 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.
Could you try to actually complain about something instead of just generally b.itch?

Wat?
I alright with you complaining but in your whole post you didn't really touch on any subject.

I'm sorry, are you the content police? The subject is clearly farcical leadership changes... how can you miss that?
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2/23/2012 9:32:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 9:31:08 PM, fubar wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:28:42 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:11:18 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:28:03 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.
Could you try to actually complain about something instead of just generally b.itch?

Wat?
I alright with you complaining but in your whole post you didn't really touch on any subject.

I'm sorry, are you the content police? The subject is clearly farcical leadership changes... how can you miss that?

This.
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2/23/2012 9:34:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 8:35:18 PM, Volkov wrote:
I don't understand why people are ragging on democracy... this would happen in any system that contains human actors. It's called ambition. It runs throughout EVERY SINGLE FORM OF GOVERNMENT. 'Cause, you know, people are ambitious.

Anywho, as I understand it (by listening to a lovely lecture from Mark Latham awhile back), this is regular for the Labor Party. Infighting apparently dooms all their spells in government. Given that Gillard is a tool, I could see Rudd being confident enough in his support to retake the crown. Why not? He's the one who originally had it.

I completely agree with you.
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2/23/2012 10:03:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 9:31:08 PM, fubar wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:28:42 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:11:18 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:28:03 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.
Could you try to actually complain about something instead of just generally b.itch?

Wat?
I alright with you complaining but in your whole post you didn't really touch on any subject.

I'm sorry, are you the content police? The subject is clearly farcical leadership changes... how can you miss that?
How could you miss the fact that the topic contains no value? Maybe because you have no value yourself?
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2/23/2012 10:14:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 10:03:50 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 9:31:08 PM, fubar wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:28:42 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:11:18 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:28:03 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.
Could you try to actually complain about something instead of just generally b.itch?

Wat?
I alright with you complaining but in your whole post you didn't really touch on any subject.

I'm sorry, are you the content police? The subject is clearly farcical leadership changes... how can you miss that?
How could you miss the fact that the topic contains no value? Maybe because you have no value yourself?

I have a hard time figuring out if you're a troll or just REALLY stupid...
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2/23/2012 10:32:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 10:14:14 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/23/2012 10:03:50 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 9:31:08 PM, fubar wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:28:42 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:11:18 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:28:03 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.
Could you try to actually complain about something instead of just generally b.itch?

Wat?
I alright with you complaining but in your whole post you didn't really touch on any subject.

I'm sorry, are you the content police? The subject is clearly farcical leadership changes... how can you miss that?
How could you miss the fact that the topic contains no value? Maybe because you have no value yourself?

I have a hard time figuring out if you're a troll or just REALLY stupid...

I see so accroding to you only trolls and stupid
people talk about things that contain intelegn ece and substances.
Clearly that means you're dumber then dirt; however that
is porbably an insult to dirt
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2/23/2012 10:33:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/23/2012 10:32:14 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 10:14:14 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/23/2012 10:03:50 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 9:31:08 PM, fubar wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:28:42 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:11:18 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:28:03 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.
Could you try to actually complain about something instead of just generally b.itch?

Wat?
I alright with you complaining but in your whole post you didn't really touch on any subject.

I'm sorry, are you the content police? The subject is clearly farcical leadership changes... how can you miss that?
How could you miss the fact that the topic contains no value? Maybe because you have no value yourself?

I have a hard time figuring out if you're a troll or just REALLY stupid...

I see so accroding to you only trolls and stupid
people talk about things that contain intelegn ece and substances.
Clearly that means you're dumber then dirt; however that
is porbably an insult to dirt

Your string of insults is incoherent ROFLCOPTER

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2/24/2012 12:50:18 AM
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To be fair TV, the Liberals aren't exactly better. I mean, Abbott defeated Turnbull in a vote because the moderates split between Turnbull and Hockey. Personally I think Turnbull is far more intellectual and measured than Abbott and such, but that's just my opinion. Blatant negative attacks aren't exactly helping things.

A very tense time in Australian politics, although this might be being exarcerbated by the ever shorter media cycle.
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2/24/2012 6:10:57 AM
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Ruff woof. [Australian politics, like all human politics, is full of bastards. Its time for the canine revolution party to take over]
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2/24/2012 5:19:58 PM
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At 2/23/2012 10:03:50 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 9:31:08 PM, fubar wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:28:42 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 8:11:18 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:28:03 PM, Starcraftzzz wrote:
At 2/23/2012 7:16:17 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Is this supposed to distract the public from the fact that their both fvcking morons?
That we cannot trust a single election promise that they (or any politician for that matter) makes?
I mean the quick leadership change before the last election may very well have saved Labour from losing their position of power (political sleight of hand and redirection for the win?) but do they really think it will work again?

I am so disillusioned by this supposed democracy it makes me ill. I'd take your American system over ours any day. At least you guys aren't forced by threat of fine to vote.
Could you try to actually complain about something instead of just generally b.itch?

Wat?
I alright with you complaining but in your whole post you didn't really touch on any subject.

I'm sorry, are you the content police? The subject is clearly farcical leadership changes... how can you miss that?
How could you miss the fact that the topic contains no value? Maybe because you have no value yourself?

Are you going to respond or just insult people and belittle them? "Maybe because you have no value yourself"?
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