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2/28/2012 5:48:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I say that he did nothing to start the Great Depression and did try to stop the Great Depression and even handed out aid to Depression victims out of his own pocket.

But he also saved millions of Russian lives by providing millions of pounds of grain to a starving Russia.
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2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.
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2/28/2012 6:07:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Ikes right. I know you want to have the perception that Roosevelt had nothing to do with solving the Great depression, and that things would've been better under a second term of Hoover, but it really isnt that simple.
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2/28/2012 6:09:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

Wilson and the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression. Yes, he did have the Smoot Hawley tariff, which was not good. But he did help people affected by the depression from his own pocket.

Here is the culprit list:

The Main Cause of the Great Depression: Woodrow Wilson
The Main Reason the Great Depression lasted so long: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Kind of helped the Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
Had no effect on the Great Depression: Warren Harding & Calvin Coolidge
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2/28/2012 6:09:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:07:31 PM, thett3 wrote:
Ikes right. I know you want to have the perception that Roosevelt had nothing to do with solving the Great depression, and that things would've been better under a second term of Hoover, but it really isnt that simple.

Well he didn't cause the Great Depression.
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2/28/2012 6:11:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:09:41 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:07:31 PM, thett3 wrote:
Ikes right. I know you want to have the perception that Roosevelt had nothing to do with solving the Great depression, and that things would've been better under a second term of Hoover, but it really isnt that simple.

Well he didn't cause the Great Depression.

Not completely, no. Saying he "caused" the Great Depression is about as idiotic as saying that Woodrow Wilson caused WWI. It's just something that happened, perhaps he could've taken steps to avoid it or to lessen it, but he didnt cause it. That's not an argument.
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: thett was right
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2/28/2012 6:11:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:09:06 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

Wilson and the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression. Yes, he did have the Smoot Hawley tariff, which was not good. But he did help people affected by the depression from his own pocket.

Here is the culprit list:

The Main Cause of the Great Depression: Woodrow Wilson
The Main Reason the Great Depression lasted so long: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Kind of helped the Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
Had no effect on the Great Depression: Warren Harding & Calvin Coolidge

shocking how the person who wants to add "end the fed" to the big issues on DDO would blame the depression on a president years before the depression even started...
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2/28/2012 6:12:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:11:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:09:41 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:07:31 PM, thett3 wrote:
Ikes right. I know you want to have the perception that Roosevelt had nothing to do with solving the Great depression, and that things would've been better under a second term of Hoover, but it really isnt that simple.

Well he didn't cause the Great Depression.

Not completely, no. Saying he "caused" the Great Depression is about as idiotic as saying that Woodrow Wilson caused WWI.

Correct. But some people do not realize that.
It's just something that happened, perhaps he could've taken steps to avoid it or to lessen it, but he didnt cause it. That's not an argument.

He could have done a better job, but he did do a pretty good job. I mean the economy goes back up around the end of this presidency.
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2/28/2012 6:13:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:11:34 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:09:06 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

Wilson and the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression. Yes, he did have the Smoot Hawley tariff, which was not good. But he did help people affected by the depression from his own pocket.

Here is the culprit list:

The Main Cause of the Great Depression: Woodrow Wilson
The Main Reason the Great Depression lasted so long: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Kind of helped the Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
Had no effect on the Great Depression: Warren Harding & Calvin Coolidge

shocking how the person who wants to add "end the fed" to the big issues on DDO would blame the depression on a president years before the depression even started...

Well since the Fed caused the Great Depression, that is another reason to end the fed.
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2/28/2012 6:16:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
How exactly did the Fed cause the great depression, and what alternative do you suggest?
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2/28/2012 6:18:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:13:34 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:11:34 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:09:06 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

Wilson and the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression. Yes, he did have the Smoot Hawley tariff, which was not good. But he did help people affected by the depression from his own pocket.

Here is the culprit list:

The Main Cause of the Great Depression: Woodrow Wilson
The Main Reason the Great Depression lasted so long: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Kind of helped the Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
Had no effect on the Great Depression: Warren Harding & Calvin Coolidge

shocking how the person who wants to add "end the fed" to the big issues on DDO would blame the depression on a president years before the depression even started...

Well since the Fed caused the Great Depression, that is another reason to end the fed.

LMAO. The Fed was created DURING the Depression after the banks crashed. Can you honestly spew this stuff with a straight face?
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2/28/2012 6:19:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

I tend to notice that we love to play the Blame Game around here. Does it matter WHO caused the Depression and WHO didn't? I agree with you Ike, but I just find it funny that we actually try and assign blame to things when, in the end, no one agrees, no true source can be found, and really, it's irrelevant, as it all led to the same situation.
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2/28/2012 6:19:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:18:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:13:34 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:11:34 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:09:06 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

Wilson and the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression. Yes, he did have the Smoot Hawley tariff, which was not good. But he did help people affected by the depression from his own pocket.

Here is the culprit list:

The Main Cause of the Great Depression: Woodrow Wilson
The Main Reason the Great Depression lasted so long: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Kind of helped the Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
Had no effect on the Great Depression: Warren Harding & Calvin Coolidge

shocking how the person who wants to add "end the fed" to the big issues on DDO would blame the depression on a president years before the depression even started...

Well since the Fed caused the Great Depression, that is another reason to end the fed.

LMAO. The Fed was created DURING the Depression after the banks crashed. Can you honestly spew this stuff with a straight face?

You're actually incorrect here, the Fed was created in 1913. Of course, there were ALOT of banking reforms during the Depression, so I think the substance behind your argument remains.
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2/28/2012 6:19:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:09:06 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

Wilson and the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression. Yes, he did have the Smoot Hawley tariff, which was not good. But he did help people affected by the depression from his own pocket.

Here is the culprit list:

The Main Cause of the Great Depression: Woodrow Wilson
The Main Reason the Great Depression lasted so long: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Kind of helped the Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
Had no effect on the Great Depression: Warren Harding & Calvin Coolidge

You're asserting lies without even a smidgen of support. You mind explaining what Woodrow Wilson had to do with the Great Depression? Harding appointed Sec. of Treasury Andrew Mellon, who CAUSED the speculation bubble with his incessant demands for tax cuts....Herbert Hoover did nothing to stop the Depression, he removed his hands from the economy the second it started. He was just as Big-Government as anyone else until the crash, then he refused to do ANYTHING...he called a conference in Washington to ASK corporations to PLEASE not fire workers and maintain wages, and starting spouting the doctrine of private initiative for the first time in his presidency.

His idiotic economic policies caused the depression, and then he copped out when it got bad under the veil of private initiative....
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2/28/2012 6:19:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:18:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:13:34 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:11:34 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:09:06 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

Wilson and the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression. Yes, he did have the Smoot Hawley tariff, which was not good. But he did help people affected by the depression from his own pocket.

Here is the culprit list:

The Main Cause of the Great Depression: Woodrow Wilson
The Main Reason the Great Depression lasted so long: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Kind of helped the Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
Had no effect on the Great Depression: Warren Harding & Calvin Coolidge

shocking how the person who wants to add "end the fed" to the big issues on DDO would blame the depression on a president years before the depression even started...

Well since the Fed caused the Great Depression, that is another reason to end the fed.

LMAO. The Fed was created DURING the Depression after the banks crashed. Can you honestly spew this stuff with a straight face?

The Fed was created in 1913.
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2/28/2012 6:20:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:16:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
How exactly did the Fed cause the great depression, and what alternative do you suggest?

I would use my version of the argument, but for the point of time:

"Since the Democrats had more political power at the time the Federal Reserve System passed in congress and was signed by Democratic president Woodrow Wilson. Thus the Federal Reserve was created on December, 23, 1913.

Originally the Federal Reserve lowered interest rates and as a result the economy saw an increase in borrowing. Investors and business owners who saw rising stock prices and low interest rates figured it was a no-brainer.

After all, if you could borrow money at 1% and put it into a market making 20% a year it simply made sense for people to borrow more money. This then lead to the roaring 20's were the economy was good, businesses where thriving, and unemployment was low. But there was one problem.

All of the money flowing into the economy thanks to the Federal Reserve and their low interest rate created inflation. As incomes went up, so did the price of goods and business costs.

The economy was now dependent upon the inflow of money from the Federal Reserve and the low interest rates.

When the Fed increased interest rates in 1929 it would be one of the main causes of the great depression. As a result less loans were being created and less money was able to flow into the economy.

Some investors who saw this happening got out of the marketplace early, weakening the bullish market. As the markets stopped going up investors began to panic and sell their shares of stock. Overleveraged investors scared of losing their life savings sold their shares of stock and forced the market downward.

All this sparked the beginning of black Tuesday October 29, 1929 the day the stock market crashed.

After the crash Americans started spending less and started saving more. This lead to less production and less jobs, causing unemployment to go higher and higher."[1]

[1]:http://www.stocks-simplified.com...
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2/28/2012 6:20:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:18:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:13:34 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:11:34 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:09:06 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

Wilson and the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression. Yes, he did have the Smoot Hawley tariff, which was not good. But he did help people affected by the depression from his own pocket.

Here is the culprit list:

The Main Cause of the Great Depression: Woodrow Wilson
The Main Reason the Great Depression lasted so long: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Kind of helped the Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
Had no effect on the Great Depression: Warren Harding & Calvin Coolidge

shocking how the person who wants to add "end the fed" to the big issues on DDO would blame the depression on a president years before the depression even started...

Well since the Fed caused the Great Depression, that is another reason to end the fed.

LMAO. The Fed was created DURING the Depression after the banks crashed. Can you honestly spew this stuff with a straight face?

The Fed was created in 1913.
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2/28/2012 6:21:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:19:35 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:09:06 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

Wilson and the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression. Yes, he did have the Smoot Hawley tariff, which was not good. But he did help people affected by the depression from his own pocket.

Here is the culprit list:

The Main Cause of the Great Depression: Woodrow Wilson
The Main Reason the Great Depression lasted so long: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Kind of helped the Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
Had no effect on the Great Depression: Warren Harding & Calvin Coolidge

You're asserting lies without even a smidgen of support. You mind explaining what Woodrow Wilson had to do with the Great Depression? Harding appointed Sec. of Treasury Andrew Mellon, who CAUSED the speculation bubble with his incessant demands for tax cuts....Herbert Hoover did nothing to stop the Depression, he removed his hands from the economy the second it started. He was just as Big-Government as anyone else until the crash, then he refused to do ANYTHING...he called a conference in Washington to ASK corporations to PLEASE not fire workers and maintain wages, and starting spouting the doctrine of private initiative for the first time in his presidency.

His idiotic economic policies caused the depression, and then he copped out when it got bad under the veil of private initiative....

Lmao, it sounds like you're on the same APUSH unit as we are. Weird how you take that class freshman year, and we take it Junior year.
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2/28/2012 6:21:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:16:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
How exactly did the Fed cause the great depression, and what alternative do you suggest?

The failure to maintain monetary policy by the Federal Reserve was one of the key aspects that lead to the elongation of the Great Depression.
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2/28/2012 6:22:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:21:54 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:16:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
How exactly did the Fed cause the great depression, and what alternative do you suggest?

The failure to maintain monetary policy by the Federal Reserve was one of the key aspects that lead to the elongation of the Great Depression.

Could you be a bit more specific? Like what exactly was flawed in their monetary policy?
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2/28/2012 6:23:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:22:43 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:21:54 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:16:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
How exactly did the Fed cause the great depression, and what alternative do you suggest?

The failure to maintain monetary policy by the Federal Reserve was one of the key aspects that lead to the elongation of the Great Depression.

Could you be a bit more specific? Like what exactly was flawed in their monetary policy?

They did not print enough money to lend to the banks and therefore a drop in money supply occurred.
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2/28/2012 6:23:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:21:23 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:19:35 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:09:06 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

Wilson and the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression. Yes, he did have the Smoot Hawley tariff, which was not good. But he did help people affected by the depression from his own pocket.

Here is the culprit list:

The Main Cause of the Great Depression: Woodrow Wilson
The Main Reason the Great Depression lasted so long: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Kind of helped the Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
Had no effect on the Great Depression: Warren Harding & Calvin Coolidge

You're asserting lies without even a smidgen of support. You mind explaining what Woodrow Wilson had to do with the Great Depression? Harding appointed Sec. of Treasury Andrew Mellon, who CAUSED the speculation bubble with his incessant demands for tax cuts....Herbert Hoover did nothing to stop the Depression, he removed his hands from the economy the second it started. He was just as Big-Government as anyone else until the crash, then he refused to do ANYTHING...he called a conference in Washington to ASK corporations to PLEASE not fire workers and maintain wages, and starting spouting the doctrine of private initiative for the first time in his presidency.

His idiotic economic policies caused the depression, and then he copped out when it got bad under the veil of private initiative....

Lmao, it sounds like you're on the same APUSH unit as we are. Weird how you take that class freshman year, and we take it Junior year.

no, we finished the Great Depression 2 months ago. Right now, we went back to US 1 and we're reviewing Colonial America - WWI for the APUSH test. My teacher is insane...she makes us say mantras like "I will get a 5 on the AP test" and then makes us dance to the order of the presidents.
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2/28/2012 6:25:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:22:43 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:21:54 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:16:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
How exactly did the Fed cause the great depression, and what alternative do you suggest?

The failure to maintain monetary policy by the Federal Reserve was one of the key aspects that lead to the elongation of the Great Depression.

Could you be a bit more specific? Like what exactly was flawed in their monetary policy?

If you ever need to know how the fed caused the stock market crash: http://www.debate.org... there you go lol
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2/28/2012 6:26:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:23:49 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:21:23 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:19:35 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:09:06 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:03:07 PM, 000ike wrote:
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

The Smoot Hawley tariff is one of the largest causes of the Depression since it diminished both imports and exports, virtually cut off trade with war-torn, poverty-stricken Europe, and screwed over Farmers at home. Then we can also blame him for the speculation that caused the Stock Market Crash since he essentially encouraged it assuring everyone that the economy was indestructable. And then, at the onset of Black Thursday, he refused to do anything about it and decided to be "Mr. Conservative" claiming a necessity for private initiative and pretty much begging corporations to comply.

Wilson and the Federal Reserve caused the Great Depression. Yes, he did have the Smoot Hawley tariff, which was not good. But he did help people affected by the depression from his own pocket.

Here is the culprit list:

The Main Cause of the Great Depression: Woodrow Wilson
The Main Reason the Great Depression lasted so long: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Kind of helped the Great Depression: Herbert Hoover
Had no effect on the Great Depression: Warren Harding & Calvin Coolidge

You're asserting lies without even a smidgen of support. You mind explaining what Woodrow Wilson had to do with the Great Depression? Harding appointed Sec. of Treasury Andrew Mellon, who CAUSED the speculation bubble with his incessant demands for tax cuts....Herbert Hoover did nothing to stop the Depression, he removed his hands from the economy the second it started. He was just as Big-Government as anyone else until the crash, then he refused to do ANYTHING...he called a conference in Washington to ASK corporations to PLEASE not fire workers and maintain wages, and starting spouting the doctrine of private initiative for the first time in his presidency.

His idiotic economic policies caused the depression, and then he copped out when it got bad under the veil of private initiative....

Lmao, it sounds like you're on the same APUSH unit as we are. Weird how you take that class freshman year, and we take it Junior year.

no, we finished the Great Depression 2 months ago. Right now, we went back to US 1 and we're reviewing Colonial America - WWI for the APUSH test. My teacher is insane...she makes us say mantras like "I will get a 5 on the AP test" and then makes us dance to the order of the presidents.

That's bad@ss. Although, you'll probably learn it easier with this song :)
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: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
: thett was right
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2/28/2012 6:26:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/28/2012 6:23:38 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:22:43 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:21:54 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
At 2/28/2012 6:16:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
How exactly did the Fed cause the great depression, and what alternative do you suggest?

The failure to maintain monetary policy by the Federal Reserve was one of the key aspects that lead to the elongation of the Great Depression.

Could you be a bit more specific? Like what exactly was flawed in their monetary policy?

They did not print enough money to lend to the banks and therefore a drop in money supply occurred.

Ahh ok, thanks.
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: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
: thett was right