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rogue
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3/6/2012 10:01:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I was highly offended by JT's b!tchy little thread. So I'm gonna make one equally as offensive and ignorantly stereotypical.

Bad economy?

Deregulation and Obama's socialism!

Gay Marriage?

It will lead to bestiality!

Abortion?

You're killing babies! Let's forget all about the mother!

Way to fix things?

Deregulation(letting bad businesses be able to make more mistakes) and letting businesses plummet and put millions out of jobs

Welfare?

Those impoverished people are all just lazy and its their own fault they are bad off even though the job economy is so bad! Let's just let them suffer!

Health care?

Let's let businesses who only care about profit run it!

Taxes?

Evil! It's stealing! I can't afford to give to my country and help those less well-off even though I don't need this money and they do!

In the end, it's all about profit and business without any care about the costs of letting that be the priority. It is scary that people can be so unfeeling towards those who have so much less than us. And they claim to be the generous, virtuous, family oriented Christians....
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3/6/2012 10:04:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
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3/6/2012 10:05:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
And they claim to be the generous, virtuous, family oriented Christians....

YES!
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"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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3/6/2012 10:07:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:04:48 PM, Lordknukle wrote:


with the rampant misuse of this clip,....its lost all its meaning. You can copy and paste it all you like, the whole video is self-evidently more applicable to the post you place it in than to who you direct it at.
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3/6/2012 10:08:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
The forums are an ungodly circus.
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3/6/2012 10:09:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:07:45 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:04:48 PM, Lordknukle wrote:


with the rampant misuse of this clip,....its lost all its meaning. You can copy and paste it all you like, the whole video is self-evidently more applicable to the post you place it in than to who you direct it at.

Lol! The video is directed at Rogue and her failure at the management of economic policies which are common sense.

Emotions have no play in economics.

It's all profit-loss.
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
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3/6/2012 10:13:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:01:19 PM, rogue wrote:
I was highly offended by JT's b!tchy little thread. So I'm gonna make one equally as offensive and ignorantly stereotypical.

Bad economy?

Deregulation and Obama's socialism!

You cannot blame it on any one person. obama made it worse, but Bush made it bad too. Clinton actually hurt it (see 2000 economic downturn).


Gay Marriage?

It will lead to bestiality!

Since when is that a main reason to be against it?


Abortion?

You're killing babies! Let's forget all about the mother!

A woman has a right to murder? Only if her life is threatened.


Way to fix things?

Deregulation(letting bad businesses be able to make more mistakes) and letting businesses plummet and put millions out of jobs

It lowers cost on business therefore they can afford to higher more workers. Also there is a thing called the regulating free market.


Welfare?

Those impoverished people are all just lazy and its their own fault they are bad off even though the job economy is so bad! Let's just let them suffer!

"Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated." - Thomas Jefferson, 1798

My money, not theirs.


Health care?

Let's let businesses who only care about profit run it!

That means they have incentives to do it better as stye can make money. I prfer a Singaporean system. http://www.american.com...


Taxes?

Evil! It's stealing! I can't afford to give to my country and help those less well-off even though I don't need this money and they do!

Lower tax rates are good the same reason deregulation is. I think taxes are justified to a certain extent.


In the end, it's all about profit and business without any care about the costs of letting that be the priority. It is scary that people can be so unfeeling towards those who have so much less than us. And they claim to be the generous, virtuous, family oriented Christians....

I am atheist... Also the money is what makes EVERYTHING work... No money, no nothing. Sure, you can hunt for food... But having a good economy that gives you a job is better! No hiking 20 miles, just go to trader joes.
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https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
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3/6/2012 10:13:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
^ That was more civil then the make a forum about each issue have ad hom approaches.
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3/6/2012 10:18:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
haha these threads are getting entertaining ^-^
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3/6/2012 10:19:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:01:19 PM, rogue wrote:

Gay Marriage?

It will lead to bestiality!

But the logic in this one is obvious!!1

Honestly, I don't care about this whole conservative/liberal dichotomy on DDO. It's all relative. When I first joined DDO I considered myself a Liberal. Since joining DDO, it is apparent that I have become Conservative--for Canada. On here I might be classified as one of them libz!11!! In real life I'm pretty conservative.
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3/6/2012 10:20:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
everyone should just listen to this and relax. :p
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
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3/6/2012 10:21:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:01:19 PM, rogue wrote:
I was highly offended by JT's b!tchy little thread. So I'm gonna make one equally as offensive and ignorantly stereotypical.

Bad economy?

Deregulation and Obama's socialism!

Deregulation is a good thing and Obama's socialism is the main cause. That is reality.


Gay Marriage?

It will lead to bestiality!

I'm not in that crowd.


Abortion?

You're killing babies! Let's forget all about the mother!

Most cons want exception for mother's life. And, yes, we think that killing a baby is wrong, even if it is inconvienent to the mother.


Way to fix things?

Deregulation(letting bad businesses be able to make more mistakes) and letting businesses plummet and put millions out of jobs

Just let the free market work.


Welfare?

Those impoverished people are all just lazy and its their own fault they are bad off even though the job economy is so bad! Let's just let them suffer!

Or, reform the system so there is not such a disincentive to work.


Health care?

Let's let businesses who only care about profit run it!

Or, just let the free market work.


Taxes?

Evil! It's stealing! I can't afford to give to my country and help those less well-off even though I don't need this money and they do!

It's called charity. Retard.


In the end, it's all about profit and business without any care about the costs of letting that be the priority. It is scary that people can be so unfeeling towards those who have so much less than us. And they claim to be the generous, virtuous, family oriented Christians....

Ya, these are all strawmen. Mine were actual liberal perceptions.
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3/6/2012 10:22:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:20:45 PM, 000ike wrote:
everyone should just listen to this and relax. :p

.... :)
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
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3/6/2012 10:24:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:21:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:

Or, just let the free market work.



Sorry, I deleted too much of the post, but it was regarding healthcare.

Universal healthcare has been working for the countries who have it.
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3/6/2012 10:24:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:13:15 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:01:19 PM, rogue wrote:
I was highly offended by JT's b!tchy little thread. So I'm gonna make one equally as offensive and ignorantly stereotypical.

Bad economy?

Deregulation and Obama's socialism!

You cannot blame it on any one person. obama made it worse, but Bush made it bad too. Clinton actually hurt it (see 2000 economic downturn).

Um no. Obama has greatly slowed the deficit. Clinton took us from debt to surplus. The downturn was not his fault. It was completely Bush's fault.


Gay Marriage?

It will lead to bestiality!

Since when is that a main reason to be against it?

This is a stereotypical thread but that is a very common rationale people use.


Abortion?

You're killing babies! Let's forget all about the mother!

A woman has a right to murder? Only if her life is threatened.

It isn't murder. The embryo is not a person.


Way to fix things?

Deregulation(letting bad businesses be able to make more mistakes) and letting businesses plummet and put millions out of jobs

It lowers cost on business therefore they can afford to higher more workers. Also there is a thing called the regulating free market.

It takes too long for businesses to grow and hire people. It takes no time to fire them and put them out of a job. While it takes years for businesses to hire people, you have millions out of work.


Welfare?

Those impoverished people are all just lazy and its their own fault they are bad off even though the job economy is so bad! Let's just let them suffer!

"Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated." - Thomas Jefferson, 1798

My money, not theirs.

<.< Not in the Constitution, plus our government was designed to change. Citizens are enumerated. Therefore under that statement they deserve general welfare.


Health care?

Let's let businesses who only care about profit run it!

That means they have incentives to do it better as stye can make money. I prfer a Singaporean system. http://www.american.com...

Sometimes the most profitable thing to do is not what most helps people. Some recent examples are that there are lots of new cures to cancer that are being suppressed because it is bad for the companies that run chemo. Drug companies make new drugs that have inactive ingredients and then sell them as a new drug even though it doesn't do anything different than the old drug. Lots of people are denied health care because they are in bad health and paying for their health care would be unprofitable. Does that make any sense??!!


Taxes?

Evil! It's stealing! I can't afford to give to my country and help those less well-off even though I don't need this money and they do!

Lower tax rates are good the same reason deregulation is. I think taxes are justified to a certain extent.


In the end, it's all about profit and business without any care about the costs of letting that be the priority. It is scary that people can be so unfeeling towards those who have so much less than us. And they claim to be the generous, virtuous, family oriented Christians....

I am atheist... Also the money is what makes EVERYTHING work... No money, no nothing. Sure, you can hunt for food... But having a good economy that gives you a job is better! No hiking 20 miles, just go to trader joes.

We have to temper money with compassion otherwise we are immoral. (Remember this thread was semi-joking and overstereotypical in response to JT)
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3/6/2012 10:24:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:08:59 PM, 000ike wrote:
The forums are an ungodly circus.

We are in total agreement on that
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
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3/6/2012 10:25:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:22:06 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:20:45 PM, 000ike wrote:
everyone should just listen to this and relax. :p

.... :)

)...Bob Marley is better....:)
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." ~ John 1:1

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3/6/2012 10:25:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:24:16 PM, nonentity wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:21:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:

Or, just let the free market work.



Sorry, I deleted too much of the post, but it was regarding healthcare.

Universal healthcare has been working for the countries who have it.

Not quite.

Can you say "utter failure"?
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3/6/2012 10:26:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:25:16 PM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:22:06 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:20:45 PM, 000ike wrote:
everyone should just listen to this and relax. :p

.... :)

)...Bob Marley is better....:)

Y U NO LIKE CLASSICAL MUSIC? nac
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
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3/6/2012 10:27:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:24:56 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:08:59 PM, 000ike wrote:
The forums are an ungodly circus.
Indeed and agreed my half way socialist friend :)
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3/6/2012 10:28:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:21:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:01:19 PM, rogue wrote:
I was highly offended by JT's b!tchy little thread. So I'm gonna make one equally as offensive and ignorantly stereotypical.

Bad economy?

Deregulation and Obama's socialism!



Deregulation is a good thing and Obama's socialism is the main cause. That is reality.

No! Obama is not socialist! Look! http://www.politicalcompass.org...



Gay Marriage?

It will lead to bestiality!



I'm not in that crowd.




Abortion?

You're killing babies! Let's forget all about the mother!




Most cons want exception for mother's life. And, yes, we think that killing a baby is wrong, even if it is inconvienent to the mother.

Lol. Inconvenient is a gross understatement. It can ruin her life! You aren't killing the baby. It is a bunch of cells. It isn't a person. The mother is.




Way to fix things?

Deregulation(letting bad businesses be able to make more mistakes) and letting businesses plummet and put millions out of jobs




Just let the free market work.

So we just let businesses exploit everyone?





Welfare?

Those impoverished people are all just lazy and its their own fault they are bad off even though the job economy is so bad! Let's just let them suffer!







Or, reform the system so there is not such a disincentive to work.

not opposed to that...



Health care?

Let's let businesses who only care about profit run it!




Or, just let the free market work.

When it comes to health care, profit should not be a consideration!





Taxes?

Evil! It's stealing! I can't afford to give to my country and help those less well-off even though I don't need this money and they do!





It's called charity. Retard.

You think that many people would give to charity? Plus are charities that organized and widespread? Retard.



In the end, it's all about profit and business without any care about the costs of letting that be the priority. It is scary that people can be so unfeeling towards those who have so much less than us. And they claim to be the generous, virtuous, family oriented Christians....


Ya, these are all strawmen. Mine were actual liberal perceptions.

No they weren't. That was the point of my thread.
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3/6/2012 10:29:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:26:30 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:25:16 PM, Deathbeforedishonour wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:22:06 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:20:45 PM, 000ike wrote:
everyone should just listen to this and relax. :p

.... :)

)...Bob Marley is better....:)

Y U NO LIKE CLASSICAL MUSIC? nac

I love classical music (Bach is my favorate). However, Reggae has more relaxing qualities to it.
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." ~ John 1:1

Matthew 10:22- "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
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3/6/2012 10:29:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:28:38 PM, rogue wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:21:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:01:19 PM, rogue wrote:
I was highly offended by JT's b!tchy little thread. So I'm gonna make one equally as offensive and ignorantly stereotypical.

Bad economy?

Deregulation and Obama's socialism!



Deregulation is a good thing and Obama's socialism is the main cause. That is reality.

No! Obama is not socialist! Look! http://www.politicalcompass.org...

What in the hell!?



Gay Marriage?

It will lead to bestiality!



I'm not in that crowd.




Abortion?

You're killing babies! Let's forget all about the mother!




Most cons want exception for mother's life. And, yes, we think that killing a baby is wrong, even if it is inconvienent to the mother.

Lol. Inconvenient is a gross understatement. It can ruin her life! You aren't killing the baby. It is a bunch of cells. It isn't a person. The mother is.




Way to fix things?

Deregulation(letting bad businesses be able to make more mistakes) and letting businesses plummet and put millions out of jobs




Just let the free market work.

So we just let businesses exploit everyone?





Welfare?

Those impoverished people are all just lazy and its their own fault they are bad off even though the job economy is so bad! Let's just let them suffer!







Or, reform the system so there is not such a disincentive to work.

not opposed to that...



Health care?

Let's let businesses who only care about profit run it!




Or, just let the free market work.

When it comes to health care, profit should not be a consideration!





Taxes?

Evil! It's stealing! I can't afford to give to my country and help those less well-off even though I don't need this money and they do!





It's called charity. Retard.

You think that many people would give to charity? Plus are charities that organized and widespread? Retard.



In the end, it's all about profit and business without any care about the costs of letting that be the priority. It is scary that people can be so unfeeling towards those who have so much less than us. And they claim to be the generous, virtuous, family oriented Christians....


Ya, these are all strawmen. Mine were actual liberal perceptions.

No they weren't. That was the point of my thread.
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3/6/2012 10:30:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:25:37 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:24:16 PM, nonentity wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:21:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:

Or, just let the free market work.



Sorry, I deleted too much of the post, but it was regarding healthcare.

Universal healthcare has been working for the countries who have it.


Not quite.

Can you say "utter failure"?

lol In what way?

http://en.wikipedia.org...
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3/6/2012 10:31:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:29:57 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:28:38 PM, rogue wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:21:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:01:19 PM, rogue wrote:
I was highly offended by JT's b!tchy little thread. So I'm gonna make one equally as offensive and ignorantly stereotypical.

Bad economy?

Deregulation and Obama's socialism!



Deregulation is a good thing and Obama's socialism is the main cause. That is reality.

No! Obama is not socialist! Look! http://www.politicalcompass.org...

What in the hell!?
http://www.ontheissues.org...

"hard core liberal".... I believe that more then that...




Gay Marriage?

It will lead to bestiality!



I'm not in that crowd.




Abortion?

You're killing babies! Let's forget all about the mother!




Most cons want exception for mother's life. And, yes, we think that killing a baby is wrong, even if it is inconvienent to the mother.

Lol. Inconvenient is a gross understatement. It can ruin her life! You aren't killing the baby. It is a bunch of cells. It isn't a person. The mother is.




Way to fix things?

Deregulation(letting bad businesses be able to make more mistakes) and letting businesses plummet and put millions out of jobs




Just let the free market work.

So we just let businesses exploit everyone?





Welfare?

Those impoverished people are all just lazy and its their own fault they are bad off even though the job economy is so bad! Let's just let them suffer!







Or, reform the system so there is not such a disincentive to work.

not opposed to that...



Health care?

Let's let businesses who only care about profit run it!




Or, just let the free market work.

When it comes to health care, profit should not be a consideration!





Taxes?

Evil! It's stealing! I can't afford to give to my country and help those less well-off even though I don't need this money and they do!





It's called charity. Retard.

You think that many people would give to charity? Plus are charities that organized and widespread? Retard.



In the end, it's all about profit and business without any care about the costs of letting that be the priority. It is scary that people can be so unfeeling towards those who have so much less than us. And they claim to be the generous, virtuous, family oriented Christians....


Ya, these are all strawmen. Mine were actual liberal perceptions.

No they weren't. That was the point of my thread.
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross
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3/6/2012 10:32:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
"One historical problem with the U.S. system was known as job lock, in which people become tied to their jobs for fear of losing their health insurance. This reduces the flexibility of the labor market"
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3/6/2012 10:32:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/6/2012 10:29:57 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:28:38 PM, rogue wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:21:43 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 3/6/2012 10:01:19 PM, rogue wrote:
I was highly offended by JT's b!tchy little thread. So I'm gonna make one equally as offensive and ignorantly stereotypical.

Bad economy?

Deregulation and Obama's socialism!



Deregulation is a good thing and Obama's socialism is the main cause. That is reality.

No! Obama is not socialist! Look! http://www.politicalcompass.org...

What in the hell!?

Ikr? Its the truth though...