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GeoLaureate8
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3/9/2012 4:45:55 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Kony2012 is another fraud and an attempt to create a boogie man as an excuse to invade Uganda. The President of Uganda has committed mass genocides worse than Kony. Now all the people are rallying behind this effort so now the government can justify another invasion.
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3/9/2012 4:59:24 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 4:45:55 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:


Kony2012 is another fraud and an attempt to create a boogie man as an excuse to invade Uganda. The President of Uganda has committed mass genocides worse than Kony. Now all the people are rallying behind this effort so now the government can justify another invasion.

If the United States needed a justification to invade Uganda, would they not simply claim that the Ugandan state itself is complicit in the perpetration of genocide?
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3/9/2012 5:27:52 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 4:59:24 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 3/9/2012 4:45:55 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:

Kony2012 is another fraud and an attempt to create a boogie man as an excuse to invade Uganda. The President of Uganda has committed mass genocides worse than Kony. Now all the people are rallying behind this effort so now the government can justify another invasion.

If the United States needed a justification to invade Uganda, would they not simply claim that the Ugandan state itself is complicit in the perpetration of genocide?

Because Kony is easier to make a boogie man out of?
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3/9/2012 7:32:24 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Kony2012 is another fraud and an attempt to create a boogie man as an excuse to invade Uganda. The President of Uganda has committed mass genocides worse than Kony. Now all the people are rallying behind this effort so now the government can justify another invasion.:

We've known about these crimes, and similar one's in the African interior, for over 2 decades. Why hasn't the U.S. invaded before then? Because there's no self-interest in it.

The government is the one's who don't want to go into it, so if it's an alleged "boogie man," who's interests are it serving? If the U.S. send any troops, it's only at the behest of the American public.
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3/9/2012 10:17:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
For the eighteenth time, the reason why Kony is targetted and not an entire government, is because he is a man and not an entire government. Killing him does not require diplomacy and a damned Congressional order passed by the Pres. It only requires that a domestic policing agency (SS, CIA, Marines, Spec Ops, etc.) cooperate with whatever government in which that person lives. In other words, if Uganda gives us the okay, then we can just walk in there and shoot him in the head, no questions asked. If we, instead, had a problem with the Ugnadan government, we'd need to declare war.

Geo, the man spearheading this is essentially promulgating precisely the same thing the Buddha is. If he is successful, we are that much closer to Enlightenment.

What's your contention, buddy?
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3/9/2012 10:19:13 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Lmfao, I love how people keep repeating "there's no interest in it," as though money is so much more important than the lives of children.

That's hilarious.

Little green pieces of paper partially made of shtt that we can't even legally buy because it makes us feel good except from the government that still takes a percentage of it back because they call themselves "the government" is more important than hundreds of thousands of children.

Sometimes, people disgust me.
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3/9/2012 1:01:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 10:19:13 AM, Ren wrote:
Lmfao, I love how people keep repeating "there's no interest in it," as though money is so much more important than the lives of children.

That's hilarious.

Little green pieces of paper partially made of shtt that we can't even legally buy because it makes us feel good except from the government that still takes a percentage of it back because they call themselves "the government" is more important than hundreds of thousands of children.

Sometimes, people disgust me.

There's no TANGIBLE reason to invade, and invading on principle is unreasonable:

Russia is undemocratic and Putin horribly biases elections
China has many, man,y many human rights abuses
North Korea ignores all treaties we want them to sign and human rights abuse and undemocratic.

We don't invade because it is ludicrous to invade on these principles: no war is more beneficial to people in general.
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3/9/2012 1:14:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 10:19:13 AM, Ren wrote:
Lmfao, I love how people keep repeating "there's no interest in it," as though money is so much more important than the lives of children.:

Remember this is in response to Geo. I'm under the assumption that Geo believes that the government is behind this Kony 2012 movement, and that they are using it as a pretext to go to war. Of course, that's ridiculous because the U.S. would never go into any war unless it served their interests. This is not the first act of genocide in recent times that the U.S. government turned a blind eye to.

This has nothing to do with making a moral judgment on whether the U.S. military should be involved or not, it's about showing Geo that it's not a conspiracy.
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3/9/2012 1:16:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 10:19:13 AM, Ren wrote:
Lmfao, I love how people keep repeating "there's no interest in it," as though money is so much more important than the lives of children.

That's hilarious.

Little green pieces of paper partially made of shtt that we can't even legally buy because it makes us feel good except from the government that still takes a percentage of it back because they call themselves "the government" is more important than hundreds of thousands of children.

Sometimes, people disgust me.

Self interest always trumps altruism.

Read Ayn Rand.
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3/9/2012 1:50:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 1:14:49 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 3/9/2012 10:19:13 AM, Ren wrote:
Lmfao, I love how people keep repeating "there's no interest in it," as though money is so much more important than the lives of children.:

Remember this is in response to Geo. I'm under the assumption that Geo believes that the government is behind this Kony 2012 movement, and that they are using it as a pretext to go to war. Of course, that's ridiculous because the U.S. would never go into any war unless it served their interests. This is not the first act of genocide in recent times that the U.S. government turned a blind eye to.

Lol, oh.
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3/9/2012 1:53:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 1:16:30 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Self interest always trumps altruism.

Read Ayn Rand.

Lol, based on what? According to who, aside an esoteric, narcissitic, myopic philosopher bastardizing Utilitarianism to conform to Imperialistic agendas?

Egoism is self-defeatist in the way that credit is self-defeatist. Altruism is the primary basis of survival for organisms on this planet.

But, you should know: petty name-dropping is a neg when speaking to Ren, Jewfro.
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3/9/2012 2:08:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 1:53:48 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/9/2012 1:16:30 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Self interest always trumps altruism.

Read Ayn Rand.

Lol, based on what? According to who, aside an esoteric, narcissitic, myopic philosopher bastardizing Utilitarianism to conform to Imperialistic agendas?

Only the most famous philosopher of the past century. No biggie.

Egoism is self-defeatist in the way that credit is self-defeatist. Altruism is the primary basis of survival for organisms on this planet.

Altruism requires self sacrifice for foreign gain. Altruism might be present within family units in nature. However, no amount of altruism is present when dealing with foreigners. Animals constantly eat each other. This is not altruistic. Arguing that altruism is present in nature in places other than family units is absurd. Since Uganda is not part of "family unit" with the US (no direct interests for preservation), biology dictates that we should not obtain pain to lessen the pain of complete foreigners.

But, you should know: petty name-dropping is a neg when speaking to Ren, Jewfro.

Lol. Insults are the most graceless way of accepting defeat.
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3/9/2012 2:13:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 2:08:11 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Only the most famous philosopher of the past century. No biggie.

Lmfao.

Nuh huh. Tupac is the most famous philospher of the last eon.

Now what?

Altruism requires self sacrifice for foreign gain.

No. Altruism is individual sacrifice for collective gain. See: warning calls when a predator approaches a group of prey.

Altruism might be present within family units in nature.

As well as communities, etc.

However, no amount of altruism is present when dealing with foreigners.

Define "foreigners," given nationalism is (an imperfect) human construct.

Animals constantly eat each other.

No. Predators eat prey; scavengers eat carrion.

This is not altruistic.

Nor is it evidenciary of any sort of understanding of biology whatsoever.

Arguing that altruism is present in nature in places other than family units is absurd.

Lol, I can't trust you to feel stupid on your own, so I'm just going to come right out and tell you that you're an idiot.

http://plato.stanford.edu...

Since Uganda is not part of "family unit" with the US (no direct interests for preservation),

They're not humans?

biology dictates

Lmfao, I'm stopping here. I can barely read between laughter and disgust.
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3/9/2012 2:28:24 PM
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Wow, I just finished watching this vid in class. :P
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3/9/2012 3:50:35 PM
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It seems no one watched the video in the OP. Alex Jones breaks it down so none of you guys would be saying this ridiculous stuff.
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3/9/2012 3:52:21 PM
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At 3/9/2012 3:50:35 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It seems no one watched the video in the OP. Alex Jones breaks it down so none of you guys would be saying this ridiculous stuff.
The video has been taken down so we never got to see it.

Also, the thesis must be idiotic so we pay it no heed.
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3/9/2012 4:06:41 PM
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At 3/9/2012 3:50:35 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It seems no one watched the video in the OP. Alex Jones breaks it down so none of you guys would be saying this ridiculous stuff.

Yeah, I really wanna see it. But the video's down.
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3/9/2012 4:16:45 PM
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Nowhere in the video does it say moving more troops to Uganda, it only is rallying support to keep the 100 US adviser already there to stay there and to spread the word about who this guy is and what he is doing...

(waits for counter argument from Geo about how this is a NWO conspiracy)
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3/9/2012 4:17:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 3:50:35 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It seems no one watched the video in the OP. Alex Jones breaks it down so none of you guys would be saying this ridiculous stuff.

Summarize it for us, Geo! I want to feel ridiculous!! :D
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3/9/2012 4:23:10 PM
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At 3/9/2012 1:53:48 PM, Ren wrote:
Egoism is self-defeatist in the way that credit is self-defeatist.

What way is that?

Also... I don't know if I fit the bill for an Egoist.. But Only my own cares are relevant to me.. and are the only thing that could Could possibly Give weight(in my view) to any "should" assertion.

Altruism is the primary basis of survival for organisms on this planet.

Umm... I don't think so... Bacteria.. Flies... are they all altruistic? o.O

Now.. People, Apes, other mammals that are heavily dependent upon parents for rearing.. ok...

Also... Though I acknowledge that the way in which most people use the term "egoist".. Egoism is pretty much a person's cares Trimmed to exclude any altruistic goals.... But I think that's silly.. For I would help others to feel good myself ;)
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3/9/2012 4:23:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 4:23:10 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
Also... Though I acknowledge that the way in which most people use the term "egoist".. Egoism is pretty much a person's cares Trimmed to exclude any altruistic goals.... But I think that's silly.. For I would help others to feel good myself ;)


And to avoid feeling bad.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

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3/9/2012 4:25:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 4:17:41 PM, Ren wrote:
I want to feel ridiculous!! :D

I would imagine you should feel ridiculous all the time...

That is if you're feelings accurately depict reality for ya :P
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3/9/2012 4:30:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 4:25:21 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
That, is if your feelings accurately reflect reality for ya :P

Fixed.

If you try a little harder, you might just succeed at insutling me.

But, don't quit now. A year's worth of work is a lot of investment to just give up.
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3/9/2012 4:31:28 PM
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LoLoL, that comma should have been after "is."

But, well, I didn't hack the whole sentence apart stumbling over an insult, so I'll save that ridiculousness for you, as you need it more.

Geo? Still waiting.
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3/9/2012 4:34:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 4:30:08 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/9/2012 4:25:21 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
That, is if your feelings accurately reflect reality for ya :P

Fixed.

Umm.. you added a comma.. o.O

but.. I think you did it in the wrong place.

Good job at Fcking up being a moron.

If you try a little harder, you might just succeed at insutling me.

Nice comma... But I wouldn't care to insutl you.

But, don't quit now. A year's worth of work is a lot of investment to just give up.

8)
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3/9/2012 4:40:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 4:25:21 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
That, is if your feelings accurately reflect reality for ya :P

oh!, I see you also fixed my unnecessary apostraphe! :)

Good job Ren! Your smart
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3/9/2012 4:42:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Ren must be the most conceited member on DDO when judged relative to his actual abilities. The guy acts like he is wisdom incarnate while the things he says have less logic applied to them than a youtube comment.
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3/9/2012 5:01:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/9/2012 4:40:32 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 3/9/2012 4:25:21 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
That, is if your feelings accurately reflect reality for ya :P

oh!, I see you also fixed my unnecessary apostraphe! :)

Apostrophe.

Good job Ren! Your smart

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