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Why the political compass is pure BS

DanT
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3/12/2012 12:35:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Left vs Right

The Political Compass defines Left and Right as socioeconomic, however Left and Right in reality is actually sociocultural.

(n) left wing (those who support varying degrees of social or political or economic change designed to promote the public welfare)
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu...
(n) right wing (those who support political or social or economic conservatism; those who believe that things are better left unchanged)
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu...

The political Compass is loosely based on the Nolan Chart, which defines Right wing as having more economic freedom, and Left wing having more personal freedom. The Nolan Chart was a provisional chart created by David Nolan, to help explain libertarianism in the 1970's.
The Nolan Chart was based on The Floodgates of Anarchy Chart by Stuart Christie and Albert Meltzer, in which left and right was defined as collectivism/social democracy vs capitalism/conservatism.

The Floodgate to Anarchy Chart was he first to mistake left and right for a socioeconomic scale. When the Nolan Chart adapted the Floodgate scale the changed the position of the axises. When the Political compass copied the Nolan Chart, they readopted the Floodgate Chart's version of Left and Right.

The only political spectrum chart I can find that actually got the definitions of Left and Right correct was Hans Slomp's 2000 projection of the European political spectrum, which defines Left as "Progressive" and Right as "conservative". Sadly this chart also defined libertarian as "progressive" and authoritarian as "conservative", which completely ruins the chart.

Axis of the charts

The Floodgate to Anarchy Chart's
X = Socioeconomic (wrong)
Y = Socialpolitical (right)
Left-Right Axis = X (wrong)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com...

The Nolan chart rotated the chart so the axis would be diagonal, this in my opinion was a mistake, because it focuses on the wrong axises, even though it got the diagonal axises right.

The Nolan Chart
X = socioeconomic (right)
Y = Sociocultural (right)
Left-Right Axis = Z (wrong)
http://upload.wikimedia.org...

The Political Compass
X = socioeconomic (wrong)
Y = sociopolitical (right)
Left-Right axis = X (wrong)
http://upload.wikimedia.org...

Hans Slomp projection of the European political spectrum
X = Sociocultural (right)
Y = Sociocultural (wrong)
Left-Right Axis = X (right)
http://upload.wikimedia.org...

Authoritarian vs Libertarian

Authoritarianism vs Libertarianism deals with Sociopolitics, not Socioculturalism, so when one assumes that the such an axis is sociocultural driven, it ruins the political spectrum chart.

combing the right axises to create an accurate chart

The Hans Slomp projection of the European political spectrum was the most accurate with their Left-Right spectrum, therefore Progressivism is Left wing, and Conservatism is Right wing. This matches up with the definitions provided by the Princeton dictionary.

The The Floodgate to Anarchy Chart, and the Political spectrum chart was both right, in regards to the authoritarian vs libertarian axis, however The floodgate chart falsely placed collectivism on a different axis than individualism. The opposite of Individualism is collectivism, therefore collectivism is sociopolitical.

The Nolan chart was falsely rotated at an angle, if they did not rotate their chart, they would have been more accurate. Therefore the Nolan Chart's X axis becomes the New Z axis. This means that Socioeconomic collectivism is Left Wing Authoritarianism. Socioeconomic collectivism is socialism, therefore socioeconomic individualism is capitalism. Since there is no capitalist party, we much choose the best fit, which is classic liberalism, which is where we get the term "liberal market", meaning "free market economics"

The Floodgate chart was also correct in labeling Anarchism as Left wing individualism, therefore right wing collectivism would be nationalism, the opposite of anarchism. This correlates with National-Socialists being the origin of the word fascist.

So now we have determined that;
X = Sociocultural, Left vs Right
Y = Sociopolitical, Individualism vs Collectivism
Z = Socioeconomics, Capitalism vs Socialism
Left = Proressivism
Right = Conservatism
Individualism = Libertarianism
Collectivism = Fascism
Left Wing Collectivism = Socialism
Right Wig Individualism = Classic Liberalism
Left Wing Individualism = Anarchism
Right Wing collectivism = Nationalism

Now we have a chart that looks something like this;
http://www.debate.org...

Now if we look at the Hans Slomp projection of the European political spectrum again, we see that they have two separate "conservatism", "Liberal-Conservatism" or "Conservative-Liberalism" as they labeled it, and "conservatism". "Conservatism" could be renamed "traditional conservatism", more commonly known as toryism in the UK, while "Liberal-Cnservtism" is the less authoritarian counterpart, combing classic liberalism, and traditional conservatism.

So now we have split Conservatism into 2 aspects, just as libertarianism, and fascism was split into two aspects.
Progressivism can likewise be split into two aspects. As noted in the Hans Slomp projection, social-liberalism" is an individualist ideology, only he mistakenly placed it in the center, when it should be placed where "social democracy" is located, as "social-liberalism" is so closely related to "Progressivism" that in today's politics we often call "social-liberals", "progressives". "social-liberalism" is also just as authoritarian as "liberal-conservatism", as American Liberals are social-liberals, and American conservatives are liberal-conservatives. This correlates with the Nolan chart, which says that the left is Liberal, and the right is conservative.

That leaves the collectivist aspect of progressivism open. The Nolan chart claims populists are authoritarian, but really populists are a stepping stone to fascists ideologies, because they push for change according to the will of the majority. Progressivism was highly influenced by populism, thus populism is the best qualified to fit this empty slot.

So now we have determined that;
X = Sociocultural, Left vs Right
Y = Sociopolitical, Individualism vs Collectivism
Z = Socioeconomics, Capitalism vs Socialism
Left = Proressivism
Right = Conservatism
Individualism = Libertarianism
Collectivism = Fascism
Left Wing Fascism = Socialism
Right Wig Libertarianism = Classic Liberalism
Left Wing Libertarianism = Anarchism
Right Wing Fascism = Nationalism
Collectivist Conservatism = Traditional Conservatism
Individualist Conservatism = Liberal Conservatism
Collectivist Progressivism = Populism
Individualist Progressivism = Social-Liberalism

By combing the accurate aspects of each chart, and dropping the inaccuracies, we are left with a chart that looks like this;
http://www.debate.org...
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3/12/2012 1:40:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
interesting
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https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
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