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DanT
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3/14/2012 5:48:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
1.) Where in the Constitution does it give congress the power to make the possession of marijuana illegal?
2.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to make the sale of marijuana illegal?
3.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to regulate and/o define marriage?
4.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to issue permits ?
5.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to subsidize farming?
6.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to fund "green" technology
7.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to run a public insurance company
8.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tax one segment of the population heavier than the other?
9.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to quarter segments of the population?
10.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to use drones to kill US citizens without trial, or a hearing of any kind?
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3/14/2012 5:50:55 PM
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The constitution gives the government the power to do absolutely anything besides certain limitations which it lists. This replaced the Articles of Confederation which was the other way around.
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3/14/2012 5:55:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 5:50:55 PM, FREEDO wrote:
The constitution gives the government the power to do absolutely anything besides certain limitations which it lists. This replaced the Articles of Confederation which was the other way around.

No we have a limited Federal Government. the powers of congress is defined in article 1 section 8, and specific limitations on the powers listed in article 1 section 8 are given in article 1 section 9.
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3/14/2012 5:55:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 5:50:55 PM, FREEDO wrote:
The constitution gives the government the power to do absolutely anything besides certain limitations which it lists. This replaced the Articles of Confederation which was the other way around.

Unless, of course, you acknowledge the existence of the 10th Amendment, but it's been ignored out of existence.
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3/14/2012 5:57:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 5:55:51 PM, mongeese wrote:
At 3/14/2012 5:50:55 PM, FREEDO wrote:
The constitution gives the government the power to do absolutely anything besides certain limitations which it lists. This replaced the Articles of Confederation which was the other way around.

Unless, of course, you acknowledge the existence of the 10th Amendment, but it's been ignored out of existence.

I think Freedo earned a spot in my sig
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3/14/2012 6:37:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 5:48:42 PM, DanT wrote:
1.) Where in the Constitution does it give congress the power to make the possession of marijuana illegal?
It isnt illegal at the federal level.
2.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to make the sale of marijuana illegal?
see above
3.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to regulate and/o define marriage?
Congress may pass laws, marriage is a State issue.
4.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to issue permits ?
Fed doesnt issue permits, it does issue passports.
5.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to subsidize farming?
Congress can do wt it wants with the money.
6.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to fund "green" technology
7.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to run a public insurance company
8.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tax one segment of the population heavier than the other?
9.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to quarter segments of the population?
10.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to use drones to kill US citizens without trial, or a hearing of any kind?
Congress doesn't use drones

Civics 1 for the challenged. There are three separate but EQUAL branches of government. Most Crimes are State matters except for those regarding agencies of the executive. (eg IRS) The determiner of the constitutionality of a Statute or policy is the Supreme Court of the United States. All branches make law.

The above questions show a real ignorance of US law, and fundamental civics. The Constitution is not a Bible, it is interpreted by Justices, and as Hamilton said The Court is not infallible because it is right it is infallible because it is last.

Fact we all should know....In the US one can not commit treason unless there is a legally declared war.
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3/14/2012 6:42:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 5:48:42 PM, DanT wrote:
1.) Where in the Constitution does it give congress the power to make the possession of marijuana illegal?
2.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to make the sale of marijuana illegal?
3.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to regulate and/o define marriage?
4.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to issue permits ?
5.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to subsidize farming?
6.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to fund "green" technology
7.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to run a public insurance company
8.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tax one segment of the population heavier than the other?
9.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to quarter segments of the population?
10.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to use drones to kill US citizens without trial, or a hearing of any kind?

United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3)

read it and weep son.
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3/14/2012 6:49:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 6:42:31 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2012 5:48:42 PM, DanT wrote:
1.) Where in the Constitution does it give congress the power to make the possession of marijuana illegal?
2.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to make the sale of marijuana illegal?
3.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to regulate and/o define marriage?
4.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to issue permits ?
5.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to subsidize farming?
6.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to fund "green" technology
7.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to run a public insurance company
8.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tax one segment of the population heavier than the other?
9.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to quarter segments of the population?
10.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to use drones to kill US citizens without trial, or a hearing of any kind?

United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3)

read it and weep son.

"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; "

So international, and interstate commerce; that's just exports and imports, it's not sales or possessions.
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
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3/14/2012 6:51:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 6:49:46 PM, DanT wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:42:31 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2012 5:48:42 PM, DanT wrote:
1.) Where in the Constitution does it give congress the power to make the possession of marijuana illegal?
2.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to make the sale of marijuana illegal?
3.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to regulate and/o define marriage?
4.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to issue permits ?
5.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to subsidize farming?
6.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to fund "green" technology
7.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to run a public insurance company
8.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tax one segment of the population heavier than the other?
9.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to quarter segments of the population?
10.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to use drones to kill US citizens without trial, or a hearing of any kind?

United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3)

read it and weep son.

"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; "

So international, and interstate commerce; that's just exports and imports, it's not sales or possessions.

According to the supreme court, anything from prostitution, to alcohol, to universal health care gets shoved under this catch all word "commerce"
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3/14/2012 6:56:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 6:51:37 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:49:46 PM, DanT wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:42:31 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2012 5:48:42 PM, DanT wrote:
1.) Where in the Constitution does it give congress the power to make the possession of marijuana illegal?
2.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to make the sale of marijuana illegal?
3.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to regulate and/o define marriage?
4.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to issue permits ?
5.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to subsidize farming?
6.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to fund "green" technology
7.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to run a public insurance company
8.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tax one segment of the population heavier than the other?
9.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to quarter segments of the population?
10.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to use drones to kill US citizens without trial, or a hearing of any kind?

United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3)

read it and weep son.

"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; "

So international, and interstate commerce; that's just exports and imports, it's not sales or possessions.

According to the supreme court, anything from prostitution, to alcohol, to universal health care gets shoved under this catch all word "commerce"

But is it interstate commerce? That's the question.
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3/14/2012 7:03:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 6:56:43 PM, mongeese wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:51:37 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:49:46 PM, DanT wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:42:31 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2012 5:48:42 PM, DanT wrote:
1.) Where in the Constitution does it give congress the power to make the possession of marijuana illegal?
2.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to make the sale of marijuana illegal?
3.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to regulate and/o define marriage?
4.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to issue permits ?
5.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to subsidize farming?
6.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to fund "green" technology
7.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to run a public insurance company
8.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tax one segment of the population heavier than the other?
9.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to quarter segments of the population?
10.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to use drones to kill US citizens without trial, or a hearing of any kind?

United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3)

read it and weep son.

"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; "

So international, and interstate commerce; that's just exports and imports, it's not sales or possessions.

According to the supreme court, anything from prostitution, to alcohol, to universal health care gets shoved under this catch all word "commerce"

But is it interstate commerce? That's the question.

And the courts since 1930 have caved in and destroyed the initial intention of the clause which was to destroy interstate protectionist tarrifs and enforce free trade, The courts now decide that if any commerce in a state can directly or INDIRECTLY effect another state, well then the congress can slap a 'remedy' on that.

It's not always abused for example:
In 1990, Congress passed the Gun-Free School Zones Act, citing their powers under the "commerce clause." Namely, the possession of a firearm in a local school zone substantially affected interstate commerce. Why? Violent crime raises insurance costs and those costs are spread throughout the population.

But oh there have been plenty of abuses, and the current court interpretation allows a ton of congressional power that is extremely far from what the founders intended.
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3/14/2012 7:07:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 6:37:17 PM, logicrules wrote:
At 3/14/2012 5:48:42 PM, DanT wrote:
1.) Where in the Constitution does it give congress the power to make the possession of marijuana illegal?
It isnt illegal at the federal level.

"Unless specifically excepted or unless listed in another schedule, any material, compound, mixture, or preparation, which contains any quantity of the following hallucinogenic substances, or which contains any of their salts, isomers, and salts of isomers whenever the existence of such salts, isomers, and salts of isomers is possible within the specific chemical designation:

(1) 3,4-methylenedioxy amphetamine.
(2) 5-methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy amphetamine.
(3) 3,4,5-trimethoxy amphetamine.
(4) Bufotenine.
(5) Diethyltryptamine.
(6) Dimethyltryptamine.
(7) 4-methyl-2,5-diamethoxyamphetamine.
(8) Ibogaine.
(9) Lysergic acid diethylamide.
(10) Marihuana.
(11) Mescaline.
(12) Peyote.
(13) N-ethyl-3-piperidyl benzilate.
(14) N-methyl-3-piperidyl benzilate.
(15) Psilocybin.
(16) Psilocyn.
(17) Tetrahydrocannabinols" ~ Controlled Substances Act, PART B, § 812., SCHEDULE I (c)

http://www.fda.gov...

2.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to make the sale of marijuana illegal?
see above

Ditto

3.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to regulate and/o define marriage?
Congress may pass laws, marriage is a State issue.

I know marriage is a state issue, that's the point I was making.

4.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to issue permits ?
Fed doesnt issue permits, it does issue passports.

Ever hear of a FFP?

https://www.atfonline.gov...

5.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to subsidize farming?
Congress can do wt it wants with the money.

No it can't, read article 1 section 8.

6.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to fund "green" technology
7.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to run a public insurance company
8.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tax one segment of the population heavier than the other?
9.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to quarter segments of the population?
10.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to use drones to kill US citizens without trial, or a hearing of any kind?
Congress doesn't use drones

Civics 1 for the challenged. There are three separate but EQUAL branches of government. Most Crimes are State matters except for those regarding agencies of the executive. (eg IRS) The determiner of the constitutionality of a Statute or policy is the Supreme Court of the United States. All branches make law.

The above questions show a real ignorance of US law, and fundamental civics. The Constitution is not a Bible, it is interpreted by Justices, and as Hamilton said The Court is not infallible because it is right it is infallible because it is last.

Fact we all should know....In the US one can not commit treason unless there is a legally declared war.

I meant President, that was a typo
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3/14/2012 7:09:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 7:00:44 PM, FREEDO wrote:
If the constitution limits stuff, why hasn't it limited stuff?

philosorapter.jpg

A. you typed the URL wrong
B. because they go against the constitution
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3/14/2012 7:11:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 6:51:37 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:49:46 PM, DanT wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:42:31 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2012 5:48:42 PM, DanT wrote:
1.) Where in the Constitution does it give congress the power to make the possession of marijuana illegal?
2.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to make the sale of marijuana illegal?
3.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to regulate and/o define marriage?
4.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to issue permits ?
5.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to subsidize farming?
6.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to fund "green" technology
7.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to run a public insurance company
8.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tax one segment of the population heavier than the other?
9.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to quarter segments of the population?
10.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to use drones to kill US citizens without trial, or a hearing of any kind?

United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3)

read it and weep son.

"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; "

So international, and interstate commerce; that's just exports and imports, it's not sales or possessions.

According to the supreme court, anything from prostitution, to alcohol, to universal health care gets shoved under this catch all word "commerce"

name the supreme court case, and give an exact quote
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3/14/2012 7:21:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 7:03:29 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:56:43 PM, mongeese wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:51:37 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:49:46 PM, DanT wrote:
At 3/14/2012 6:42:31 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 3/14/2012 5:48:42 PM, DanT wrote:
1.) Where in the Constitution does it give congress the power to make the possession of marijuana illegal?
2.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to make the sale of marijuana illegal?
3.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to regulate and/o define marriage?
4.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to issue permits ?
5.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to subsidize farming?
6.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to fund "green" technology
7.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to run a public insurance company
8.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tax one segment of the population heavier than the other?
9.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to quarter segments of the population?
10.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to use drones to kill US citizens without trial, or a hearing of any kind?

United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3)

read it and weep son.

"To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; "

So international, and interstate commerce; that's just exports and imports, it's not sales or possessions.

According to the supreme court, anything from prostitution, to alcohol, to universal health care gets shoved under this catch all word "commerce"

But is it interstate commerce? That's the question.

And the courts since 1930 have caved in and destroyed the initial intention of the clause which was to destroy interstate protectionist tarrifs and enforce free trade, The courts now decide that if any commerce in a state can directly or INDIRECTLY effect another state, well then the congress can slap a 'remedy' on that.

Of course, the courts can be wrong, and in this case, there's no way they're right.

It's not always abused for example:
In 1990, Congress passed the Gun-Free School Zones Act, citing their powers under the "commerce clause." Namely, the possession of a firearm in a local school zone substantially affected interstate commerce. Why? Violent crime raises insurance costs and those costs are spread throughout the population.

That most definitely sounds like abuse. It there a more ridiculous justification for the constitutionality of a law?

But oh there have been plenty of abuses, and the current court interpretation allows a ton of congressional power that is extremely far from what the founders intended.

Agreed wholeheartedly.
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3/14/2012 7:31:50 PM
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11. Where in the constitution does it say we can't bomb government offices?

Your logic is flawed.
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3/14/2012 7:37:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 7:31:50 PM, Irkutsk wrote:
11. Where in the constitution does it say we can't bomb government offices?

Your logic is flawed.

A.) "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court." ~ article 3 section 3

B.) You are talking about the limits of the people, I am talking about the limits of congress
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3/14/2012 7:47:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 7:18:15 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
wickard vs. filburn

UNITED STATES v. LOPEZ 1995 prohibits congress from interfering in commerce "which is completely internal, which is carried on between man and man in a State, or between different parts of the same State, and which does not extend to or affect other States."
It also enforces that congress consists of "selling, buying, and bartering, as well as transporting for these purposes", and that "commerce, agriculture, and manufacturing" should be treated "as three separate endeavors".
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com...
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3/14/2012 7:47:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 7:47:02 PM, DanT wrote:
At 3/14/2012 7:18:15 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
wickard vs. filburn

UNITED STATES v. LOPEZ 1995 prohibits congress from interfering in commerce "which is completely internal, which is carried on between man and man in a State, or between different parts of the same State, and which does not extend to or affect other States."
It also enforces that commerce consists of "selling, buying, and bartering, as well as transporting for these purposes", and that "commerce, agriculture, and manufacturing" should be treated "as three separate endeavors".
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com...

commerce not congress. another typo
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3/14/2012 9:41:03 PM
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Are we going to play the strict construction game? Really?
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3/14/2012 9:43:58 PM
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At 3/14/2012 9:41:03 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Are we going to play the strict construction game? Really?

lol It's Ron Paul's favorite pass time
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3/14/2012 9:46:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 9:43:58 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/14/2012 9:41:03 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Are we going to play the strict construction game? Really?

lol It's Ron Paul's favorite pass time

I guess, but I don't think even Paul plays this game as seriously as DanT.
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3/14/2012 9:46:58 PM
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At 3/14/2012 9:46:13 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 3/14/2012 9:43:58 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/14/2012 9:41:03 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Are we going to play the strict construction game? Really?

lol It's Ron Paul's favorite pass time

I guess, but I don't think even Paul plays this game as seriously as DanT.

You obviously don't know much about Paul then.
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3/14/2012 9:58:20 PM
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At 3/14/2012 5:48:42 PM, DanT wrote:
1.) Where in the Constitution does it give congress the power to make the possession of marijuana illegal?
2.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to make the sale of marijuana illegal?
3.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to regulate and/o define marriage?
4.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to issue permits ?
5.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to subsidize farming?
6.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to fund "green" technology
7.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to run a public insurance company
8.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to tax one segment of the population heavier than the other?
9.) where in the constitution does it give congress the power to quarter segments of the population?
10.) Where in the constitution does it give congress the power to use drones to kill US citizens without trial, or a hearing of any kind?

There are times in history when it would be best for the Constitution to take a break.
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3/14/2012 10:01:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 9:46:58 PM, Reasoning wrote:
At 3/14/2012 9:46:13 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 3/14/2012 9:43:58 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/14/2012 9:41:03 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Are we going to play the strict construction game? Really?

lol It's Ron Paul's favorite pass time

I guess, but I don't think even Paul plays this game as seriously as DanT.

You obviously don't know much about Paul then.

Even though I support Paul, he follows the constitution based on his own interpretation. There have been examples of this in how he has voted in Congress. Not many, but it is clear at he isn't following it to a T.
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3/14/2012 10:11:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 10:07:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
The Necessary and Proper Clause

Is probably the biggest mistake the framers could ever plague upon this nation.
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3/14/2012 10:22:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/14/2012 10:11:04 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/14/2012 10:07:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
The Necessary and Proper Clause

Is probably the biggest mistake the framers could ever plague upon this nation.

Agreed. The government now does whatever it wants and then cites this as justification.