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3/15/2012 5:02:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Is what ? Do you really know what is the hard core, fundamental difference between the Democratic Party, and the Republican Party. What is it about them that has made you as an individual embrace one party over the over.
I wonder if you can tell us the real reason why.
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3/15/2012 5:03:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

But there has to be something different. How are they able to operate in a world of intelligent people, if they are the exact same. Your answer is rather too simple for me.
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3/15/2012 5:44:40 PM
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3/15/2012 6:13:22 PM
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3/15/2012 6:30:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 5:02:18 PM, inferno wrote:
Is what ? Do you really know what is the hard core, fundamental difference between the Democratic Party, and the Republican Party. What is it about them that has made you as an individual embrace one party over the over.
I wonder if you can tell us the real reason why.

Republicans push for State Rights, while Democrats Push for a stronger central government.

Republicans are made up of, Liberal Conservatives, Traditional Conservatives, and Classic liberals.
Democrats are made up of, Social Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Nationalists, and Traditional Conservatives.

That's why Conservatives are the largest ideology, and Democrats are the largest party.
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3/15/2012 6:42:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Democrats are generally more left-wing, or progressive.
Republicans are generally more right-wing, or conservative.

--

Progressives believe in Effective, rather than "small" government.
Conservatives believe in a stronger defense, instead of a stronger America overall.
Progressives believe in broad prosperity, instead of free markets.
Conservatives believe in family values at the state level, Progressives believe in mutuual responsibility.
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"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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3/15/2012 7:10:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 6:42:11 PM, Contra wrote:
Democrats are generally more left-wing, or progressive.
Republicans are generally more right-wing, or conservative.

--

Progressives believe in Effective, rather than "small" government.
Conservatives believe in a stronger defense, instead of a stronger America overall.
Progressives believe in broad prosperity, instead of free markets.
Conservatives believe in family values at the state level, Progressives believe in mutuual responsibility.

wow, way to give a left wing spin. Have you tried applying for a job at MSNBC?
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3/15/2012 7:22:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 5:03:40 PM, inferno wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

But there has to be something different. How are they able to operate in a world of intelligent people, if they are the exact same. Your answer is rather too simple for me.

I don't understand your question at all.

Is there something about the way they operate that suggests to you that political parties are actually opposing "entities" with contrasting interests? Because, as far as I can tell, all evidence indicates the adverse.
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3/15/2012 8:09:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 7:22:26 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:03:40 PM, inferno wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

But there has to be something different. How are they able to operate in a world of intelligent people, if they are the exact same. Your answer is rather too simple for me.

I don't understand your question at all.

Is there something about the way they operate that suggests to you that political parties are actually opposing "entities" with contrasting interests? Because, as far as I can tell, all evidence indicates the adverse.

(n) political party (an organization to gain political power)
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu...

The first party was the Repblican Party created out of the Anti-administration party (not an official party)
The Federalist party later was created out of the Pro-administration party (again not an official party)
The Pros were for Washington, and Cons were against Washington.
Federalists were Nationalist leaning, and Republicans were Classic Liberal (Libertarian) leaning; both had traditional conservatives in their parties.
Later the Federalists were absorbed into the Republican Party.

In the first election between Jackson and John Quincy Adams, Republican vs Republican. Jackson supporters were called "Jackson's Men" (and nicknamed Jack A**es), and Supporters of John Quincy Adams were called "Adam's Men"
Adam's men were Nationalist leaning and Jackson's men were classic liberal leaning.
When Adams won he formed the "National Republican Party", and in the next election Jackson changed the name of the Republican Party to the Democratic Party, to avoid confusion.

The National Republican Party later became the whig party, which became the Republican Party, which became the National Union Party, which became the Republican Party.

Later the Nationalists switched to the Democratic Party, and the Classic Liberals split into social liberals and classic liberals, with the classic liberals joining the Republican Party.

The Democrats, having more ideologies in their party throughout the 20th century, also had more members; which is true to this day.
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3/15/2012 8:10:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 8:09:06 PM, DanT wrote:
At 3/15/2012 7:22:26 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:03:40 PM, inferno wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

But there has to be something different. How are they able to operate in a world of intelligent people, if they are the exact same. Your answer is rather too simple for me.

I don't understand your question at all.

Is there something about the way they operate that suggests to you that political parties are actually opposing "entities" with contrasting interests? Because, as far as I can tell, all evidence indicates the adverse.

(n) political party (an organization to gain political power)
http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu...

The first party was the Repblican Party created out of the Anti-administration party (not an official party)
The Federalist party later was created out of the Pro-administration party (again not an official party)
The Pros were for Washington, and Cons were against Washington.
Federalists were Nationalist leaning, and Republicans were Classic Liberal (Libertarian) leaning; both had traditional conservatives in their parties.
Later the Federalists were absorbed into the Republican Party.

In the first election between Jackson and John Quincy Adams, Republican vs Republican. Jackson supporters were called "Jackson's Men" (and nicknamed Jack A**es), and Supporters of John Quincy Adams were called "Adam's Men"
Adam's men were Nationalist leaning and Jackson's men were classic liberal leaning.
When Adams won he formed the "National Republican Party", and in the next election Jackson changed the name of the Republican Party to the Democratic Party, to avoid confusion.

The National Republican Party later became the whig party, which became the Republican Party, which became the National Union Party, which became the Republican Party.

Later the Nationalists switched to the Democratic Party, and the Classic Liberals split into social liberals and classic liberals, with the classic liberals joining the Republican Party.

The Democrats, having more ideologies in their party throughout the 20th century, also had more members; which is true to this day.

point being the main difference is Nationalism vs Classic Liberalism. (strong central government vs states rights)
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3/15/2012 9:45:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 5:03:40 PM, inferno wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

But there has to be something different. How are they able to operate in a world of intelligent people, if they are the exact same. Your answer is rather too simple for me.

"operate in a world of intelligent people" UMMMM
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
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3/16/2012 8:44:55 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 5:03:40 PM, inferno wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

But there has to be something different. How are they able to operate in a world of intelligent people, if they are the exact same. Your answer is rather too simple for me.

50% of people have an IQ of 100 or less, and 84% of people have an IQ of 115 or less. The world is far from intelligent. The more I see and interact with people, the more I think "society is f***ed".
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3/17/2012 7:44:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 6:30:04 PM, DanT wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:18 PM, inferno wrote:
Is what ? Do you really know what is the hard core, fundamental difference between the Democratic Party, and the Republican Party. What is it about them that has made you as an individual embrace one party over the over.
I wonder if you can tell us the real reason why.

Republicans push for State Rights, while Democrats Push for a stronger central government.

Republicans are made up of, Liberal Conservatives, Traditional Conservatives, and Classic liberals.
Democrats are made up of, Social Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Nationalists, and Traditional Conservatives.

That's why Conservatives are the largest ideology, and Democrats are the largest party.

Socialists rarely join the Democrats. Nationalists are usually Republicans - you don't hear Democrats making the Pledge of Allegiance mandatory.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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3/17/2012 7:50:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/16/2012 8:44:55 AM, DanT wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:03:40 PM, inferno wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

But there has to be something different. How are they able to operate in a world of intelligent people, if they are the exact same. Your answer is rather too simple for me.

50% of people have an IQ of 100 or less, and 84% of people have an IQ of 115 or less. The world is far from intelligent. The more I see and interact with people, the more I think "society is f***ed".

You do know that 100 is the standard "average," right?
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3/17/2012 7:51:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/17/2012 7:50:03 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 3/16/2012 8:44:55 AM, DanT wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:03:40 PM, inferno wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

But there has to be something different. How are they able to operate in a world of intelligent people, if they are the exact same. Your answer is rather too simple for me.

50% of people have an IQ of 100 or less, and 84% of people have an IQ of 115 or less. The world is far from intelligent. The more I see and interact with people, the more I think "society is f***ed".

You do know that 100 is the standard "average," right?

Not on the internet, where everyone's IQ is over 9000.
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3/17/2012 7:53:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 7:10:28 PM, DanT wrote:
At 3/15/2012 6:42:11 PM, Contra wrote:
Democrats are generally more left-wing, or progressive.
Republicans are generally more right-wing, or conservative.

--

Progressives believe in Effective, rather than "small" government.
Conservatives believe in a stronger defense, instead of a stronger America overall.
Progressives believe in broad prosperity, instead of free markets.
Conservatives believe in family values at the state level, Progressives believe in mutuual responsibility.

wow, way to give a left wing spin. Have you tried applying for a job at MSNBC?

It is called "reframing" the debate.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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3/17/2012 7:56:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 8:10:20 PM, DanT wrote:

point being the main difference is Nationalism vs Classic Liberalism. (strong central government vs states rights)

Those appear to be the inevitable schism in a political system that holds state and federal rights in equal regard. That is supposed to level out the schism. Of course, we can just accept it as equal, but there will always be people that disagree. Highly logical people, like Washington, Jefferson, and Adams, were fervently opposed to political parties, but they manifested anyway, inevitably, as a capitalization on the innate disagreement between people. This made electing officials much easier, for one thing.
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3/17/2012 7:59:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

lol I can't say I'm shocked by this ridiculous answer. It's one thing to disapprove of the actions of both parties,...it's another thing to fallaciously conflate them in the process.
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3/17/2012 8:46:35 PM
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A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they came to a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person his business card and told him to come to his business for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person.

The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, he decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the Republican's pocket and gave the homeless person fifty dollars.
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3/17/2012 8:59:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/17/2012 7:59:15 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

lol I can't say I'm shocked by this ridiculous answer. It's one thing to disapprove of the actions of both parties,...it's another thing to fallaciously conflate them in the process.

How are they different?
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3/17/2012 9:02:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/17/2012 8:59:51 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/17/2012 7:59:15 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

lol I can't say I'm shocked by this ridiculous answer. It's one thing to disapprove of the actions of both parties,...it's another thing to fallaciously conflate them in the process.

How are they different?

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3/17/2012 9:05:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/17/2012 8:59:51 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/17/2012 7:59:15 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

lol I can't say I'm shocked by this ridiculous answer. It's one thing to disapprove of the actions of both parties,...it's another thing to fallaciously conflate them in the process.

How are they different?

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3/17/2012 9:09:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/17/2012 9:05:32 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/17/2012 8:59:51 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/17/2012 7:59:15 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

lol I can't say I'm shocked by this ridiculous answer. It's one thing to disapprove of the actions of both parties,...it's another thing to fallaciously conflate them in the process.

How are they different?

Rhetoric

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3/17/2012 9:14:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/17/2012 8:59:51 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/17/2012 7:59:15 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

lol I can't say I'm shocked by this ridiculous answer. It's one thing to disapprove of the actions of both parties,...it's another thing to fallaciously conflate them in the process.

How are they different?

They stand for different things and different policies. While there are certain norms that remain constant within a given period of time between the 2 parties, they aren't indistinguishable. It seriously gets on my nerves how you and especially detectableninja conflate and generalize as if you're politically color blind. Conservatives and Liberals are in similar spheres ideologically, as they both raise taxes and heavily control the economy. However, there have been some conservative presidents, namely from the 20s, that refrained from economic interventionism. Democrats also take a governmental responsibility to provide universal health care and welfare, a tax rate in favor of the sociologically disadvantaged, and a liberal approach to minority rights.

I could really go on and on. You're flat out being ignorant if you continue with this asinine fusion of adequately separate things. Just because you disagree with both parties and have found a few similarities in their actions does not give you the license to render them indistinguishable.....
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3/17/2012 9:29:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/17/2012 9:14:37 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/17/2012 8:59:51 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/17/2012 7:59:15 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

lol I can't say I'm shocked by this ridiculous answer. It's one thing to disapprove of the actions of both parties,...it's another thing to fallaciously conflate them in the process.

How are they different?

They stand for different things and different policies. While there are certain norms that remain constant within a given period of time between the 2 parties, they aren't indistinguishable. It seriously gets on my nerves how you and especially detectableninja conflate and generalize as if you're politically color blind. Conservatives and Liberals are in similar spheres ideologically, as they both raise taxes and heavily control the economy. However, there have been some conservative presidents, namely from the 20s, that refrained from economic interventionism. Democrats also take a governmental responsibility to provide universal health care and welfare, a tax rate in favor of the sociologically disadvantaged, and a liberal approach to minority rights.

I could really go on and on. You're flat out being ignorant if you continue with this asinine fusion of adequately separate things. Just because you disagree with both parties and have found a few similarities in their actions does not give you the license to render them indistinguishable.....

Ike:

Is it not so implausible for you to realize that, while the rhetoric will seem as different as day and night, at the end of the day, no true change ever occurs based on one party or ideology alone. The only changes that occur are those that the politicians believe will get them reelected once again.

Democrats CLAIM that they want governmental responsibility--and while Obama did get UHC through, don't you find it interesting that as soon as people began pitching fits, he quickly stopped really trying to do anything that might upset someone? You want to know why? To get reelected.

Why do you think that many Republicans, though they claim they're a true conservative, act in ways very similar to Democrats? Look at Romney's instilling of UHC. Didn't Obama, a Democrat, do the same?

While there are outliers here and there, the conclusion is that reelection is the name of the game, whether Dem or Rep, and thus we see policies that are almost identical, regardless of rhetoric.
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3/17/2012 9:37:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/17/2012 9:14:37 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/17/2012 8:59:51 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/17/2012 7:59:15 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

lol I can't say I'm shocked by this ridiculous answer. It's one thing to disapprove of the actions of both parties,...it's another thing to fallaciously conflate them in the process.

How are they different?

They stand for different things and different policies. While there are certain norms that remain constant within a given period of time between the 2 parties, they aren't indistinguishable. It seriously gets on my nerves how you and especially detectableninja conflate and generalize as if you're politically color blind. Conservatives and Liberals are in similar spheres ideologically, as they both raise taxes and heavily control the economy. However, there have been some conservative presidents, namely from the 20s, that refrained from economic interventionism. Democrats also take a governmental responsibility to provide universal health care and welfare, a tax rate in favor of the sociologically disadvantaged, and a liberal approach to minority rights.

I could really go on and on. You're flat out being ignorant if you continue with this asinine fusion of adequately separate things. Just because you disagree with both parties and have found a few similarities in their actions does not give you the license to render them indistinguishable.....

A few?

NDAA
TARP
Patriot Act
Iraq War (initially)
War on Drugs
Social Security
Federal Reserve
Public schools
Income tax
Medicaid
Medicare

Both parties agree on most things. It's the outliers that get the most attention though. Hand me an average Democrat or Republican and I'll bet they support all of the above. Forgive us if the Republocrats don't seem too ideologically different. but I suppose we're just being contrarian.
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3/17/2012 9:55:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/17/2012 9:14:37 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/17/2012 8:59:51 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/17/2012 7:59:15 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

lol I can't say I'm shocked by this ridiculous answer. It's one thing to disapprove of the actions of both parties,...it's another thing to fallaciously conflate them in the process.

How are they different?

They stand for different things and different policies. While there are certain norms that remain constant within a given period of time between the 2 parties, they aren't indistinguishable. It seriously gets on my nerves how you and especially detectableninja conflate and generalize as if you're politically color blind. Conservatives and Liberals are in similar spheres ideologically, as they both raise taxes and heavily control the economy. However, there have been some conservative presidents, namely from the 20s, that refrained from economic interventionism. Democrats also take a governmental responsibility to provide universal health care and welfare, a tax rate in favor of the sociologically disadvantaged, and a liberal approach to minority rights.

I am a Progressive, not a Liberal, so I disagree somewhat. However, I am in fully agreement with the previous debater. Democrats, for the most part, has drifted too far to the right (for example: name a Democrat besides me who supports Single-Payer healthcare. A brilliant HC plan, but Dems still ignore it for the most part). However, I am more moderate on some other issues, but it depends on the issue itself.
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"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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3/17/2012 10:37:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/17/2012 9:37:55 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 3/17/2012 9:14:37 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/17/2012 8:59:51 PM, Ren wrote:
At 3/17/2012 7:59:15 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/15/2012 5:02:40 PM, Ren wrote:
Nothing.

lol I can't say I'm shocked by this ridiculous answer. It's one thing to disapprove of the actions of both parties,...it's another thing to fallaciously conflate them in the process.

How are they different?

They stand for different things and different policies. While there are certain norms that remain constant within a given period of time between the 2 parties, they aren't indistinguishable. It seriously gets on my nerves how you and especially detectableninja conflate and generalize as if you're politically color blind. Conservatives and Liberals are in similar spheres ideologically, as they both raise taxes and heavily control the economy. However, there have been some conservative presidents, namely from the 20s, that refrained from economic interventionism. Democrats also take a governmental responsibility to provide universal health care and welfare, a tax rate in favor of the sociologically disadvantaged, and a liberal approach to minority rights.

I could really go on and on. You're flat out being ignorant if you continue with this asinine fusion of adequately separate things. Just because you disagree with both parties and have found a few similarities in their actions does not give you the license to render them indistinguishable.....

A few?

NDDA - ?
TARP - No
Patriot Act - UND
Iraq War (initially) - initially, yes
War on Drugs - for
Social Security - privatize
Federal Reserve - audit them
Public schools - against
Income tax - flat tax
Medicaid - against
Medicare - against

Both parties agree on most things. It's the outliers that get the most attention though. Hand me an average Democrat or Republican and I'll bet they support all of the above. Forgive us if the Republocrats don't seem too ideologically different. but I suppose we're just being contrarian.

lol I am a average republican and but against on some of those, am I an average one then?!
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3/17/2012 10:49:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/15/2012 5:02:18 PM, inferno wrote:
Is what ?

For me, I find no difference.

Do you really know what is the hard core, fundamental difference between the Democratic Party, and the Republican Party. What is it about them that has made you as an individual embrace one party over the over.

They have shunned me to support "No" party.

I wonder if you can tell us the real reason why.

I find that they are both fundamentalist parties. They both produce dangerous ideologues- that is why I do not see a difference for what I consider mattering.