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3/26/2012 7:59:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Funny how this works out (From Right of a Cliff):

Imagine if a Republican President pulled us out of a recession with 2 straight years of private sector job growth, saved the American auto industry, killed Osama Bin Ladin, aided in helping kill Gaddafi without a single American causality, ended the war in Iraq, presided over the highest domestic natural gas production on record and championed the lowest taxes in history...he'd be a Republican legend. Instead it was a mixed-race Democrat...so that means he's a socialist, anti-American foreign born Muslim who hates Christians and wants to destroy capitalism. Funny how that works.

But then again a Republican couldn't have done any of that in the first place.
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3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.
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3/26/2012 8:08:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.

how many people do you think will read this erroneous speech?
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3/26/2012 8:09:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:08:35 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.

how many people do you think will read this erroneous speech?

Everything I said is 100% true.
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3/26/2012 8:09:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Image if politics never made anything any better but only took away from some areas and gave to others.
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3/26/2012 8:09:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.

That wasn't half bad, I'd add legalizing indefinite detention of American citizens without due process.
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3/26/2012 8:10:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:09:20 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.

That wasn't half bad, I'd add legalizing indefinite detention of American citizens without due process.

Thank you. Yes, I wish I had added that one as well as something about the industrial favoritism and crony capitalism that has been practiced.
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3/26/2012 8:14:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.

I like mine better
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"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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3/26/2012 8:17:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:14:03 PM, Contra wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.

I like mine better

Eh the Libya thing is a stretch, we were better off not intervening.
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3/26/2012 8:18:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:17:19 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:14:03 PM, Contra wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.

I like mine better

Eh the Libya thing is a stretch, we were better off not intervening.

But hey, as my profile picture indicates, we are at war with Gaddafi, we've always been at war with Gaddafi...
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3/26/2012 8:22:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:08:35 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.

how many people do you think will read this accurate speech?

I read and liked it.
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3/26/2012 8:24:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:22:14 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:08:35 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.

how many people do you think will read this accurate speech?

I read and liked it.

of course you did
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3/26/2012 8:25:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:24:13 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:22:14 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:08:35 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.

how many people do you think will read this accurate speech?

I read and liked it.

of course you did

Ike did you like mine?
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"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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3/26/2012 8:29:06 PM
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At 3/26/2012 8:25:31 PM, Contra wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:24:13 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:22:14 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:08:35 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:06:05 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Imagine if a Republican president saw a net loss of jobs in his first term. The only president, by the way, to leave office with less jobs than he entered with was Herbert Hoover. Imagine if this Republican president also added more debt than all previous presidents combined. Imagine this president oversaw record gas prices as well. Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens but blames the Democratic party, which hasn't had the presidency since 2008 and didn't have congress from 2006 to 2010, for all of the bad things that happen and the awful shape the nation is in under this president.

Most people would say that this is a horrible president who needs to take responsibility. But, it turns out that a mixed race Democrat did all of this. And, instead, we are supposed to give him full credit for evey slightly positive thing that happens and blame Republicans that were in charge at some point in the past for the awful state of the nation.

how many people do you think will read this accurate speech?

I read and liked it.

of course you did

Ike did you like mine?

It was more honest than the abomination jimtimmy produced
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3/26/2012 8:31:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:29:06 PM, 000ike wrote:

It was more honest than the abomination jimtimmy produced

More honest? I thought they were both factually accurate
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3/26/2012 8:36:29 PM
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At 3/26/2012 8:31:48 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:29:06 PM, 000ike wrote:

It was more honest than the abomination jimtimmy produced

More honest? I thought they were both factually accurate

"Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens"

The dishonest part here is that he forgot the other half of the story, where the president is blamed for every little bad thing that happen. As a matter of fact, Limbaugh and the Faux News pundits are blaming the president for the Gas prices, while it's generally acknowledged that the president doesn't have much to do with it.

Maybe some of what jimtimmy said was correct, but the whole thing was full of wholes and omitted details that painted a story quite different from reality. He knows this and so does Darkkermit, but they are more content to paint an inaccurate picture that favors their opinions, than an objective overview of the situation.
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3/26/2012 8:42:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:36:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:31:48 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:29:06 PM, 000ike wrote:

It was more honest than the abomination jimtimmy produced

More honest? I thought they were both factually accurate

"Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens"

The dishonest part here is that he forgot the other half of the story, where the president is blamed for every little bad thing that happen. As a matter of fact, Limbaugh and the Faux News pundits are blaming the president for the Gas prices, while it's generally acknowledged that the president doesn't have much to do with it.

Maybe some of what jimtimmy said was correct, but the whole thing was full of wholes and omitted details that painted a story quite different from reality. He knows this and so does Darkkermit, but they are more content to paint an inaccurate picture that favors their opinions, than an objective overview of the situation.

Ahh I think I understand, using facts to paint a story where Obama is the victim of irrational party politics is ok, but if you use the facts to paint a different story then its dishonest? Did I sum that up right?
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3/26/2012 8:43:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:36:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:31:48 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:29:06 PM, 000ike wrote:

It was more honest than the abomination jimtimmy produced

More honest? I thought they were both factually accurate

"Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens"

The dishonest part here is that he forgot the other half of the story, where the president is blamed for every little bad thing that happen. As a matter of fact, Limbaugh and the Faux News pundits are blaming the president for the Gas prices, while it's generally acknowledged that the president doesn't have much to do with it.

Maybe some of what jimtimmy said was correct, but the whole thing was full of wholes and omitted details that painted a story quite different from reality. He knows this and so does Darkkermit, but they are more content to paint an inaccurate picture that favors their opinions, than an objective overview of the situation.

Right, because Democrats never blamed Bush for high gas prices. And, they never blamed him for the bad economy.
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3/26/2012 8:44:22 PM
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At 3/26/2012 8:42:47 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:36:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:31:48 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:29:06 PM, 000ike wrote:

It was more honest than the abomination jimtimmy produced

More honest? I thought they were both factually accurate

"Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens"

The dishonest part here is that he forgot the other half of the story, where the president is blamed for every little bad thing that happen. As a matter of fact, Limbaugh and the Faux News pundits are blaming the president for the Gas prices, while it's generally acknowledged that the president doesn't have much to do with it.

Maybe some of what jimtimmy said was correct, but the whole thing was full of wholes and omitted details that painted a story quite different from reality. He knows this and so does Darkkermit, but they are more content to paint an inaccurate picture that favors their opinions, than an objective overview of the situation.

Ahh I think I understand, using facts to paint a story where Obama is the victim of irrational party politics is ok, but if you use the facts to paint a different story then its dishonest? Did I sum that up right?

I think you nailed it.
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3/26/2012 8:48:41 PM
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By the way, I understand that the one I wrote presents one side of the story. Everything I said was correct, but it certainly left out some important qualifiers.

But, the same exact thing is true of the OP. My main point is that accusing one side of hypocrisy is kind of pointless, because both sides are guilty of it.

Look at gas prices. When gas prices were high under Bush, liberals blamed Bush and conservatives pointed out, correctly, that the president has very little power over gas prices. Now that gas prices are high under Obama, conservatives blame Obama and liberals point out, correctly, that the president has very little power over gas prices.

The fact is that both sides try to paint a picture that makes the other side look worse and will take any oppurtunity to shift blame from themselves to the other side. That is just the way it is. There is really no point in bitching about the other side doing it.
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3/26/2012 8:51:48 PM
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At 3/26/2012 8:48:41 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
By the way, I understand that the one I wrote presents one side of the story. Everything I said was correct, but it certainly left out some important qualifiers.

But, the same exact thing is true of the OP. My main point is that accusing one side of hypocrisy is kind of pointless, because both sides are guilty of it.

Look at gas prices. When gas prices were high under Bush, liberals blamed Bush and conservatives pointed out, correctly, that the president has very little power over gas prices. Now that gas prices are high under Obama, conservatives blame Obama and liberals point out, correctly, that the president has very little power over gas prices.

The fact is that both sides try to paint a picture that makes the other side look worse and will take any oppurtunity to shift blame from themselves to the other side. That is just the way it is. There is really no point in bitching about the other side doing it.

Yep that about sums it up.
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3/26/2012 8:53:21 PM
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The neocons and Bush DID have an affect on gas prices though -- they started the overseas wars, which heavily increased the demand of oil for the military, raising prices. Obama is winding those wars down, and oil production is at an 8 year high domestically.
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3/26/2012 8:53:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:43:49 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:36:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:31:48 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:29:06 PM, 000ike wrote:

It was more honest than the abomination jimtimmy produced

More honest? I thought they were both factually accurate

"Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens"

The dishonest part here is that he forgot the other half of the story, where the president is blamed for every little bad thing that happen. As a matter of fact, Limbaugh and the Faux News pundits are blaming the president for the Gas prices, while it's generally acknowledged that the president doesn't have much to do with it.

Maybe some of what jimtimmy said was correct, but the whole thing was full of wholes and omitted details that painted a story quite different from reality. He knows this and so does Darkkermit, but they are more content to paint an inaccurate picture that favors their opinions, than an objective overview of the situation.


Right, because Democrats never blamed Bush for high gas prices. And, they never blamed him for the bad economy.

Nor the debt. Democrats didn't blame Bush for the debt either.
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3/26/2012 8:54:43 PM
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At 3/26/2012 8:53:53 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:43:49 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:36:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:31:48 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:29:06 PM, 000ike wrote:

It was more honest than the abomination jimtimmy produced

More honest? I thought they were both factually accurate

"Now, imagine that this president takes full credit for every little good thing that happens"

The dishonest part here is that he forgot the other half of the story, where the president is blamed for every little bad thing that happen. As a matter of fact, Limbaugh and the Faux News pundits are blaming the president for the Gas prices, while it's generally acknowledged that the president doesn't have much to do with it.

Maybe some of what jimtimmy said was correct, but the whole thing was full of wholes and omitted details that painted a story quite different from reality. He knows this and so does Darkkermit, but they are more content to paint an inaccurate picture that favors their opinions, than an objective overview of the situation.


Right, because Democrats never blamed Bush for high gas prices. And, they never blamed him for the bad economy.

Nor the debt. Democrats didn't blame Bush for the debt either.

Never.
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3/26/2012 8:57:10 PM
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At 3/26/2012 8:53:21 PM, Contra wrote:
The neocons and Bush DID have an affect on gas prices though -- they started the overseas wars, which heavily increased the demand of oil for the military, raising prices. Obama is winding those wars down, and oil production is at an 8 year high domestically.

So, the military needing more oil was the main reason gas prices went up under Bush?

Any evidence?
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3/26/2012 8:58:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
No. No. No. You have it all wrong. It was Bush's policy who did all that.

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3/26/2012 9:04:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:53:21 PM, Contra wrote:
The neocons and Bush DID have an affect on gas prices though -- they started the overseas wars, which heavily increased the demand of oil for the military, raising prices. Obama is winding those wars down, and oil production is at an 8 year high domestically.

I'd be fascinating If you showed me the study that demonstrated that the Iraq war significantly increased demand for oil.

If you're analysis is correct, then the price of oil should be decreasing with his "winding those wars down", but they have been increasing.
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3/26/2012 9:05:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:58:02 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
No. No. No. You have it all wrong. It was Bush's policy who did all that.

Obama is a Kenyan, uneducated, radical muslim, terrorist, godless, un-american, anti-freedom, socialist, communist, half-negro, fascist, marxist, ...did I mention radical muslim, jew-hating, christian-murdering, america-hating, hitler-loving, neo-nazi, self-reightous...radical muslim.

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3/26/2012 9:06:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 8:57:10 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:53:21 PM, Contra wrote:
The neocons and Bush DID have an affect on gas prices though -- they started the overseas wars, which heavily increased the demand of oil for the military, raising prices. Obama is winding those wars down, and oil production is at an 8 year high domestically.

So, the military needing more oil was the main reason gas prices went up under Bush?

Any evidence?

High gas prices have NOTHING to do with Obama or his policies. Gas prices are a global phenomena and are high EVERYWHERE. The US has some of the lowest prices.

http://www.nytimes.com...
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3/26/2012 9:06:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/26/2012 9:05:06 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 3/26/2012 8:58:02 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
No. No. No. You have it all wrong. It was Bush's policy who did all that.

Obama is a Kenyan, uneducated, radical muslim, terrorist, godless, un-american, anti-freedom, socialist, communist, half-negro, fascist, marxist, ...did I mention radical muslim, jew-hating, christian-murdering, america-hating, hitler-loving, neo-nazi, self-reightous...radical muslim.

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Wow. What took you so long?! The republicans were sold at "Kenyan."
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