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4/2/2012 4:57:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I figured we could all take a break from shitting on each others ideas and beliefs about politics to do something fun. Heres how it works,

You now have the means to make your own society, so what exactly would you model you society after?
- Would you include the Constitution and the Bill of Rights the way they are or would you amend a few things?
- Would you also make three branches of government? would they have the same powers as they do today or would you alter them? which ones?
- Would separation of Church and State be in your society?
- How would youre country make money, which tax system would you use or what would you place taxes on?
- Would all drugs be illegal, legal, government regulated, or somewhere in between?
- What would you name this country?
- Would you prefer it be small or large?
- Free Healthcare or not?
- Where would most of your budget go? Defense, Healthcare, Education, Infrastructure, Business subsidies, or something else?
- What do you think would separate your society from others, in other words what would make your's truly unique?
- Gun regulation or no?
- Abortion or not? What about Late Term abortion?
- Would you try to join international trade organizations or not?
- How interventionist would you be?

Feel free to add other questions to define youre country

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DO - NOT - SH*T - ON - OTHER - PEOPLES - IDEAS..... THIS - IS - ALL - JUST - FOR - FUN
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4/2/2012 5:07:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/2/2012 4:57:06 PM, imabench wrote:
I figured we could all take a break from shitting on each others ideas and beliefs about politics to do something fun. Heres how it works,

You now have the means to make your own society, so what exactly would you model you society after?
- Would you include the Constitution and the Bill of Rights the way they are or would you amend a few things?
A Bill of Rights stating the rights of each individual as set out by the ECHR with a few reforms on lexical ambiguity.
- Would you also make three branches of government? would they have the same powers as they do today or would you alter them? which ones?
The executive and the judiciary would be kept separate. They both have to come together to agree on the legislation.
- Would separation of Church and State be in your society?
Yes
- How would youre country make money, which tax system would you use or what would you place taxes on?
Proportional taxation, taxation on all goods @ 5%, no corporate tax
- Would all drugs be illegal, legal, government regulated, or somewhere in between?
All drugs in the UK remains legal, legalisation of Marijuana, strong government regulation of Class B drugs, criminalisation of selling of class A drugs.
- What would you name this country?
MORDOR
- Would you prefer it be small or large?
Smallish.
- Free Healthcare or not?
Yes.
- Where would most of your budget go? Defense, Healthcare, Education, Infrastructure, Business subsidies, or something else?
20% Health, 25% Education, 15% Business Subsidies & infrastructure, 5% Defence, 15% Welfare, 20% other, admin, etc.
- What do you think would separate your society from others, in other words what would make your's truly unique?
- Gun regulation or no?
Legalisation of semiautomatic (and bolt action) rifles, legalisation of handguns/revolvers, required proof of ownership to specific guns, banning of guns in public spaces.
- Abortion or not? What about Late Term abortion?
Legalisation of abortion & referndum on Late Term abortion.
- Would you try to join international trade organizations or not?
Yes.
- How interventionist would you be?
Anti-monopoly, enforce some degree of CSR and enforcement of all IPRs.
Feel free to add other questions to define youre country

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4/2/2012 5:16:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
There's no gov'ment 'cause everybody is nice from smoking herb all day and we no need to worry about fossil fuels 'cause we all ride around on unicorns.
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4/2/2012 5:22:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
You now have the means to make your own society, so what exactly would you model you society after?

America.

- Would you include the Constitution and the Bill of Rights the way they are or would you amend a few things?

First of all, this assumes a government is running the society. It's fairly logical to do this, because most societies are run by governments. But there are those pesky little theoretical anarchist societies...

But, I woud have a constitution and a bill or rights, but I would amend a few things. Judiciary is elected; lawmakers must have classes in debate (just an idea); copyright can only be changed by amending the constitution, and it cannot exceed the author's lifetime.

- Would you also make three branches of government? would they have the same powers as they do today or would you alter them? which ones?

Yes and yes for the most part.

- Would separation of Church and State be in your society?

Fairly strict. My government is going to be strictly secular. But that doesn't mean that it's going to be run by atheists (grr to those who think that); it means that my government is going to be uninterested in religion, for the most part.

- How would youre country make money, which tax system would you use or what would you place taxes on?

Progressive tax system, along with a tax on how much one can consume. In addition, if one wants to have the government to pay for their college or medicare, they are going to have to pay extra taxes.

- Would all drugs be illegal, legal, government regulated, or somewhere in between?

Most drugs are going to be legal. However, there is going to be government regulation. Things like meth are not going to be legal (obviously), but there is going to be leaner drug laws. Marijuana is going to be legal, and possibly magic mushrooms as well.

- What would you name this country?

Aekkeland. Because it's cool. (BTW, it's pronounced EEK-euh-land)

- Would you prefer it be small or large?

Small

- Free Healthcare or not?

No free healthcare, yes public option.

- Where would most of your budget go? Defense, Healthcare, Education, Infrastructure, Business subsidies, or something else?

Education, Infrastructure, and Science(!)

- What do you think would separate your society from others, in other words what would make your's truly unique?

No lobbying, promotion of public transport, the attempt to get government bureauocracy down to a minimum.

- Gun regulation or no?

People are allowed to have guns, but there may be regulations on the assault rifles and such.

- Abortion or not? What about Late Term abortion?

No late term abortion, but early term is okay. If the fetus is viable, then no abortion for you.

- Would you try to join international trade organizations or not?

Yes.

- How interventionist would you be?

I'm going to be non-interventionalist as sane. I'm not going to ignore a war just north of my border, but we are not going to intervene if the fight is halfway around the world.
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4/2/2012 5:57:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/2/2012 4:57:06 PM, imabench wrote:
I figured we could all take a break from shitting on each others ideas and beliefs about politics to do something fun. Heres how it works,

You now have the means to make your own society, so what exactly would you model you society after?
- Would you include the Constitution and the Bill of Rights the way they are or would you amend a few things?
I would have a Confederation of Republics
- Would you also make three branches of government? would they have the same powers as they do today or would you alter them? which ones?
3 separate branches of government
- Would separation of Church and State be in your society?
Yes, but not in the Left wing sense; I would have it as intended.
The state cannot pass laws or executive orders which prohibit the practice of any religion, nor mandate the practice of any religion.
- How would youre country make money, which tax system would you use or what would you place taxes on?
No income taxes. All taxes are to be indirect, uniform and flat.
- Would all drugs be illegal, legal, government regulated, or somewhere in between?
No prohibitions of any kind. The government may only regulate imports, and exports, or regulatory laws to protect the consumer, without prohibiting sales. For example nutrition facts. or ingredient labels, or health codes.
- What would you name this country?
The United Republics of America
- Would you prefer it be small or large?
Large, rural, and locally governed.
- Free Healthcare or not?
No such thing. No socialism.
- Where would most of your budget go? Defense, Healthcare, Education, Infrastructure, Business subsidies, or something else?
Defense. The role of the state would be limited to the protection of life, liberty, and property.
- What do you think would separate your society from others, in other words what would make your's truly unique?
More Liberty, and more prosperity.
- Gun regulation or no?
No.
- Abortion or not?
No laws either way.


What about Late Term abortion?

To protect the life of the infant, abortions would be illegal after the 1st trimester has ended.

- Would you try to join international trade organizations or not?
No
- How interventionist would you be?

The only role of the state would be to protect the life, liberty, and property of the people.
Feel free to add other questions to define youre country

I only ask one thing,

DO - NOT - SH*T - ON - OTHER - PEOPLES - IDEAS..... THIS - IS - ALL - JUST - FOR - FUN
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4/3/2012 12:16:36 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/2/2012 4:57:06 PM, imabench wrote:
I figured we could all take a break from shitting on each others ideas and beliefs about politics to do something fun. Heres how it works,

You now have the means to make your own society, so what exactly would you model you society after?
- Would you include the Constitution and the Bill of Rights the way they are or would you amend a few things?

A Constitutional Federal Republic, with a similar Bill of Rights, but also has an amendment to the Constitution that protects a person's right to health care and another amendment on Campaign Finance limits

- Would you also make three branches of government? would they have the same powers as they do today or would you alter them? which ones?

3 separate branches of government

- Would separation of Church and State be in your society?
Yes
- How would youre country make money, which tax system would you use or what would you place taxes on?

A Progressive income tax, and several excise taxes. A low federal sales tax. No corporate tax. A tax on stock, dividend, and capital gains (exchanges).

- Would all drugs be illegal, legal, government regulated, or somewhere in between?

Drugs would be decriminalized, but have a government tax on it. Mandatory drug rehabilitation if somebody is addicted to them - much cheaper than prison.

Free trade. Commerce can be regulated to a degree to protect the citizens. A Capitalist Market Economy with a government presence.

- What would you name this country?

The United Republic (TUR)

- Would you prefer it be small or large?

Probably small - an island like U.K. or Taiwan.

- Free Healthcare or not?

Well, not "free", but a well designed Single-Payer system of health care, like Taiwan.

- Where would most of your budget go? Defense, Healthcare, Education, Infrastructure, Business subsidies, or something else?

Education would be a locally funded issue, with free community colleges. All subsidies, besides green subsidies, would be nonexistent. Single-Payer health care, modern infrastructure, and a modern defense force.

- What do you think would separate your society from others, in other words what would make your's truly unique?

Freedom and prosperity, with smart government that works with the private sector to create the best outcome of any system. A government that also is isolated from the effects of special interests, and works to promote the true common good and prosperity.

- Gun regulation or no?
Some gun regulation, but you can own a gun of course (but no fully automatic guns though).
- Abortion or not? What about Late Term abortion?
Abortion yes. Late term - I am iffy.
- Would you try to join international trade organizations or not?
Sovereignty. So no, but my nation would be engaged in free trade policies that protect the environment.
- How interventionist would you be?
We would leave most other nations alone, and have a foreign policy based on human values and rights.

Feel free to add other questions to define youre country

I only ask one thing,

DO - NOT - SH*T - ON - OTHER - PEOPLES - IDEAS..... THIS - IS - ALL - JUST - FOR - FUN
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4/3/2012 12:31:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/2/2012 4:57:06 PM, imabench wrote:
I figured we could all take a break from shitting on each others ideas and beliefs about politics to do something fun. Heres how it works,

I know nothing about economics or politics, but seeing as I'm not tired in the slightest and I have nothing better to do, I will give this a go :P

You now have the means to make your own society, so what exactly would you model you society after?
- Would you include the Constitution and the Bill of Rights the way they are or would you amend a few things?
Mostly unchanged.
- Would you also make three branches of government? would they have the same powers as they do today or would you alter them? which ones?
I think it would be possible to collapse the Judicial branch into the Executive branch, so I would only have two seperate branches instead of three.
- Would separation of Church and State be in your society?
To those who want it. Obviously, religious private schools can be founded and ran, although I guess that would be seperate from state anyway, due to the fact it was a private school.
- How would youre country make money, which tax system would you use or what would you place taxes on?
A progressive income tax sounds like a good idea, at least in theory. Start out small for thsoe with little to no income, and continually ramp up as the pay scale increases. Other small taxes could be on items bought in bulk that aren't really beneficial to society, such as cigarettes, tobacco, alcohol, maybe even soda.
- Would all drugs be illegal, legal, government regulated, or somewhere in between?
Somewhere in between. Harder drugs (heroin, cocaine, etc.) would be illegal, lighter drugs (marijuana) would be regulated, but not legal for just anyone to put in a pipe and smoke. Prescription meds would stay the same.
- What would you name this country?
The Country Ran by Demonized Nambian Antelopes
TCRBDNA for short. :P
- Would you prefer it be small or large?
In the middle somewhere. Kind of like the Brits.
- Free Healthcare or not?
Hmmm....I'd say yes.
- Where would most of your budget go? Defense, Healthcare, Education, Infrastructure, Business subsidies, or something else?
Defense, infrastructure, and education.
- What do you think would separate your society from others, in other words what would make your's truly unique?
We're run by Demonized Nambian Antelopes. Wtf else do you need?
- Gun regulation or no?
On certain catagories of firearms. Automatics would be regulated, as well as higher caliber rifles. Handguns and semi-automatic rifles would be free to buy, as well as shotguns. People would be free to modify weapons, provided they had the training to do so safely and the liscense to do so.
- Abortion or not? What about Late Term abortion?
As a choice, but it would be discouraged.
- Would you try to join international trade organizations or not?
NATO, maybe.
- How interventionist would you be?
Barely. If it doesn't involve us in some direct way, don't bother.

Feel free to add other questions to define youre country

I only ask one thing,

DO - NOT - SH*T - ON - OTHER - PEOPLES - IDEAS..... THIS - IS - ALL - JUST - FOR - FUN
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