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Jon Huntsman Compares GOP to Communist Party

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4/25/2012 10:14:32 PM
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The one sane GOP candidate that was actually running and had a real possibility of actually winning the general election compared the GOP to the Communist Party, unlike a GOP congressman who compared Progressives in Congress (cough) to the Communist Party.

Huntsman had an opportunity to win over some Democrats if he was given the chance, said Michael Moore on CNN.
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4/25/2012 10:15:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
That makes no sense.
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4/25/2012 10:15:42 PM
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They're both wrong, the reds are actually hiding out in the tea party. Death to the tea party!
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4/25/2012 10:19:00 PM
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At 4/25/2012 10:15:42 PM, thett3 wrote:
They're both wrong, the reds are actually hiding out in the tea party. Death to the tea party!

+10000000
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

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4/25/2012 10:22:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
You're all wrong! Your mother is a red! Your brother is a red! Tell the state who the reds are! We'll have Big Brother arrest and kill the reds! Those reds are restricting liberty and creating a big government!
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4/25/2012 10:23:53 PM
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Talk to Rahm Emanuel Huntsman, I think you're confusing communism for... partisan politics.
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4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.
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4/26/2012 1:45:38 AM
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At 4/25/2012 10:19:00 PM, Contra wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:15:42 PM, thett3 wrote:
They're both wrong, the reds are actually hiding out in the tea party. Death to the tea party!

+10000000

^Above doesn't realize that thett3 was joking.
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4/26/2012 7:31:33 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 1:45:38 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:19:00 PM, Contra wrote:
At 4/25/2012 10:15:42 PM, thett3 wrote:
They're both wrong, the reds are actually hiding out in the tea party. Death to the tea party!

+10000000

^Above doesn't realize that thett3 was joking.

I know that he was ^
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"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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4/26/2012 12:04:03 PM
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Communism has lost all meaning. Nobody seems to know what it means anymore. Hell even advocates for communism seem to lack basic understanding for what it really is.

Communism is the communal/public/state ownership of all capital. What is capital? your house is capital, your land is capital, your car is capital, your couch is capital, your computer is capital, your blender is capital, your dog is capital, your money is capital, and people are capital.
Anything that can can be used to make money is capital, anything that can be used to create a product is capital, anything that can be sold is capital, and anything that can be used to provide a service is capital.

By making all capital public, one makes all land public, one makes all buildings public, one makes all industries public, one makes all people/workers public, and one makes everything one owns public.

In communism you own nothing, you don't even own yourself. Women are communal, because communists see sex as a service that should benefit the community. Children are raised communally, because the concept of "my child" denotes individual ownership. In communism there is no individual, there is only the united, the community, society, the collective is all that exists in communism.
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4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?
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4/26/2012 12:53:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?

His take on foreign policy especially as it relates to China. Believing in global warming. Pro-DREAM and increased H-1B visas. Pro-civil union. Lowering corporate taxes without eliminating them. He even took out some of Utah's weird liquor laws even though he doesn't drink.

Doesn't mean I love all his stances. Also, at the end of the day, I probably would still have chose Obama over Huntsman.

However, no other GOP candidate has even made me consider crossing party lines.
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4/26/2012 1:32:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 12:53:07 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?

His take on foreign policy especially as it relates to China. Believing in global warming. Pro-DREAM and increased H-1B visas. Pro-civil union. Lowering corporate taxes without eliminating them. He even took out some of Utah's weird liquor laws even though he doesn't drink.

Doesn't mean I love all his stances. Also, at the end of the day, I probably would still have chose Obama over Huntsman.

However, no other GOP candidate has even made me consider crossing party lines.

So you liked him for very, very minor details within his positions?
Also, did he have a specific foreign policy for China or was he simply the ambassador which automatically translates to a "good" foreign policy?
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4/26/2012 1:46:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 1:32:32 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:53:07 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?

His take on foreign policy especially as it relates to China. Believing in global warming. Pro-DREAM and increased H-1B visas. Pro-civil union. Lowering corporate taxes without eliminating them. He even took out some of Utah's weird liquor laws even though he doesn't drink.

Doesn't mean I love all his stances. Also, at the end of the day, I probably would still have chose Obama over Huntsman.

However, no other GOP candidate has even made me consider crossing party lines.

So you liked him for very, very minor details within his positions?
Also, did he have a specific foreign policy for China or was he simply the ambassador which automatically translates to a "good" foreign policy?

He was the only GOP nominee that wasn't calling for an immediate economic cold war on China. Even Mitt seems fascinated with the idea of antagonizing the Chinese over their currency in the most public, least face-saving manner available.
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4/26/2012 2:01:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 1:46:23 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:32:32 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:53:07 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?

His take on foreign policy especially as it relates to China. Believing in global warming. Pro-DREAM and increased H-1B visas. Pro-civil union. Lowering corporate taxes without eliminating them. He even took out some of Utah's weird liquor laws even though he doesn't drink.

Doesn't mean I love all his stances. Also, at the end of the day, I probably would still have chose Obama over Huntsman.

However, no other GOP candidate has even made me consider crossing party lines.

So you liked him for very, very minor details within his positions?
Also, did he have a specific foreign policy for China or was he simply the ambassador which automatically translates to a "good" foreign policy?

He was the only GOP nominee that wasn't calling for an immediate economic cold war on China. Even Mitt seems fascinated with the idea of antagonizing the Chinese over their currency in the most public, least face-saving manner available.

Isn't China devaluing their currency actually a real problem for the US?
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4/26/2012 2:41:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 1:46:23 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:32:32 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:53:07 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?

His take on foreign policy especially as it relates to China. Believing in global warming. Pro-DREAM and increased H-1B visas. Pro-civil union. Lowering corporate taxes without eliminating them. He even took out some of Utah's weird liquor laws even though he doesn't drink.

Doesn't mean I love all his stances. Also, at the end of the day, I probably would still have chose Obama over Huntsman.

However, no other GOP candidate has even made me consider crossing party lines.

So you liked him for very, very minor details within his positions?
Also, did he have a specific foreign policy for China or was he simply the ambassador which automatically translates to a "good" foreign policy?

He was the only GOP nominee that wasn't calling for an immediate economic cold war on China. Even Mitt seems fascinated with the idea of antagonizing the Chinese over their currency in the most public, least face-saving manner available.

Ron Paul wasn't calling for economic war.
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4/26/2012 3:04:38 PM
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The GOP is made of statists just as much as the Democrats, so if you extrapolate from there that full state control, if it were achieved in this country, would only be abetted by these parties, then he is semi-correct. But, both parties suck.
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4/26/2012 5:01:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 12:53:07 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?

His take on foreign policy especially as it relates to China. Believing in global warming. Pro-DREAM and increased H-1B visas. Pro-civil union. Lowering corporate taxes without eliminating them. He even took out some of Utah's weird liquor laws even though he doesn't drink.

Doesn't mean I love all his stances. Also, at the end of the day, I probably would still have chose Obama over Huntsman.

However, no other GOP candidate has even made me consider crossing party lines.

I agree. Hunstman also has executive experience (doesn't matter much though) as well as political experience as governor (which was 1st in job creation) and he also has vast foreign policy experience with China. But the issues above made him more appealing, including his trade policy ideas, and his opposition to partisanship. I would still likely choose Obama though, but Obama would have to become somewhat more liberal for me to be more enthused.
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"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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4/26/2012 5:29:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?

He was also to the left of crazy.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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4/26/2012 6:26:57 PM
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At 4/26/2012 5:29:35 PM, Contra wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?

He was also to the left of crazy.

Please, by all means enlighten me.
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4/26/2012 6:44:22 PM
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At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

Exact reason why he was not on the Republican ticket, and had no chance from the start.

If a Democrat likes him almost as much as Obama, thats very telling.
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4/26/2012 7:32:38 PM
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At 4/26/2012 6:26:57 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 5:29:35 PM, Contra wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?

He was also to the left of crazy.

Please, by all means enlighten me.

Conservatives claim to be Pro-Life, yet oppose prenatal care for low-income mothers which lowers the infant mortality rate.

Conservatives want to want to prevent the death of fetuses for mothers who don't want them, and don't want to prevent the death of fetuses when mothers do want them.

Plus, Conservatives support capital punishment, that isn't pro-life.

Conservatives want to eliminate regulatory agencies that protect the public, but want to increase the budgets for the military and prisons because they provide protections.

Conservatives want to seek tort reform, which would go against state's rights to determine tort laws.

Most Republicans believe in Jesus, who was poor and healed the sick for free, but think we should protect the rich and that free health care is wrong.

Republicans support prayer in school, as long as your kids aren't subjected to Muslim prayers.

Conservatives believe that Fox News is the ONLY news station in the world to be right and is actually fair and balanced.

Conservatives think Obama got elected because every black person voted for him not knowing that America is only 10% black and 66% white.

Republicans want to protect our children's future by lowering the debt but want to end their health care and reduce the funding to their schools, ending school sports and ending lunch programs for needy children.

Conservatives claim to be against government control, but conservatives want to tell you what you can and can't put into your own body. Republicans want to control which video games you play, who you sleep with, what movies you watch, censor the radio, force Christianity and all of its values onto everyone, they want to arrest dying people in hospitals for doing medical marijuana.

Conservatives give Bush getting credit for the killing of Bin Ladin and Rick Perry championing his states balanced budget, using stimulus money, then slamming the stimulus bill as unconstitutional...just for quick couple of examples of this same "logic"(there are countless more).

Conservatives act like taxes are "out of control" when US taxation is low compared to other industrialized nations.

Conservatives oppose universal health care, in which everybody who needs care gets it regardless of their income, and their position is impossible to defend logically and morally, but still claim to be for family values.

Conservatives act like government control is bad but wish for more police and jails to be built to put people away in them. Or a larger military and 'reasonable' social programs where people on food stamps can only buy oatmeal and gruel but no steak.........that's not too much government control.

Republicans act like Obama increased the deficit, in reality Obama has cut the deficit by over a hundred billion dollars.

Republicans act like we should maximize freedom, but want to control what we do with our personal lives.

Republicans don't usually don't like to be confronted with real facts.

(I interchanged conservative with Republican).
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"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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4/26/2012 8:09:05 PM
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At 4/26/2012 7:32:38 PM, Contra wrote:
At 4/26/2012 6:26:57 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 5:29:35 PM, Contra wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?

He was also to the left of crazy.

Please, by all means enlighten me.

Republicans act like Obama increased the deficit, in reality Obama has cut the deficit by over a hundred billion dollars.

There's my favorite, I'll bet even Obama would disagree with that one.
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4/26/2012 8:10:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

This.
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4/26/2012 8:15:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 8:09:05 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 7:32:38 PM, Contra wrote:
At 4/26/2012 6:26:57 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 5:29:35 PM, Contra wrote:
At 4/26/2012 12:44:08 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

What positions did Huntsman hold that you liked?

He was also to the left of crazy.

Please, by all means enlighten me.

Republicans act like Obama increased the deficit, in reality Obama has cut the deficit by over a hundred billion dollars.

There's my favorite, I'll bet even Obama would disagree with that one.

The fiscal year that Obama inherited had a $1.3 trillion dollar deficit. The first fiscal year under Obama (Sept. 2008 onwards) had a similar deficit. Now the deficit is $1.1 trillion (still too high though regardless).
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"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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4/27/2012 6:37:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 8:10:20 PM, UnStupendousMan wrote:
At 4/26/2012 1:27:31 AM, Wnope wrote:
If Huntsman were going up again Obama in 2012, I might have considered voting GOP.

As it stands, Huntsman is far too sane to win Republican primaries.

This.

+10
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan