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4/26/2012 9:17:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
This thread is not for debating or arguing.

Don't contest other people's points. (If you want to argue for Obama, go to the Why Are We For Obama thread.)

Just state your case: Why are you for Romney?

Clarity and brevity are good: cogency. Make a sound bite.

Or go longer if you have a lot of information.

I'm not for Romney, myself (I'll be posting in the other thread) but I'll be interested in what people have to say here. I'm tired of thinking Republicans are just evil, so, stay positive and let me know what would be good about a Romney presidency.

And let other Romney fans see how to articulate his appeal.
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4/26/2012 9:20:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Because Obama is the single worst president we've ever had. He's never led anything in his life and he has proven it time and time again. He surrounded himself with some of the most incompetent people in Washington and has poorly represented the United States abroad. The economy has improved negligibly under him. He has done nothing to improve this country and I think that 4 more years with him will be dangerous.

No one can be as bad as Obama.
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4/26/2012 9:24:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 9:20:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Because Bush is the single worst president we've ever had. He's never led anything in his life and he has proven it time and time again. He surrounded himself with some of the most incompetent people in Washington and has poorly represented the United States abroad. The economy has improved negligibly under him. He has done nothing to improve this country and I think that 4 more years with him will be dangerous.

No one can be as bad as Bush

CP i respect you to no end, I just want to point out the humor that by replacing two words this whole thing can fit the bill with Bush. I respect your opinion and Im only trying to troll
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4/26/2012 9:26:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 9:24:56 PM, imabench wrote:
At 4/26/2012 9:20:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Because Bush is the single worst president we've ever had. He's never led anything in his life and he has proven it time and time again. He surrounded himself with some of the most incompetent people in Washington and has poorly represented the United States abroad. The economy has improved negligibly under him. He has done nothing to improve this country and I think that 4 more years with him will be dangerous.

No one can be as bad as Bush

CP i respect you to no end, I just want to point out the humor that by replacing two words this whole thing can fit the bill with Bush. I respect your opinion and Im only trying to troll

Just goes to show how little there is in difference of them, huh?
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4/26/2012 9:29:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 9:26:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/26/2012 9:24:56 PM, imabench wrote:
At 4/26/2012 9:20:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Because Bush is the single worst president we've ever had. He's never led anything in his life and he has proven it time and time again. He surrounded himself with some of the most incompetent people in Washington and has poorly represented the United States abroad. The economy has improved negligibly under him. He has done nothing to improve this country and I think that 4 more years with him will be dangerous.

No one can be as bad as Bush

CP i respect you to no end, I just want to point out the humor that by replacing two words this whole thing can fit the bill with Bush. I respect your opinion and Im only trying to troll

Just goes to show how little there is in difference of them, huh?

It's a sad reflection on America's politics.
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4/26/2012 9:31:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Because Romney is a second Bush, and Bush is my homeboy
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4/26/2012 9:53:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 9:24:56 PM, imabench wrote:
At 4/26/2012 9:20:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Because Bush is the single worst president we've ever had. He's never led anything in his life and he has proven it time and time again. He surrounded himself with some of the most incompetent people in Washington and has poorly represented the United States abroad. The economy has improved negligibly under him. He has done nothing to improve this country and I think that 4 more years with him will be dangerous.

No one can be as bad as Bush

CP i respect you to no end, I just want to point out the humor that by replacing two words this whole thing can fit the bill with Bush. I respect your opinion and Im only trying to troll

Funny, bush has same economic policies as obama
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4/26/2012 10:16:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
My reasons for supporting Mitt Romney are simple. First, he is committed to economic freedom while Obama is committed to attacking economic freedom.

Romney is committed to keeping taxes and regulations reasonable and low while Obama wants to expand these things.

On national defense, Romney wants to strengthen America while Obama wants to weaken.

On personal qualities, Romney is a pragmatic businessman while Obama is a formerly radical community organizer.

Seems quite obvious to me.
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4/26/2012 10:24:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 9:24:56 PM, imabench wrote:
At 4/26/2012 9:20:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Because Bush is the single worst president we've ever had. He's never led anything in his life and he has proven it time and time again. He surrounded himself with some of the most incompetent people in Washington and has poorly represented the United States abroad. The economy has improved negligibly under him. He has done nothing to improve this country and I think that 4 more years with him will be dangerous.

No one can be as bad as Bush

CP i respect you to no end, I just want to point out the humor that by replacing two words this whole thing can fit the bill with Bush. I respect your opinion and Im only trying to troll

CP, this thead is supposed to be for your support for Romney.

SO, I can tell of these two choices:

1) Obama needs to be defeated.
2) Romney needs to win.

You choose #1, but don't sound that excited about it.
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4/27/2012 12:13:31 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 10:24:30 PM, Contra wrote:
At 4/26/2012 9:24:56 PM, imabench wrote:
At 4/26/2012 9:20:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Because Bush is the single worst president we've ever had. He's never led anything in his life and he has proven it time and time again. He surrounded himself with some of the most incompetent people in Washington and has poorly represented the United States abroad. The economy has improved negligibly under him. He has done nothing to improve this country and I think that 4 more years with him will be dangerous.

No one can be as bad as Bush

CP i respect you to no end, I just want to point out the humor that by replacing two words this whole thing can fit the bill with Bush. I respect your opinion and Im only trying to troll

CP, this thead is supposed to be for your support for Romney.

SO, I can tell of these two choices:

1) Obama needs to be defeated.
2) Romney needs to win.

You choose #1, but don't sound that excited about it.

Well yes, right now my utter contempt for Obama is outweighed by my excitement for Romney. However, I've been a Mitt supporter for quite awhile (a few months) so the excitement isn't all that new.

I think that Romney has a serious shot at winning and leading much better than the current president. He'll be a moderate, get the job done kind of president I think.

@imabench

No worries, I'm Con GW Bush too if you check my profile. His policies weren't Republican or Conservative in the slightest (at least not towards the end). I think our government has been rotten for years now. Reagan was the last truly great president we've had lately.
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4/27/2012 12:18:45 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Yes, Ronald Reagan would be the model president.

He was the last president to truly champion the principles of American exceptionalism and economic freedom.

I think Mitt Romney would be superior to not only Barack Obama but also George Bush Jr and Sr. He seems to be more committed to both principles, although not to the extent or with the charisma of Ronald Reagan.

Reagan understood economic principles. I believe Romney has a pretty good grasp on them as well.

So, no, I am not thrilled about Romney. However, I do believe that he will be vastly superior to Barack Obama and even most Republicans.
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4/27/2012 12:53:33 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
As many others said before, Romney is not an ideal candidate. He leaves a lot to be desired and quite frankly, I'd rather have a person like Ron Paul as President.

However, Romney is infinitely better than Obama. At least Romney promised to his constituency to stop anti-businesses rhetoric and implement effective economic free market type measures.

In essence, it's whether I would pick a 2 (Obama) or a 6 (Romney) on a 1-10 scale.
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4/27/2012 1:29:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/26/2012 9:20:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Because Obama is the single worst president we've ever had. He's never led anything in his life and he has proven it time and time again. He surrounded himself with some of the most incompetent people in Washington and has poorly represented the United States abroad. The economy has improved negligibly under him. He has done nothing to improve this country and I think that 4 more years with him will be dangerous.

No one can be as bad as Obama.

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4/27/2012 6:51:19 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 1:29:32 AM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/26/2012 9:20:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
Because Obama is the single worst president we've ever had. He's never led anything in his life and he has proven it time and time again. He surrounded himself with some of the most incompetent people in Washington and has poorly represented the United States abroad. The economy has improved negligibly under him. He has done nothing to improve this country and I think that 4 more years with him will be dangerous.

No one can be as bad as Obama.

FDR

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4/27/2012 8:43:54 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 12:18:45 AM, Ameriman wrote:
Yes, Ronald Reagan would be the model president.

He was the last president to truly champion the principles of American exceptionalism
Lol. What American exceptionalism? I can think of no positive "exceptional" traits of American government (or people for that matter, but atleast the American people have positive traits, even if they aren't all that exceptional)

and economic freedom.

Actually false. He was better than many be he most certainly was not as free-market as the story is told (he supported protectionism, was worse at cutting government expenditure than Ford and Carter - and even increased government spending, he tripled the gross federal debt, increased petrol taxes, and slowed down/stopped many deregulations started by Carter)

Reagan wasn't a good president.
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4/27/2012 9:18:03 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 8:43:54 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 4/27/2012 12:18:45 AM, Ameriman wrote:
Yes, Ronald Reagan would be the model president.

He was the last president to truly champion the principles of American exceptionalism
Lol. What American exceptionalism? I can think of no positive "exceptional" traits of American government (or people for that matter, but atleast the American people have positive traits, even if they aren't all that exceptional)

and economic freedom.

Actually false. He was better than many be he most certainly was not as free-market as the story is told (he supported protectionism, was worse at cutting government expenditure than Ford and Carter - and even increased government spending, he tripled the gross federal debt, increased petrol taxes, and slowed down/stopped many deregulations started by Carter)

Reagan wasn't a good president.

American exceptionalism is about the supremacy of the values that America was founded upon. Those values are economic freedom, hard work, a faith in God, and personal responsibility among others. Of course there have been blips along the way. But, taken as a whole, America has been an overwhelming force of good in the world and the model has worked in an, if you will, exceptional, way.

As far as Ronald Reagan goes, it is hard to argue that he was not for substantially more economic freedom. Look at marginal tax rates. The top marginal tax rate fell from 70% to 28% while he was president. Look at inflation, he, unlike Carter, Ford, and Nixon, recognized that inflation was a monetary phenomenon. So, he allowed Volcker to slow the money supply growth which caused short term harm to the economy but was good for the long term.

As far as spending goes, he actually was very good at controlling domestic spending. However, he did increase the size of the military and interest on the debt went up. I personally believe that the military build up was a good thing, but that is a matter of debate. On deregulation, it is hard to argue that Reagan was not a deregulator. Reagan ended oil price controls and deregulated finance, the environment, agricutlure, transportation.

He also was the only president since the creation of the minimum wage not to raise it.
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4/27/2012 9:19:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 8:43:54 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 4/27/2012 12:18:45 AM, Ameriman wrote:
Yes, Ronald Reagan would be the model president.

He was the last president to truly champion the principles of American exceptionalism
Lol. What American exceptionalism? I can think of no positive "exceptional" traits of American government (or people for that matter, but atleast the American people have positive traits, even if they aren't all that exceptional)

Eh, your still bitter we whopped your butts when your military was 10X better than ours. :D
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4/27/2012 9:23:05 AM
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Reagan wasn't a good president.:

A more preferable outcome would have been if Barry Goldwater beat him.
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4/27/2012 9:34:36 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
How could anyone support Romney you would agree with him an then next month he will be saying something completely contradictory to what would have won you over in the first place. he is a lobbyist puppet and completely incompetent when it comes to the constitution.
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4/27/2012 11:20:02 AM
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At 4/26/2012 9:20:54 PM, Koopin wrote:
Romney dropped out earlier today!

I don't believe you
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4/27/2012 4:22:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:18:03 AM, Ameriman wrote:
At 4/27/2012 8:43:54 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 4/27/2012 12:18:45 AM, Ameriman wrote:
Yes, Ronald Reagan would be the model president.

He was the last president to truly champion the principles of American exceptionalism
Lol. What American exceptionalism? I can think of no positive "exceptional" traits of American government (or people for that matter, but atleast the American people have positive traits, even if they aren't all that exceptional)

and economic freedom.

Actually false. He was better than many be he most certainly was not as free-market as the story is told (he supported protectionism, was worse at cutting government expenditure than Ford and Carter - and even increased government spending, he tripled the gross federal debt, increased petrol taxes, and slowed down/stopped many deregulations started by Carter)

Reagan wasn't a good president.


American exceptionalism is about the supremacy of the values that America was founded upon. Those values are economic freedom

Lol. Not unique, and America isn't a great example of it.

hard work,

Not unique, and America isn't a great example of it.

a faith in God,

Not unique, and America isn't a great example of it.

and personal responsibility among others.

Not unique, and America isn't a great example of it.

Of course there have been blips along the way. But, taken as a whole, America has been an overwhelming force of good in the world and the model has worked in an, if you will, exceptional, way.

On balance, the US government has been one of the greater forces of evil (whether intentional or not) over the last 30 odd years. The British government probably comes as a close second for doing nearly everything the american government does, but on a smaller scale.

As far as Ronald Reagan goes, it is hard to argue that he was not for substantially more economic freedom. Look at marginal tax rates. The top marginal tax rate fell from 70% to 28% while he was president. Look at inflation, he, unlike Carter, Ford, and Nixon, recognized that inflation was a monetary phenomenon. So, he allowed Volcker to slow the money supply growth which caused short term harm to the economy but was good for the long term.

He had a few free market moments, but that does not make him a supporter of free -markets considering the vast amount of non-freemarket stuff he did.

As far as spending goes, he actually was very good at controlling domestic spending. However, he did increase the size of the military and interest on the debt went up. I personally believe that the military build up was a good thing, but that is a matter of debate. On deregulation, it is hard to argue that Reagan was not a deregulator. Reagan ended oil price controls and deregulated finance, the environment, agricutlure, transportation.

See above. He halted many deregulatory processes in the name of partisan politics.

He also was the only president since the creation of the minimum wage not to raise it.

Big woop. He could have abolished it.
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4/27/2012 4:45:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:18:03 AM, Ameriman wrote:
At 4/27/2012 8:43:54 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 4/27/2012 12:18:45 AM, Ameriman wrote:
Yes, Ronald Reagan would be the model president.

He was the last president to truly champion the principles of American exceptionalism
Lol. What American exceptionalism? I can think of no positive "exceptional" traits of American government (or people for that matter, but atleast the American people have positive traits, even if they aren't all that exceptional)

and economic freedom.

Actually false. He was better than many be he most certainly was not as free-market as the story is told (he supported protectionism, was worse at cutting government expenditure than Ford and Carter - and even increased government spending, he tripled the gross federal debt, increased petrol taxes, and slowed down/stopped many deregulations started by Carter)

Reagan wasn't a good president.


American exceptionalism is about the supremacy of the values that America was founded upon. Those values are economic freedom, hard work, a faith in God, and personal responsibility among others. Of course there have been blips along the way. But, taken as a whole, America has been an overwhelming force of good in the world and the model has worked in an, if you will, exceptional, way.

As far as Ronald Reagan goes, it is hard to argue that he was not for substantially more economic freedom. Look at marginal tax rates. The top marginal tax rate fell from 70% to 28% while he was president. Look at inflation, he, unlike Carter, Ford, and Nixon, recognized that inflation was a monetary phenomenon. So, he allowed Volcker to slow the money supply growth which caused short term harm to the economy but was good for the long term.

As far as spending goes, he actually was very good at controlling domestic spending. However, he did increase the size of the military and interest on the debt went up. I personally believe that the military build up was a good thing, but that is a matter of debate. On deregulation, it is hard to argue that Reagan was not a deregulator. Reagan ended oil price controls and deregulated finance, the environment, agricutlure, transportation.

He also was the only president since the creation of the minimum wage not to raise it.

American exceptionalism is another word for propaganda, but of course only the other falls prey to propaganda...
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4/27/2012 4:50:54 PM
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Please don't get me wrong; I love the American people. There are many great things I have to say about you guys, even if none of them are unique to you guys - but the only adjective I could put after the word "exceptionally" when describing the American government is bad.
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4/27/2012 4:51:55 PM
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At 4/27/2012 4:50:54 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
Please don't get me wrong; I love the American people. There are many great things I have to say about you guys, even if none of them are unique to you guys - but the only adjective I could put after the word "exceptionally" when describing the American government is bad.

(Naturally only because of the scale of the american government - my government makes the same bad choices - they just have less impact because we have less power)
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4/27/2012 4:53:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 4:45:51 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/27/2012 9:18:03 AM, Ameriman wrote:
At 4/27/2012 8:43:54 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 4/27/2012 12:18:45 AM, Ameriman wrote:
Yes, Ronald Reagan would be the model president.

He was the last president to truly champion the principles of American exceptionalism
Lol. What American exceptionalism? I can think of no positive "exceptional" traits of American government (or people for that matter, but atleast the American people have positive traits, even if they aren't all that exceptional)

and economic freedom.

Actually false. He was better than many be he most certainly was not as free-market as the story is told (he supported protectionism, was worse at cutting government expenditure than Ford and Carter - and even increased government spending, he tripled the gross federal debt, increased petrol taxes, and slowed down/stopped many deregulations started by Carter)

Reagan wasn't a good president.


American exceptionalism is about the supremacy of the values that America was founded upon. Those values are economic freedom, hard work, a faith in God, and personal responsibility among others. Of course there have been blips along the way. But, taken as a whole, America has been an overwhelming force of good in the world and the model has worked in an, if you will, exceptional, way.

As far as Ronald Reagan goes, it is hard to argue that he was not for substantially more economic freedom. Look at marginal tax rates. The top marginal tax rate fell from 70% to 28% while he was president. Look at inflation, he, unlike Carter, Ford, and Nixon, recognized that inflation was a monetary phenomenon. So, he allowed Volcker to slow the money supply growth which caused short term harm to the economy but was good for the long term.

As far as spending goes, he actually was very good at controlling domestic spending. However, he did increase the size of the military and interest on the debt went up. I personally believe that the military build up was a good thing, but that is a matter of debate. On deregulation, it is hard to argue that Reagan was not a deregulator. Reagan ended oil price controls and deregulated finance, the environment, agricutlure, transportation.

He also was the only president since the creation of the minimum wage not to raise it.

American exceptionalism is another word for propaganda, but of course only the other falls prey to propaganda...

How do you define propaganda?
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4/27/2012 4:54:44 PM
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George Bush was a neoconservative. The "Clear Air Act", "Healthy Forests Act" (better called No tree left behind), the standardized testing, the huge tax cuts, unilateralism, higher defense spending, and less regulation (in housing sector) are all traits of neocons.
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4/27/2012 4:56:18 PM
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At 4/27/2012 4:54:44 PM, Contra wrote:
George Bush was a neoconservative. The "Clear Air Act", "Healthy Forests Act" (better called No tree left behind), the standardized testing, the huge tax cuts, unilateralism, higher defense spending, and less regulation (in housing sector) are all traits of neocons.

Did George Bush get rid of any regulations?

Or, is that just a talking point from President Obama that you are blindly repeating?
We spend too much our time measuring compassion for those in needs by measuring inputs. How much money are we spending? How many programs are we creating? But we are not focusing on outcomes. Are these programs working? Are people getting out of poverty?
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4/27/2012 4:56:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 4:53:03 PM, Ameriman wrote:
At 4/27/2012 4:45:51 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/27/2012 9:18:03 AM, Ameriman wrote:
At 4/27/2012 8:43:54 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 4/27/2012 12:18:45 AM, Ameriman wrote:
Yes, Ronald Reagan would be the model president.

He was the last president to truly champion the principles of American exceptionalism
Lol. What American exceptionalism? I can think of no positive "exceptional" traits of American government (or people for that matter, but atleast the American people have positive traits, even if they aren't all that exceptional)

and economic freedom.

Actually false. He was better than many be he most certainly was not as free-market as the story is told (he supported protectionism, was worse at cutting government expenditure than Ford and Carter - and even increased government spending, he tripled the gross federal debt, increased petrol taxes, and slowed down/stopped many deregulations started by Carter)

Reagan wasn't a good president.


American exceptionalism is about the supremacy of the values that America was founded upon. Those values are economic freedom, hard work, a faith in God, and personal responsibility among others. Of course there have been blips along the way. But, taken as a whole, America has been an overwhelming force of good in the world and the model has worked in an, if you will, exceptional, way.

As far as Ronald Reagan goes, it is hard to argue that he was not for substantially more economic freedom. Look at marginal tax rates. The top marginal tax rate fell from 70% to 28% while he was president. Look at inflation, he, unlike Carter, Ford, and Nixon, recognized that inflation was a monetary phenomenon. So, he allowed Volcker to slow the money supply growth which caused short term harm to the economy but was good for the long term.

As far as spending goes, he actually was very good at controlling domestic spending. However, he did increase the size of the military and interest on the debt went up. I personally believe that the military build up was a good thing, but that is a matter of debate. On deregulation, it is hard to argue that Reagan was not a deregulator. Reagan ended oil price controls and deregulated finance, the environment, agricutlure, transportation.

He also was the only president since the creation of the minimum wage not to raise it.

American exceptionalism is another word for propaganda, but of course only the other falls prey to propaganda...


How do you define propaganda?

With a dictionary.
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4/27/2012 4:59:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 4:56:18 PM, Ameriman wrote:
At 4/27/2012 4:54:44 PM, Contra wrote:
George Bush was a neoconservative. The "Clear Air Act", "Healthy Forests Act" (better called No tree left behind), the standardized testing, the huge tax cuts, unilateralism, higher defense spending, and less regulation (in housing sector) are all traits of neocons.


Did George Bush get rid of any regulations?

Or, is that just a talking point from President Obama that you are blindly repeating?

Bush appointed Bernanke Fed Chairman, which was as bad for the economy as anything.
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