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lewis20
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5/5/2012 12:13:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I've decided to vote straight libertarian this year. Currently watching the libertarian nomination on C-SPAN and while there are some characters, these are the people we want in office. The nomination "debate" is both candidates agreeing on every issue and Gary Johnson is right when he says the Libertarian party is the best of what both major parties claim to be.
If you realize neither Republicans nor Democrats deserve your vote I'd suggest looking into the libertarian party.
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5/5/2012 1:48:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I think instead of running in the GOP Ron Paul should have branched off and headed the Libertarian Party. He could have really put it on the map for years to come...

Missed opportunity.
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5/5/2012 3:32:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/5/2012 1:48:03 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
I think instead of running in the GOP Ron Paul should have branched off and headed the Libertarian Party. He could have really put it on the map for years to come...

Missed opportunity.

This is actually somewhat true.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

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5/6/2012 9:27:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/5/2012 3:32:07 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/5/2012 1:48:03 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
I think instead of running in the GOP Ron Paul should have branched off and headed the Libertarian Party. He could have really put it on the map for years to come...

Missed opportunity.

This is actually somewhat true.

You forget, his main goal is not to get to the Presidency. His main goal is to spread the Ron Paul Movement. When was the last time you ever saw something pretaining to the Libertarian Party nominations? For me, never. But when he runs on the Republican ticket, he gets publicized everyday.

Libertarian Ballot=Nomination
Republican Ballot=Publicity

Ron Paul wants the latter, and he is certainly getting 10 times as much if not more publicity on the Republican Ballot than he would ever get on the Libertarian Ballot.
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5/6/2012 10:05:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 9:27:26 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 5/5/2012 3:32:07 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/5/2012 1:48:03 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
I think instead of running in the GOP Ron Paul should have branched off and headed the Libertarian Party. He could have really put it on the map for years to come...

Missed opportunity.

This is actually somewhat true.

You forget, his main goal is not to get to the Presidency. His main goal is to spread the Ron Paul Movement. When was the last time you ever saw something pretaining to the Libertarian Party nominations? For me, never. But when he runs on the Republican ticket, he gets publicized everyday.

Libertarian Ballot=Nomination
Republican Ballot=Publicity

Ron Paul wants the latter, and he is certainly getting 10 times as much if not more publicity on the Republican Ballot than he would ever get on the Libertarian Ballot.

This is true which is why I can never respect Ron Paul. Instead of sticking to his beliefs and trying to start a new movement in something he believed in he instead only grovelled for votes.
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5/6/2012 10:08:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 10:05:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:

This is true which is why I can never respect Ron Paul. Instead of sticking to his beliefs and trying to start a new movement in something he believed in he instead only grovelled for votes.

*cough* Mitt Romney *cough*
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5/6/2012 10:14:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 10:08:39 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 5/6/2012 10:05:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:

This is true which is why I can never respect Ron Paul. Instead of sticking to his beliefs and trying to start a new movement in something he believed in he instead only grovelled for votes.

*cough* Mitt Romney *cough*

You know what? I don't give a damnn. Because Barrack Obama's beliefs are as appealing as eating a bowl of dog crap after having sex with Rosie O'Donnell. I'm sick of these stupid quips.

Obama can suck my dick. Honesty. I hate the man and his policies. So I really don't care.
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5/6/2012 10:20:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 10:14:35 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/6/2012 10:08:39 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 5/6/2012 10:05:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:

This is true which is why I can never respect Ron Paul. Instead of sticking to his beliefs and trying to start a new movement in something he believed in he instead only grovelled for votes.

*cough* Mitt Romney *cough*

You know what? I don't give a damnn. Because Barrack Obama's beliefs are as appealing as eating a bowl of dog crap after having sex with Rosie O'Donnell. I'm sick of these stupid quips.

Obama can suck my dick. Honesty. I hate the man and his policies. So I really don't care.

And this is why I take your opinion seriously.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

I believe in the heart of the cards. .:DDO Duelist:.
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5/6/2012 10:22:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 10:20:48 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/6/2012 10:14:35 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/6/2012 10:08:39 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 5/6/2012 10:05:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:

This is true which is why I can never respect Ron Paul. Instead of sticking to his beliefs and trying to start a new movement in something he believed in he instead only grovelled for votes.

*cough* Mitt Romney *cough*

You know what? I don't give a damnn. Because Barrack Obama's beliefs are as appealing as eating a bowl of dog crap after having sex with Rosie O'Donnell. I'm sick of these stupid quips.

Obama can suck my dick. Honesty. I hate the man and his policies. So I really don't care.

And this is why I take your opinion seriously.

Lol.

Sorry. Lost my cool there for a second. But forreal,

Obama's views are just about as opposite as you can get from mine so I'd be prone to elect a shoe before I cast my vote for him.
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5/6/2012 10:26:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 10:23:20 PM, Koopin wrote:
Obama aside, do you respect Mitt or think he will be a good President CP?

I respect his business experience. I think that he has the sense and experience to surround himself with good people (something Obama epicly failed at) and make the the decisions he thinks are best for the country.

I can tell Romney loves this country and will do his best to improve it.

I think he will make a good president. On a scale of FDR to Reagan I think he'll score a solid Eisenhower.
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5/6/2012 10:48:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Lee Wrights was a much better candidate.
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5/6/2012 11:55:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/5/2012 1:48:03 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
I think instead of running in the GOP Ron Paul should have branched off and headed the Libertarian Party. He could have really put it on the map for years to come...

Missed opportunity.

That = obama wins.
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5/7/2012 3:46:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Only in America do you get "I dislike candidate X, Therefore I must vote candidate Y", i.e. tactical voting.
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5/7/2012 6:45:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 10:05:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/6/2012 9:27:26 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 5/5/2012 3:32:07 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/5/2012 1:48:03 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
I think instead of running in the GOP Ron Paul should have branched off and headed the Libertarian Party. He could have really put it on the map for years to come...

Missed opportunity.

This is actually somewhat true.

You forget, his main goal is not to get to the Presidency. His main goal is to spread the Ron Paul Movement. When was the last time you ever saw something pretaining to the Libertarian Party nominations? For me, never. But when he runs on the Republican ticket, he gets publicized everyday.

Libertarian Ballot=Nomination
Republican Ballot=Publicity

Ron Paul wants the latter, and he is certainly getting 10 times as much if not more publicity on the Republican Ballot than he would ever get on the Libertarian Ballot.

This is true which is why I can never respect Ron Paul. Instead of sticking to his beliefs and trying to start a new movement in something he believed in he instead only grovelled for votes.

He didn't go Republican for the votes so much as for the publicity. That's something that helps the entire movement.
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5/7/2012 6:49:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 10:05:12 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/6/2012 9:27:26 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 5/5/2012 3:32:07 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/5/2012 1:48:03 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
I think instead of running in the GOP Ron Paul should have branched off and headed the Libertarian Party. He could have really put it on the map for years to come...

Missed opportunity.

This is actually somewhat true.

You forget, his main goal is not to get to the Presidency. His main goal is to spread the Ron Paul Movement. When was the last time you ever saw something pretaining to the Libertarian Party nominations? For me, never. But when he runs on the Republican ticket, he gets publicized everyday.

Libertarian Ballot=Nomination
Republican Ballot=Publicity

Ron Paul wants the latter, and he is certainly getting 10 times as much if not more publicity on the Republican Ballot than he would ever get on the Libertarian Ballot.

This is true which is why I can never respect Ron Paul. Instead of sticking to his beliefs and trying to start a new movement in something he believed in he instead only grovelled for votes.

But he is trying to start a new movement. He has already started it and he is trying to gain it some monemtum. He is not grovelling over votes, he is trying to make his movement bigger and more permenant. The reason you have no respect for Ron Paul is because you do not like his beliefs, being a Libertarian. If you actually thought about it, his beliefs are the best of any politican's out there. But neo-cons never listen... No point in trying to argue.
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5/7/2012 2:22:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/5/2012 3:32:07 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/5/2012 1:48:03 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
I think instead of running in the GOP Ron Paul should have branched off and headed the Libertarian Party. He could have really put it on the map for years to come...

Missed opportunity.

This is actually somewhat true.

FALSE.

If Ron Paul ran as a Libertarian he would be excluded from every debate, the media would ignore him even more, and he would ruin Rand Paul's political career with the GOP.
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5/7/2012 2:23:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 3:46:32 AM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
Only in America do you get "I dislike candidate X, Therefore I must vote candidate Y", i.e. tactical voting.

What.
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5/7/2012 2:23:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 2:23:44 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 5/7/2012 3:46:32 AM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
Only in America do you get "I dislike candidate X, Therefore I must vote candidate Y", i.e. tactical voting.

What.

Oh, sarcasm. My bad.
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5/7/2012 5:06:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 10:26:13 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/6/2012 10:23:20 PM, Koopin wrote:
Obama aside, do you respect Mitt or think he will be a good President CP?

I respect his business experience. I think that he has the sense and experience to surround himself with good people (something Obama epicly failed at) and make the the decisions he thinks are best for the country.

I can tell Romney loves this country and will do his best to improve it.

I think he will make a good president. On a scale of Bush '43 to Reagan I think he'll score a solid Eisenhower.

Fixed.
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5/8/2012 12:12:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 10:26:13 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/6/2012 10:23:20 PM, Koopin wrote:
Obama aside, do you respect Mitt or think he will be a good President CP?

I respect his business experience. I think that he has the sense and experience to surround himself with good people (something Obama epicly failed at) and make the the decisions he thinks are best for the country.

Romney is going to surround himself by the same people Obama has, who are the same people Bush did. While at the moment Romney will say anything that he thinks will get him elected, he has praised Ben Bernanke in the past and he will appoint whoever the big banks he works for tell him to appoint.
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