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5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.
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5/7/2012 5:49:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
So you sh!t in the well and when half of the sh!t is cleaned out, you want us to congratulate you?
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5/7/2012 5:58:06 PM
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At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Are you talking about gas prices or the price for a barrel of oil? And from what I read, gas prices are down ten cents a gallon on average but still relatively high.

Even so, no one has adequately explained to me how the President is responsible for the price of oil. But your ignorance both worries me and annoys me. Democrats did the same thing when Bush was in office. Did you complain then?

Also, I'm just going to put this out there. You rightfully call out the Republicans on some of their bullsh!t but at the same time, you ignore that fact the Democrats are also guiltly of the same bullsh!t.
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5/7/2012 5:59:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
No nation has power over the way the oil price is set globally. This is just a political game filled with buzzwords like "gouge" and "deregulation"
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5/7/2012 6:05:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 5:58:06 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Are you talking about gas prices or the price for a barrel of oil? And from what I read, gas prices are down ten cents a gallon on average but still relatively high.

The price per gallon was down I believe almost $10 a barrel over the past week/ couple weeks.

Even so, no one has adequately explained to me how the President is responsible for the price of oil. But your ignorance both worries me and annoys me. Democrats did the same thing when Bush was in office. Did you complain then?

Yes, gas was about $4.40

Still, the Republican mainstream has thought that the President controls oil prices. This is bs. My question was a rhetorical one using Republican logic (or at least the logic I have heard).

Also, I'm just going to put this out there. You rightfully call out the Republicans on some of their bullsh!t but at the same time, you ignore that fact the Democrats are also guiltly of the same bullsh!t.

I guess
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5/7/2012 6:05:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

If Obama would drill in the Atlantic, pass the Keystone Pipline and drill in the ANWR...
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5/7/2012 6:12:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 6:05:25 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

If Obama would drill in the Atlantic, pass the Keystone Pipline and drill in the ANWR...

It would take about 15 or more years to produce oil at the highest productivity at ANWR, and at top production would produce an estimated 1.5 million barrels of oil daily, compared to the national usage of over 19 million barrels. It would only reduce our foreign oil usage by a small percentage, when during that time we could develop more alternative energy sources.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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5/7/2012 6:13:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 6:12:40 PM, Contra wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:05:25 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

If Obama would drill in the Atlantic, pass the Keystone Pipline and drill in the ANWR...

It would take about 15 or more years to produce oil at the highest productivity at ANWR, and at top production would produce an estimated 1.5 million barrels of oil daily, compared to the national usage of over 19 million barrels. It would only reduce our foreign oil usage by a small percentage, when during that time we could develop more alternative energy sources.

Do you have any source for this data? Just curious where you getting these numbers from.
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5/7/2012 6:16:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 6:13:51 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:12:40 PM, Contra wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:05:25 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

If Obama would drill in the Atlantic, pass the Keystone Pipline and drill in the ANWR...

It would take about 15 or more years to produce oil at the highest productivity at ANWR, and at top production would produce an estimated 1.5 million barrels of oil daily, compared to the national usage of over 19 million barrels. It would only reduce our foreign oil usage by a small percentage, when during that time we could develop more alternative energy sources.

Do you have any source for this data? Just curious where you getting these numbers from.

Ted Nordhaus and Michael Shellenberger, "The Death of Environmentalism," Grist.org, January 13 2005.

^
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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5/7/2012 6:27:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 6:16:56 PM, Contra wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:13:51 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:12:40 PM, Contra wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:05:25 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

If Obama would drill in the Atlantic, pass the Keystone Pipline and drill in the ANWR...

It would take about 15 or more years to produce oil at the highest productivity at ANWR, and at top production would produce an estimated 1.5 million barrels of oil daily, compared to the national usage of over 19 million barrels. It would only reduce our foreign oil usage by a small percentage, when during that time we could develop more alternative energy sources.

Do you have any source for this data? Just curious where you getting these numbers from.

Ted Nordhaus and Michael Shellenberger, "The Death of Environmentalism," Grist.org, January 13 2005.

^

http://grist.org...

This it. Couldn't find anything.
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5/7/2012 6:36:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Over the last 3 years gases prices have risen by $1.63 per dollar. Over the last 3 months gas prices have risen by $0.32

Unless you are looking at the last month $0.15 decrease over the last month, I don't see how you can claim a gas prices have decreased. Frankly 1 month is too short to measure progress of the gas industry.
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5/7/2012 6:36:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 6:36:12 PM, DanT wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Over the last 3 years gases prices have risen by $1.63 per dollar. Over the last 3 months gas prices have risen by $0.32

Unless you are looking at the last month $0.15 decrease over the last month, I don't see how you can claim a gas prices have decreased. Frankly 1 month is too short to measure progress of the gas industry.

source: http://gasbuddy.com...
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5/7/2012 6:36:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
This is a common tactic. The Democrats blamed Bush for oil prices, and Republicans were quick to say every reason the President is not to blame. Now it's just a matter of swapping words. Democrats with Repubs, Bush with Obama, and Dems with Repubs. Politics is such bs.
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: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

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5/7/2012 6:38:11 PM
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At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Really? Because.. correct me if I'm wrong... Wasn't gas $1.95 a gallon when your dear leader took office?

And now they're... $3.70?

Sorry if I don't bow down and worship Obama like you for the $1.75 increase per gallon.
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5/7/2012 6:43:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 6:38:11 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Really? Because.. correct me if I'm wrong... Wasn't gas $1.95 a gallon when your dear leader took office?

And now they're... $3.70?

Sorry if I don't bow down and worship Obama like you for the $1.75 increase per gallon.

This is the point, dude. You can't say a $1.75 increase in oil is due to Obama. o.O
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

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5/7/2012 6:44:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 6:43:37 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:38:11 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Really? Because.. correct me if I'm wrong... Wasn't gas $1.95 a gallon when your dear leader took office?

And now they're... $3.70?

Sorry if I don't bow down and worship Obama like you for the $1.75 increase per gallon.

This is the point, dude. You can't say a $1.75 increase in oil is due to Obama. o.O

Really? They said the increase in the last term of Bush was his fault. Now it's my turn.
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5/7/2012 6:45:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 6:43:37 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:38:11 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Really? Because.. correct me if I'm wrong... Wasn't gas $1.95 a gallon when your dear leader took office?

And now they're... $3.70?

Sorry if I don't bow down and worship Obama like you for the $1.75 increase per gallon.

This is the point, dude. You can't say a $1.75 increase in oil is due to Obama. o.O

Truth is the president takes the blame for everything that happens on his watch. I'm not going easy on Obama, this is how all presidents have it.
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5/7/2012 6:47:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 6:44:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:43:37 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:38:11 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Really? Because.. correct me if I'm wrong... Wasn't gas $1.95 a gallon when your dear leader took office?

And now they're... $3.70?

Sorry if I don't bow down and worship Obama like you for the $1.75 increase per gallon.

This is the point, dude. You can't say a $1.75 increase in oil is due to Obama. o.O

Really? They said the increase in the last term of Bush was his fault. Now it's my turn.

STILL THE POINT I WAS SAYING ABOVE. lol
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: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

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5/7/2012 6:47:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 6:45:24 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:43:37 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:38:11 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Really? Because.. correct me if I'm wrong... Wasn't gas $1.95 a gallon when your dear leader took office?

And now they're... $3.70?

Sorry if I don't bow down and worship Obama like you for the $1.75 increase per gallon.

This is the point, dude. You can't say a $1.75 increase in oil is due to Obama. o.O

Truth is the president takes the blame for everything that happens on his watch. I'm not going easy on Obama, this is how all presidents have it.

And this supports the truthfulness of your argument, surely.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

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5/7/2012 6:49:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/7/2012 5:59:12 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
No nation has power over the way the oil price is set globally. This is just a political game filled with buzzwords like "gouge" and "deregulation"

Youre right. David Rockefeller has the power over oil.
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5/7/2012 6:56:09 PM
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At 5/7/2012 6:38:11 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Really? Because.. correct me if I'm wrong... Wasn't gas $1.95 a gallon when your dear leader took office?

And now they're... $3.70?

Sorry if I don't bow down and worship Obama like you for the $1.75 increase per gallon.

This is what happens when you attempt to blame someone or something for an event they had no power over. When the opposite suddenly happens you just look like a complete snob blaming them for the cause, then avoiding the praise when it reverses.

And no I don't consider Obama my Dear Leader. He has fell short in many areas.
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"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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5/7/2012 6:56:54 PM
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Besides, Bush's war in Iraq raised demand for oil, causing a spike in prices.
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"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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5/7/2012 6:58:32 PM
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At 5/7/2012 5:49:11 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
So you sh!t in the well and when half of the sh!t is cleaned out, you want us to congratulate you?
Please explain how Obama "sh!t" in the well? This should be good...
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5/7/2012 6:58:58 PM
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As long as we continue to have a scapegoat-in-chief, nothing positive will ever evolve with this country for the future, no matter what your political ideology is.
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5/7/2012 7:02:25 PM
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At 5/7/2012 6:56:54 PM, Contra wrote:
Besides, Bush's war in Iraq raised demand for oil, causing a spike in prices.

And Obama's moratorium on Gulf oil drilling, rejection of the Keystone Pipeline and threats to raise taxes on oil companies have caused a huge blow to supply.
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5/7/2012 7:05:41 PM
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At 5/7/2012 7:02:25 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:56:54 PM, Contra wrote:
Besides, Bush's war in Iraq raised demand for oil, causing a spike in prices.

And Obama's moratorium on Gulf oil drilling, rejection of the Keystone Pipeline and threats to raise taxes on oil companies have caused a huge blow to supply.

I think I've stated before that the increase in demand for oil from the war was something ridiculously low, lower than 1% for the domestic demand. And of course oil prices are based on world demand, in which US is only 33%, so less than .33% increase in demand from the gulf wars.
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5/7/2012 7:06:13 PM
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At 5/7/2012 6:47:19 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:44:52 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:43:37 PM, M.Torres wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:38:11 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

Really? Because.. correct me if I'm wrong... Wasn't gas $1.95 a gallon when your dear leader took office?

And now they're... $3.70?

Sorry if I don't bow down and worship Obama like you for the $1.75 increase per gallon.

This is the point, dude. You can't say a $1.75 increase in oil is due to Obama. o.O

Really? They said the increase in the last term of Bush was his fault. Now it's my turn.

STILL THE POINT I WAS SAYING ABOVE. lol

Obamas policies directly have reduced the supply of oil by denying gulf drilling, keystone pipeline, and raising taxes on oil companies.
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5/7/2012 7:06:54 PM
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At 5/7/2012 6:12:40 PM, Contra wrote:
At 5/7/2012 6:05:25 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
At 5/7/2012 5:47:58 PM, Contra wrote:
The GOP said that Obama was responsible for the increase in oil prices, so now that prices are down over 30 cents a gallon over the past couple weeks, where is the GOP's compliments? Ignorant hyprocrites.

If Obama would drill in the Atlantic, pass the Keystone Pipline and drill in the ANWR...

It would take about 15 or more years to produce oil at the highest productivity at ANWR, and at top production would produce an estimated 1.5 million barrels of oil daily, compared to the national usage of over 19 million barrels. It would only reduce our foreign oil usage by a small percentage, when during that time we could develop more alternative energy sources.

If we drilled for our own oil, wouldn't that eliminate our dependence on foreign oil? Also, any source on that data? And plus, the ANWR is just one place. There's also the Gulf of Mexico, the Atlantic, the Keystone XL Pipeline, the 48 states (like North Dakota), and countless other place. Any date for them?
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5/7/2012 7:06:55 PM
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At 5/7/2012 6:58:58 PM, Greyparrot wrote:
As long as we continue to have a scapegoat-in-chief, nothing positive will ever evolve with this country for the future, no matter what your political ideology is.

Thank you!
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

I'm an Apatheistic Ignostic. ... problem? ;D

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