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5/15/2012 2:12:53 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
After managing my nation for a few weeks on the political theory simulator NationStates, it has reached a status which was rather quite accurate and in line with my Libertarian Totalitarian ideals.

The Federal Republic of Geosymposia
http://www.nationstates.net...

Motto: "Condemned to be Free"
Category: Libertarian Police State
Civil Rights: Excessive / Economy: Good / Political Freedoms: Few

"The Federal Republic of Geosymposia is a large, socially progressive nation, renowned for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 77 million are proud of their wide-ranging civil freedoms, and those who aren't tend to be dragged off the streets by men in dark suits and hustled into cars with tinted windows."

Surveillance cameras are banned.
Elections are outlawed.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

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-- Frederic Bastiat
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5/15/2012 2:46:58 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Sounds very interesting...

I don't think I've heard of, or would understand the practicality, of a government restricting the freedom of people who complained about having too much freedom.

But it seems everyone is happy then, so well done.
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5/15/2012 3:04:25 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Very new, we'll see about the progress.

The Theocracy of Islamic Liberation

Civil Rights:
Good

Economy: Very Strong

Political Freedoms: Excellent

Will see about the development.
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5/15/2012 3:06:40 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 2:46:58 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
Sounds very interesting...

I don't think I've heard of, or would understand the practicality, of a government restricting the freedom of people who complained about having too much freedom.

It's to ensure that thoughts of fascism never creep up and the possibility of a fascist taking control is eliminated.
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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5/15/2012 3:13:02 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 3:06:40 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 5/15/2012 2:46:58 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
Sounds very interesting...

I don't think I've heard of, or would understand the practicality, of a government restricting the freedom of people who complained about having too much freedom.

It's to ensure that thoughts of fascism never creep up and the possibility of a fascist taking control is eliminated.

Seems like a worthy goal then... I approve.

'You'll take this freedom, and you'll like it. Or else.' :)
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5/15/2012 3:17:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 3:06:40 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 5/15/2012 2:46:58 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
Sounds very interesting...

I don't think I've heard of, or would understand the practicality, of a government restricting the freedom of people who complained about having too much freedom.

It's to ensure that thoughts of fascism never creep up and the possibility of a fascist taking control is eliminated.

In order to stop a fascist (or authoritarian) state from emerging, you create an authoritarian state. Right....
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5/15/2012 3:32:41 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 3:17:07 AM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
In order to stop a fascist (or authoritarian) state from emerging, you create an authoritarian state. Right....

Yes. It's called Libertarian Totalitarianism. It's a completely consistent system that has no flaws and ensures the maximum amount of freedom in the most sustainable manner.

What happens if you have a Libertarian or Anarchist society, but no government enforcing freedom, a government that is weak and easily overthrown, or a lack of government which opens up room for a fascist government to take its place.

There's only one answer to the above problems: Libertarian Totalitarianism. You need a strong government that effectively deters all fascists and ensures that freedom endures permanently.

Also, it is a Federal Republic. So it is made up of a small group of the highest intellectuals, philosophers, economists, and political scientists. It's not a single rule. There's no room for a power grab.
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5/15/2012 6:54:03 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Endorse me

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5/15/2012 9:02:38 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 3:06:40 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 5/15/2012 2:46:58 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
Sounds very interesting...

I don't think I've heard of, or would understand the practicality, of a government restricting the freedom of people who complained about having too much freedom.

It's to ensure that thoughts of fascism never creep up and the possibility of a fascist taking control is eliminated.

You do realize that you implemented fascism in the process of eliminating it, right?
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5/15/2012 9:15:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 9:02:38 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 5/15/2012 3:06:40 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 5/15/2012 2:46:58 AM, airmax1227 wrote:
Sounds very interesting...

I don't think I've heard of, or would understand the practicality, of a government restricting the freedom of people who complained about having too much freedom.

It's to ensure that thoughts of fascism never creep up and the possibility of a fascist taking control is eliminated.

You do realize that you implemented fascism in the process of eliminating it, right?

Geo logic!
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5/15/2012 9:21:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I remember trying this a long time ago -- I mean LONG ago, back when I still had a strong libertarian bent. Kinda surprised it's still around. Maybe it's time to give it another go.
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5/15/2012 9:41:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 2:12:53 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
After managing my nation for a few weeks on the political theory simulator NationStates, it has reached a status which was rather quite accurate and in line with my Libertarian Totalitarian ideals.

The Federal Republic of Geosymposia
http://www.nationstates.net...

Motto: "Condemned to be Free"
Category: Libertarian Police State
Civil Rights: Excessive / Economy: Good / Political Freedoms: Few

"The Federal Republic of Geosymposia is a large, socially progressive nation, renowned for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 77 million are proud of their wide-ranging civil freedoms, and those who aren't tend to be dragged off the streets by men in dark suits and hustled into cars with tinted windows."

Surveillance cameras are banned.
Elections are outlawed.

Oh my word.

Assessment: if authority is so staunchly rejected, is order and adherence to normative behavior shunned as well?

I'll bet it's not very safe there.

http://www.nationstates.net...

Lol, yikes. Hide your wives and daughters! Niggas is wayyyyy tooo free!

And, for all this crime, is there any repercussion?

http://www.nationstates.net...

Noooppppeee. xD

Not surprisingly, the lifespan in your country is about 60% of the world.

http://www.nationstates.net...

Apparently, everyone naked, too.

http://www.nationstates.net...

Congratulations. You created the offspring of France and Russia.
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5/15/2012 9:53:23 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I am really disappointed, Geo. You hate the Illuminati because they are advocating eradication of freedoms, yet your ideal state involves eradication of freedoms, including political freedoms like the freedom of expression (which you condemned Dave for arguing against). It seems to me that you only despise the Illuminati because you are not a part of it.
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5/15/2012 9:55:03 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 2:12:53 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
After managing my nation for a few weeks on the political theory simulator NationStates, it has reached a status which was rather quite accurate and in line with my Libertarian Totalitarian ideals.

The Federal Republic of Geosymposia
http://www.nationstates.net...

Motto: "Condemned to be Free"
Category: Libertarian Police State
Civil Rights: Excessive / Economy: Good / Political Freedoms: Few

"The Federal Republic of Geosymposia is a large, socially progressive nation, renowned for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 77 million are proud of their wide-ranging civil freedoms, and those who aren't tend to be dragged off the streets by men in dark suits and hustled into cars with tinted windows."

Surveillance cameras are banned.
Elections are outlawed.

The Confederacy of The United States in Congress Assembled

Motto: "Live Free or Die"
Category: [Capitalizt] Freedom-Loving Libertarians
Civil Rights: Superb / Economy: Very Strong / Political Freedoms: Very Good

"The Confederacy of The United States in Congress Assembled is a large, socially progressive nation, notable for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 81 million enjoy some of the most opulent lifestyles in the region, unless they are unemployed or working-class, in which case they are variously starving to death or crippled by easily preventable diseases."

The site has an obvious bias, regarding many issues.

"The United States in Congress Assembled is ranked 12th in The NationStates of DDO"
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5/15/2012 9:58:16 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 9:55:03 AM, DanT wrote:

The site has an obvious bias, regarding many issues.

"The United States in Congress Assembled is ranked 12th in The NationStates of DDO"

That's based on the daily world census report, which today, was regarding arms manufacturing. So, your nation ranks 12th in arms manufacturing in the Nationstates of DDO.

I rank 27th, lol.

In fact...
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5/15/2012 10:00:12 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
The United Socialist States of Frasci Major
http://www.nationstates.net...

"Peaceful practicality among all living things."

The United Socialist States of Frasci Major is a huge, environmentally stunning nation, remarkable for its sprawling nuclear power plants. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 251 million enjoy extensive civil rights and enjoy a level of social equality free from the usual accompanying government corruption.

Civil Rights: Excellent

Economy: Reasonable

Political Freedoms: Excellent
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5/15/2012 10:02:40 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
And, my people likewise seem to have an aversion to clothing.

http://www.nationstates.net...

I do love them. :3

However, they're a tad uncultured, strangely. Closed-minded, almost... like, they're a little racist, wtf, lol.

http://www.nationstates.net...
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5/15/2012 10:12:35 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 9:55:03 AM, DanT wrote:
At 5/15/2012 2:12:53 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
After managing my nation for a few weeks on the political theory simulator NationStates, it has reached a status which was rather quite accurate and in line with my Libertarian Totalitarian ideals.

The Federal Republic of Geosymposia
http://www.nationstates.net...

Motto: "Condemned to be Free"
Category: Libertarian Police State
Civil Rights: Excessive / Economy: Good / Political Freedoms: Few

"The Federal Republic of Geosymposia is a large, socially progressive nation, renowned for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 77 million are proud of their wide-ranging civil freedoms, and those who aren't tend to be dragged off the streets by men in dark suits and hustled into cars with tinted windows."

Surveillance cameras are banned.
Elections are outlawed.

The Confederacy of The United States in Congress Assembled

Motto: "Live Free or Die"
Category: [Capitalizt] Freedom-Loving Libertarians
Civil Rights: Superb / Economy: Very Strong / Political Freedoms: Very Good

"The Confederacy of The United States in Congress Assembled is a large, socially progressive nation, notable for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 81 million enjoy some of the most opulent lifestyles in the region, unless they are unemployed or working-class, in which case they are variously starving to death or crippled by easily preventable diseases."

The site has an obvious bias, regarding many issues.

"The United States in Congress Assembled is ranked 12th in The NationStates of DDO"

That was in terms of arms manufacturing. The police states are going to rank higher than your sate.
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5/15/2012 10:50:52 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
The Confederacy of The United States in Congress Assembled

Motto: "Live Free or Die"
Category: [Capitalizt] Freedom-Loving Libertarians
Civil Rights: Superb / Economy: Very Strong / Political Freedoms: Very Good

"The Confederacy of The United States in Congress Assembled is a large, socially progressive nation, notable for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 81 million enjoy some of the most opulent lifestyles in the region, unless they are unemployed or working-class, in which case they are variously starving to death or crippled by easily preventable diseases."

The site has an obvious bias, regarding many issues.

"The United States in Congress Assembled is ranked 12th in The NationStates of DDO"

lulz.
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5/15/2012 12:39:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 9:53:23 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
I am really disappointed, Geo. You hate the Illuminati

When did I say that? I probably like the Illuminati more than the average conspiracy theorist. David Icke said that the Illuminati deep down are "pure love." I dislike their policies and agenda, but I like their grandier, their intelligence, and occult knowledge. I even have a t-shirt with Illuminati symbolism on it.

because they are advocating eradication of freedoms, yet your ideal state involves eradication of freedoms,

False. It ranked my Civil Liberties as "Excessive."

including political freedoms like the freedom of expression (which you condemned Dave for arguing against).

False. Freedom of expression is allowed so long as it's not fascist and it doesn't violate the two laws of Libertarianism: non-aggression principle and property rights. Youre calling me fascist for having a zero-tolerance for fascism? That makes zero sense, you need to reevaluate.

It seems to me that you only despise the Illuminati because you are not a part of it.

False. I'm friends with an Illuminati member, I work for the government, and I have an Illuminati sex slave on speed dial.

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5/15/2012 12:47:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 12:39:00 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 5/15/2012 9:53:23 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
I am really disappointed, Geo. You hate the Illuminati

When did I say that? I probably like the Illuminati more than the average conspiracy theorist. David Icke said that the Illuminati deep down are "pure love." I dislike their policies and agenda, but I like their grandier, their intelligence, and occult knowledge. I even have a t-shirt with Illuminati symbolism on it.

because they are advocating eradication of freedoms, yet your ideal state involves eradication of freedoms,

False. It ranked my Civil Liberties as "Excessive."

And not your political freedoms.
including political freedoms like the freedom of expression (which you condemned Dave for arguing against).

False. Freedom of expression is allowed so long as it's not fascist and it doesn't violate the two laws of Libertarianism: non-aggression principle and property rights. Youre calling me fascist for having a zero-tolerance for fascism? That makes zero sense, you need to reevaluate.

That does make you fascist because you are stifling political thought (seriously, this was exactly what Dave was doing), and you are also banning speech that denounces authoritarianism.
It seems to me that you only despise the Illuminati because you are not a part of it.

False. I'm friends with an Illuminati member, I work for the government, and I have an Illuminati sex slave on speed dial.


LOL, I am 100% sure that all of this is false. If you are part of the Illuminati, however, why are you complaining?

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5/15/2012 12:48:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 10:50:52 AM, OMGJustinBieber wrote:
The Confederacy of The United States in Congress Assembled

Motto: "Live Free or Die"
Category: [Capitalizt] Freedom-Loving Libertarians
Civil Rights: Superb / Economy: Very Strong / Political Freedoms: Very Good

"The Confederacy of The United States in Congress Assembled is a large, socially progressive nation, notable for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, hard-working, intelligent population of 81 million enjoy some of the most opulent lifestyles in the region, unless they are unemployed or working-class, in which case they are variously starving to death or crippled by easily preventable diseases."

The site has an obvious bias, regarding many issues.

"The United States in Congress Assembled is ranked 12th in The NationStates of DDO"

lulz.
Once again, obvious bias.
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5/15/2012 12:50:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 2:12:53 AM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
After managing my nation for a few weeks on the political theory simulator NationStates, it has reached a status which was rather quite accurate and in line with my Libertarian Totalitarian ideals.

The Federal Republic of Geosymposia
http://www.nationstates.net...

Motto: "Condemned to be Free"
Category: Libertarian Police State
Civil Rights: Excessive / Economy: Good / Political Freedoms: Few

"The Federal Republic of Geosymposia is a large, socially progressive nation, renowned for its absence of drug laws. Its hard-nosed, cynical population of 77 million are proud of their wide-ranging civil freedoms, and those who aren't tend to be dragged off the streets by men in dark suits and hustled into cars with tinted windows."

Surveillance cameras are banned.
Elections are outlawed.

WTF is a libertarian police state?
"Chemical weapons are no different than any other types of weapons."~Lordknukle
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5/15/2012 1:04:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Just found the chart they use. The chart is extremely inaccurate.
Not only does it claim left-right wing is an economic axis, but it claims a "Free Market paradise" violates personal freedom, while "iron fist socialists" maximizes personal freedom.
http://upload.wikimedia.org...
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5/15/2012 1:07:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 12:47:55 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 5/15/2012 12:39:00 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
When did I say that? I probably like the Illuminati more than the average conspiracy theorist. David Icke said that the Illuminati deep down are "pure love." I dislike their policies and agenda, but I like their grandier, their intelligence, and occult knowledge. I even have a t-shirt with Illuminati symbolism on it.

because they are advocating eradication of freedoms, yet your ideal state involves eradication of freedoms,

False. It ranked my Civil Liberties as "Excessive."

And not your political freedoms.

It's a Republic. Divided powers. A congregation of philosophers deciding how best to run a country. What's wrong with that?

False. Freedom of expression is allowed so long as it's not fascist and it doesn't violate the two laws of Libertarianism: non-aggression principle and property rights. Youre calling me fascist for having a zero-tolerance for fascism? That makes zero sense, you need to reevaluate.

That does make you fascist because you are stifling political thought (seriously, this was exactly what Dave was doing), and you are also banning speech that denounces authoritarianism.

This is why Anarchy fails. It allows for fascists to cultivate, thrive, and eventually create a fascist state because the weak Anarchist society has no policy on deterring fascism. My government does and succeeds where Anarchy fails.

False. I'm friends with an Illuminati member, I work for the government, and I have an Illuminati sex slave on speed dial.


LOL, I am 100% sure that all of this is false. If you are part of the Illuminati, however, why are you complaining?

None of it is false, but I never claimed to be in the Illuminati. I am friends with Grand Master Leo Zagami, I did actually receive the phone number of an Illuminati sex slave (she goes by Treee, Sangralian on youtube, Infowars did a story on her) and I live 5 minutes from her house. It's also true I work for the government. But that by no means necessitates that I must be in the Illuminati.

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5/15/2012 1:14:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 1:04:04 PM, DanT wrote:
Just found the chart they use. The chart is extremely inaccurate.
Not only does it claim left-right wing is an economic axis, but it claims a "Free Market paradise" violates personal freedom, while "iron fist socialists" maximizes personal freedom.
http://upload.wikimedia.org...

First of all those are just nicknames for categories. They have no bearing on anything and do not compromise the accuracy of the site.

It says Free Market Paradise is high on Economic freedoms and Political freedoms. Iron Fist socialist is low on Economic and Political freedoms. The left does tend to favor civil liberties doesn't it? And the Right tends not to favor civil liberties right?
"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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5/15/2012 1:29:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 1:07:07 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 5/15/2012 12:47:55 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 5/15/2012 12:39:00 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
When did I say that? I probably like the Illuminati more than the average conspiracy theorist. David Icke said that the Illuminati deep down are "pure love." I dislike their policies and agenda, but I like their grandier, their intelligence, and occult knowledge. I even have a t-shirt with Illuminati symbolism on it.

because they are advocating eradication of freedoms, yet your ideal state involves eradication of freedoms,

False. It ranked my Civil Liberties as "Excessive."

And not your political freedoms.

It's a Republic. Divided powers. A congregation of philosophers deciding how best to run a country. What's wrong with that?

So basically it is an implementation of Plato's ideal state?
False. Freedom of expression is allowed so long as it's not fascist and it doesn't violate the two laws of Libertarianism: non-aggression principle and property rights. Youre calling me fascist for having a zero-tolerance for fascism? That makes zero sense, you need to reevaluate.

That does make you fascist because you are stifling political thought (seriously, this was exactly what Dave was doing), and you are also banning speech that denounces authoritarianism.

This is why Anarchy fails. It allows for fascists to cultivate, thrive, and eventually create a fascist state because the weak Anarchist society has no policy on deterring fascism. My government does and succeeds where Anarchy fails.

You created fascism while attempting to destroy it. That's a bit ridiculous, no?
False. I'm friends with an Illuminati member, I work for the government, and I have an Illuminati sex slave on speed dial.


LOL, I am 100% sure that all of this is false. If you are part of the Illuminati, however, why are you complaining?

None of it is false, but I never claimed to be in the Illuminati. I am friends with Grand Master Leo Zagami, I did actually receive the phone number of an Illuminati sex slave (she goes by Treee, Sangralian on youtube, Infowars did a story on her) and I live 5 minutes from her house. It's also true I work for the government. But that by no means necessitates that I must be in the Illuminati.

LOL, really? Can I have some proof that all of this is true? I believe that you might be a gov. worker, but I highly doubt that you are friends with Zagami, and I am 100% certain that you do not have the number of an Illuminati sex slave.
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5/15/2012 1:55:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 1:29:21 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 5/15/2012 1:07:07 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It's a Republic. Divided powers. A congregation of philosophers deciding how best to run a country. What's wrong with that?

So basically it is an implementation of Plato's ideal state?

Yes, the ideas of Plato and Aristotle have influenced me.

This is why Anarchy fails. It allows for fascists to cultivate, thrive, and eventually create a fascist state because the weak Anarchist society has no policy on deterring fascism. My government does and succeeds where Anarchy fails.

You created fascism while attempting to destroy it. That's a bit ridiculous, no?

You keep evading my argument and replying with this same rhetorical non-argument.
Let me repeat. I have not created fascism, I have a zero-tolerance policy for fascism.

None of it is false, but I never claimed to be in the Illuminati. I am friends with Grand Master Leo Zagami, I did actually receive the phone number of an Illuminati sex slave (she goes by Treee, Sangralian on youtube, Infowars did a story on her) and I live 5 minutes from her house. It's also true I work for the government. But that by no means necessitates that I must be in the Illuminati.

LOL, really? Can I have some proof that all of this is true? I believe that you might be a gov. worker, but I highly doubt that you are friends with Zagami,

Go check Facebook and see. And yes, it's really him, he has photos up of him with his fiance as well as every other aspect of his page proving authenticity.

and I am 100% certain that you do not have the number of an Illuminati sex slave.

I have the conversation between us saved and can screenshot it, but I will not give out her number, that would be a ridiculous request.

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"We must raise the standard of the Old, free, decentralized, and strictly limited Republic."
-- Murray Rothbard

"The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended."
-- Frederic Bastiat
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5/15/2012 2:13:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/15/2012 1:55:28 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
At 5/15/2012 1:29:21 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 5/15/2012 1:07:07 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
It's a Republic. Divided powers. A congregation of philosophers deciding how best to run a country. What's wrong with that?

So basically it is an implementation of Plato's ideal state?

Yes, the ideas of Plato and Aristotle have influenced me.

This is why Anarchy fails. It allows for fascists to cultivate, thrive, and eventually create a fascist state because the weak Anarchist society has no policy on deterring fascism. My government does and succeeds where Anarchy fails.

You created fascism while attempting to destroy it. That's a bit ridiculous, no?

You keep evading my argument and replying with this same rhetorical non-argument.
Let me repeat. I have not created fascism, I have a zero-tolerance policy for fascism.

You are demolishing liberties in the name of protecting them . . .
None of it is false, but I never claimed to be in the Illuminati. I am friends with Grand Master Leo Zagami, I did actually receive the phone number of an Illuminati sex slave (she goes by Treee, Sangralian on youtube, Infowars did a story on her) and I live 5 minutes from her house. It's also true I work for the government. But that by no means necessitates that I must be in the Illuminati.

LOL, really? Can I have some proof that all of this is true? I believe that you might be a gov. worker, but I highly doubt that you are friends with Zagami,

Go check Facebook and see. And yes, it's really him, he has photos up of him with his fiance as well as every other aspect of his page proving authenticity.

Have you friended me on FB?
and I am 100% certain that you do not have the number of an Illuminati sex slave.

I have the conversation between us saved and can screenshot it, but I will not give out her number, that would be a ridiculous request.


Please screenshot the convo.




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