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animpossiblepossibility
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8/7/2009 12:14:38 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I am surprised that no one has done a debate on whether or not the term is vague. First of all, what is the correct term? I thought it would be "infliction of severe physical pain as a means of punishment or coercion" but I am unsure. By this definition though, couldn't putting someone into solitary confinement be torture?
Rezzealaux
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8/7/2009 12:50:09 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Yah.
: If you weren't new here, you'd know not to feed me such attention. This is like an orgasm in my brain right now. *hehe, my name is in a title, hehe* (http://www.debate.org...)

Just in case I get into some BS with FREEDO again about how he's NOT a narcissist.

"The law is there to destroy evil under the constitutional government."
So... what's there to destroy evil inside of and above the constitutional government?
regebro
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8/7/2009 1:03:05 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/7/2009 12:55:47 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Because pain is relative, torture is relative. This is torture to some:



I realize there is some trauma to all this, but I can't help it. It *is* damn funny. Pickles.... :-)
So prove me wrong, then.
Rezzealaux
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8/7/2009 1:11:56 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/7/2009 1:03:05 PM, regebro wrote:
At 8/7/2009 12:55:47 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Because pain is relative, torture is relative. This is torture to some:



I realize there is some trauma to all this, but I can't help it. It *is* damn funny. Pickles.... :-)

LOL OH WOW
: If you weren't new here, you'd know not to feed me such attention. This is like an orgasm in my brain right now. *hehe, my name is in a title, hehe* (http://www.debate.org...)

Just in case I get into some BS with FREEDO again about how he's NOT a narcissist.

"The law is there to destroy evil under the constitutional government."
So... what's there to destroy evil inside of and above the constitutional government?
PervRat
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8/7/2009 7:33:56 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I define torture as the willful infliction of physical, emotional or mental harm or stress for the purposes of gratification on the part of the torturer or to attempt to coerce the victim into obeying the will of the inflictor. Stalking and terrorizing someone, to me, is as much torture as putting someone in restraints and inflicting physical pain and harm upon them.
Harlan
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8/7/2009 7:47:08 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I think any physical or mental pain or distress which is willfully put upon a prisoner is torture. For instance, even today, there are people at Guantanamo bay which are being violently force-fed. This is torture (and must be stopped).
Volkov
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8/7/2009 8:00:53 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I have to agree with Harlan on the definition torture. Individuals who are held agains their and forced to undergo physical or mental distress willfully inflicted by captors is torture.
Volkov
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8/7/2009 8:01:52 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/7/2009 8:00:53 PM, Volkov wrote:
I have to agree with Harlan on the definition torture. Individuals who are held against their will and forced to undergo physical or mental distress willfully inflicted by captors is torture.

Correctin'.
patsox834
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8/7/2009 8:11:36 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
What I want to know is, why is torture viewed as inherently evil? I mean, for some uses, I don't think it's effective -- but let's say we know that some guy is a serial rapist...would torturing the perpetrator as punishment be a bad idea? I really don't think so. In fact, I think it would be an effective means of punishment in such contexts.
studentathletechristian8
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8/7/2009 8:11:48 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/7/2009 12:55:47 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Because pain is relative, torture is relative. This is torture to some:



Why would human beings enjoy seeing others in trauma? The audience was laughing some of the time, and the stupid host made it worse.
Ragnar_Rahl
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8/8/2009 12:17:34 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/7/2009 8:00:53 PM, Volkov wrote:
I have to agree with Harlan on the definition torture. Individuals who are held agains their and forced to undergo physical or mental distress willfully inflicted by captors is torture.

Prison is itself both physical and mental duress.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
Volkov
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8/8/2009 5:25:21 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/8/2009 12:17:34 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 8/7/2009 8:00:53 PM, Volkov wrote:
I have to agree with Harlan on the definition torture. Individuals who are held agains their and forced to undergo physical or mental distress willfully inflicted by captors is torture.

Prison is itself both physical and mental duress.

Always a good point to bring up, but the difference is that it isn't necessarily forced, as criminals being put into prison broke the law and knew the consequences. It can be called "torture" though.

That being said, there is instances in prisons where there is outright torture and abuse of human rights, something I would like to see changed.
HardAssJack
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7/28/2014 11:21:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/7/2009 7:33:56 PM, PervRat wrote:
I define torture as the willful infliction of physical, emotional or mental harm or stress for the purposes of gratification on the part of the torturer or to attempt to coerce the victim into obeying the will of the inflictor. Stalking and terrorizing someone, to me, is as much torture as putting someone in restraints and inflicting physical pain and harm upon them.

Agreed
HardAssJack
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7/28/2014 11:22:58 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 8/7/2009 8:11:36 PM, patsox834 wrote:
What I want to know is, why is torture viewed as inherently evil? I mean, for some uses, I don't think it's effective -- but let's say we know that some guy is a serial rapist...would torturing the perpetrator as punishment be a bad idea? I really don't think so. In fact, I think it would be an effective means of punishment in such contexts.

Also agreed