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Socialism is better then capitalism

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5/31/2012 6:39:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Capitalism is full of corporate greed and scummy special interest. Socialism looks into the problems of humanity and fixes human need, and does not feed corporate greed like in capitalism. Capitalism, after I thought about it, is the worst system ever devised.

People are anti socialism because they dont want to be "owned" by bureaucrats, even though they know better then you and are educated. This also fails as people claim capitalism is dead and the only capitalist society left is america. This is false, socialism is going to rise up. In the US you have little choice anyway, banned drugs and marriage. There is no freedom in the US, in socialism the government helps you so freedom is irrelevant, and they usually protect your rights! Look at Europe.

In the US you are run by companies, not people. In socialism we advocate larger debates, MORE public discussion. We will make it so the government sh!ts on the oligarchy we have today and let the people choose! In the oval office decisions are made and you have no say, in real socialism you get a say in everything!

When people are greedy in capitalism, factories are destroyed people starve. Socialism breeds a new race, they get benefits till they are worthy again to help the public!

USSR is NOT SOCIALIST. Those are oligarch scum. Socialism gives the benefits and is democratic. True socialism has never been used, Europe is close but not there. Europe is blinded by the EU, they need to use a democratic process away from the EU then band together reforming it in a democratic way! Socialism works, those of you who say it fails and then source the USSR are idiots. Find me socialism based on real socialism!

CAPITALISM FAILS, EVEN IF SOCIALISM DOES WE NEED A DIFFERENT SYSTEM. FIGHT AGAINST GREED.

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5/31/2012 6:46:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Why do I get the sense that your political views are nothing but phases. Whatever seems fun to argue at the time and not whatever you've poured in some long, enduring research and thought to find true.
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5/31/2012 6:48:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 6:46:55 PM, 000ike wrote:
Why do I get the sense that your political views are nothing but phases. Whatever seems fun to argue at the time and not whatever you've poured in some long, enduring research and thought to find true.

be quiet moderate
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5/31/2012 6:50:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 6:46:55 PM, 000ike wrote:
Why do I get the sense that your political views are nothing but phases. Whatever seems fun to argue at the time and not whatever you've poured in some long, enduring research and thought to find true.

Hey 000ike, why you block me. I wanted to share your the only DDOer who holds my view of social welfare redistribution. Hazah!
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5/31/2012 6:52:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Let me ask you, what, besides greed, will work as a driving factor for members of society to be productive?
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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5/31/2012 6:53:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 6:52:02 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
Let me ask you, what, besides greed, will work as a driving factor for members of society to be productive?

social equality
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5/31/2012 6:54:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 6:50:05 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:46:55 PM, 000ike wrote:
Why do I get the sense that your political views are nothing but phases. Whatever seems fun to argue at the time and not whatever you've poured in some long, enduring research and thought to find true.

Hey 000ike, why you block me. I wanted to share your the only DDOer who holds my view of social welfare redistribution. Hazah!

lol I think I did that like 7 months ago. unblocked
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5/31/2012 6:54:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Not sure if serious or trolling.
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5/31/2012 6:56:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 6:53:12 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:52:02 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
Let me ask you, what, besides greed, will work as a driving factor for members of society to be productive?

social equality

Right. Kind of like how social equality keeps people in the UK who have headaches once a month on welfare, or how social equality keeps lottery winners in the US on food stamps.

And how social equality causes all of the most productive members of society to give away all their wealth to other people.
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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5/31/2012 6:58:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 6:46:55 PM, 000ike wrote:
Why do I get the sense that your political views are nothing but phases. Whatever seems fun to argue at the time and not whatever you've poured in some long, enduring research and thought to find true.

Are my political views nothing but phases too? :(
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5/31/2012 6:58:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 6:56:49 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:53:12 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:52:02 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
Let me ask you, what, besides greed, will work as a driving factor for members of society to be productive?

social equality

Right. Kind of like how social equality keeps people in the UK who have headaches once a month on welfare, or how social equality keeps lottery winners in the US on food stamps.

And how social equality causes all of the most productive members of society to give away all their wealth to other people.

UK is not socialist. Moderates. No socialist system has ever been born
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5/31/2012 7:00:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 6:54:45 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Not sure if serious or trolling.

You really actually think there's a possibility that he isn't trolling?
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5/31/2012 7:00:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 6:58:12 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:56:49 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:53:12 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:52:02 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
Let me ask you, what, besides greed, will work as a driving factor for members of society to be productive?

social equality

Right. Kind of like how social equality keeps people in the UK who have headaches once a month on welfare, or how social equality keeps lottery winners in the US on food stamps.

And how social equality causes all of the most productive members of society to give away all their wealth to other people.

UK is not socialist. Moderates. No socialist system has ever been born

It doesn't matter. If social equality were a better driving factor than anything else, why don't people act on it?

People are greedy, get over it. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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5/31/2012 7:00:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 7:00:28 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:58:12 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:56:49 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:53:12 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:52:02 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
Let me ask you, what, besides greed, will work as a driving factor for members of society to be productive?

social equality

Right. Kind of like how social equality keeps people in the UK who have headaches once a month on welfare, or how social equality keeps lottery winners in the US on food stamps.

And how social equality causes all of the most productive members of society to give away all their wealth to other people.

UK is not socialist. Moderates. No socialist system has ever been born

It doesn't matter. If social equality were a better driving factor than anything else, why don't people act on it?

People are greedy, get over it. It's not necessarily a bad thing.

It hurts people!!!!!!!
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5/31/2012 7:01:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 6:58:07 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:46:55 PM, 000ike wrote:
Why do I get the sense that your political views are nothing but phases. Whatever seems fun to argue at the time and not whatever you've poured in some long, enduring research and thought to find true.

Are my political views nothing but phases too? :(

Well lets see. 1. You were becoming more radically libertarian before anarchist over a period of months 2. You actually had altercations that led up to that change. 3. It headed in a logical and progressive direction....... whereas 16ks was a sporadic flip one random day.

I don't think there's much basis for comparison.
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5/31/2012 7:03:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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5/31/2012 7:05:50 PM
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At 5/31/2012 6:54:45 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Not sure if serious or trolling.
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5/31/2012 7:06:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 7:05:50 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:54:45 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Not sure if serious or trolling.

Seriously, how the fvck isn't it obvious that he's trolling.
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5/31/2012 7:06:57 PM
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He's obviously trolling, guys.
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5/31/2012 7:07:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 7:06:39 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:05:50 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:54:45 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Not sure if serious or trolling.

Seriously, how the fvck isn't it obvious that he's trolling.

It is, but 16k HAS been known to change his ideology randomly.
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5/31/2012 7:08:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 7:07:42 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:06:39 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:05:50 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:54:45 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Not sure if serious or trolling.

Seriously, how the fvck isn't it obvious that he's trolling.

It is, but 16k HAS been known to change his ideology randomly.

He made a gradual change from conservative to libertarian.
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5/31/2012 7:09:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 7:07:42 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:06:39 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:05:50 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/31/2012 6:54:45 PM, DetectableNinja wrote:
Not sure if serious or trolling.

Seriously, how the fvck isn't it obvious that he's trolling.

It is, but 16k HAS been known to change his ideology randomly.

Also, because I come from the Land of Lazy, when I saw that he changed his profile accordingly, my instinct is to say that the sh1t is real.

But then I remember he has a picture of Ronald Reagan still.
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5/31/2012 7:11:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Socialism can be kinda cool. It increases the tax rate, but the govt looks after everyone. Things like universal healthcare can be beneficial. Also, there tends to be less crime in Europe/Canada/Australia. However, I don't know if it would work in America. Also, I don't think the tax rate should go above 50%
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5/31/2012 7:11:52 PM
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At 5/31/2012 7:00:50 PM, 16kadams wrote:
It hurts people!!!!!!!

Really? How many of today's conveniences do we have because someone was greedy? Someone wanted fame or fortune, and made something that improved everyone's lives?

How does it hurt people if I decide I want to start my own business, and I make a new computer that fits in your sunglasses and communicates with your car and house? If people want it and buy it, then I get money(I'm happy), and they get a cool product they want(They're happy). So who is getting hurt?
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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5/31/2012 7:13:43 PM
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At 5/31/2012 7:11:52 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:00:50 PM, 16kadams wrote:
It hurts people!!!!!!!

Really? How many of today's conveniences do we have because someone was greedy? Someone wanted fame or fortune, and made something that improved everyone's lives?

How does it hurt people if I decide I want to start my own business, and I make a new computer that fits in your sunglasses and communicates with your car and house? If people want it and buy it, then I get money(I'm happy), and they get a cool product they want(They're happy). So who is getting hurt?

How about the people that abuse the system?
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5/31/2012 7:14:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 7:13:43 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:11:52 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:00:50 PM, 16kadams wrote:
It hurts people!!!!!!!

Really? How many of today's conveniences do we have because someone was greedy? Someone wanted fame or fortune, and made something that improved everyone's lives?

How does it hurt people if I decide I want to start my own business, and I make a new computer that fits in your sunglasses and communicates with your car and house? If people want it and buy it, then I get money(I'm happy), and they get a cool product they want(They're happy). So who is getting hurt?

How about the people that abuse the system?

What people?
twocupcakes: 15 = 13
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5/31/2012 7:16:27 PM
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At 5/31/2012 7:14:59 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:13:43 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:11:52 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:00:50 PM, 16kadams wrote:
It hurts people!!!!!!!

Really? How many of today's conveniences do we have because someone was greedy? Someone wanted fame or fortune, and made something that improved everyone's lives?

How does it hurt people if I decide I want to start my own business, and I make a new computer that fits in your sunglasses and communicates with your car and house? If people want it and buy it, then I get money(I'm happy), and they get a cool product they want(They're happy). So who is getting hurt?

How about the people that abuse the system?

What people?

People do it all the time
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https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
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5/31/2012 7:18:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
gaa

Sorry freedo I cant act socialist without insults, so I give up. They have no god counter arguments.
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5/31/2012 7:18:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/31/2012 7:16:27 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:14:59 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:13:43 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:11:52 PM, JaxsonRaine wrote:
At 5/31/2012 7:00:50 PM, 16kadams wrote:
It hurts people!!!!!!!

Really? How many of today's conveniences do we have because someone was greedy? Someone wanted fame or fortune, and made something that improved everyone's lives?

How does it hurt people if I decide I want to start my own business, and I make a new computer that fits in your sunglasses and communicates with your car and house? If people want it and buy it, then I get money(I'm happy), and they get a cool product they want(They're happy). So who is getting hurt?

How about the people that abuse the system?

What people?

People do it all the time

Ok. Burn them at the stake then.
twocupcakes: 15 = 13