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Who is the Rush Limbaugh

MTGandP
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8/13/2009 6:38:13 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Full title: Who is the Rush Limbaugh of Liberalism?

By that I mean: Rush Limbaugh is an insanely popular and outspoken conservative. Are there any similar extremely popular outspoken liberals? I know of plenty of liberals in the media, but their business isn't liberalism in the same way that Rush's business is conservatism.
JBlake
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8/13/2009 6:43:17 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
An interesting topic. I don't know that there is a Rush Limbaugh of Liberalism. It would be interesting to hear others' thoughts.
Volkov
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8/13/2009 6:46:16 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Depends what you mean. In the general media, you have Keith Olbermann, and others like that. If you mean in politics, you have several good leaders that promote or promoted liberalism well. If you mean specifically on the radio... well, I remember that Ed fella who is now on MSNBC said he had a radio show, and Radio Free America is pretty liberal considering.
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8/13/2009 7:03:22 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/13/2009 7:00:16 PM, wjmelements wrote:
Define Liberalism.

That is another good point, what definition of "liberalism" are we using?

Are we using social/modern liberalism, classical liberalism, or just a broad-based centre-left definition that Americans most commonly attribute it to?
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8/13/2009 7:23:20 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
From the context, it would seem the third option, Volkov. He is wondering if there is a counterpoint to Rush Limbaugh. I don't think there is. But then again, I don't think one is necessary.
mongoose
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8/13/2009 7:30:06 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
You can't have a leftist Limbaugh. It just doesn't work.
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
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8/13/2009 7:53:24 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/13/2009 7:30:06 PM, mongoose wrote:
You can't have a leftist Limbaugh. It just doesn't work.

Hey Mongoose:
A few days after the start of The Ed Show on MSNBC I returned home. As I entered, I turned on the TV and went to the kitchen. I knew that MSNBC was on. I was drawn to the ranting voice delivering a harangue. I thought: "What's Rush Limbaugh doing in MSNBC? I went to see, and discovered that the speaker was Ed Schultz.
I hereby contest your statement and offer Ed as "the leftist Limbaugh."
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8/13/2009 8:05:17 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/13/2009 7:53:24 PM, dogparktom wrote:
I hereby contest your statement and offer Ed as "the leftist Limbaugh."

Except no one watches Ed. Rush gets something like 17 million listeners per week. I doubt Ed gets over 2 million.
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8/13/2009 8:25:26 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
http://talkers.com...

Ed is 18. Rush is #1!
It is odd when one's capacity for compassion is measured not in what he is willing to do by his own time, effort, and property, but what he will force others to do with their own property instead.
mongeese
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8/13/2009 9:08:35 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/13/2009 9:04:38 PM, MTGandP wrote:
At 8/13/2009 8:25:26 PM, mongoose wrote:
http://talkers.com...

Ed is 18. Rush is #1!

The top three are all conservative. Interesting.

A. Biased source.
B. Correlation and/or Causation.
C. Random occurence.

Now, don't just assume A. Don't just assume B or C, either.
Xer
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8/13/2009 9:11:27 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/13/2009 9:04:38 PM, MTGandP wrote:
At 8/13/2009 8:25:26 PM, mongoose wrote:
http://talkers.com...

Ed is 18. Rush is #1!

The top three are all conservative. Interesting.

Here are the Top Radio Hosts (in terms of viewers):
http://talkers.com...

There is not one liberal in the top 20.
regebro
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8/13/2009 9:36:42 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/13/2009 9:11:27 PM, Nags wrote:
At 8/13/2009 9:04:38 PM, MTGandP wrote:
At 8/13/2009 8:25:26 PM, mongoose wrote:
http://talkers.com...

Ed is 18. Rush is #1!

The top three are all conservative. Interesting.

Here are the Top Radio Hosts (in terms of viewers):
http://talkers.com...

There is not one liberal in the top 20.

Liberals obviously have better things to do than listen to shock jocks.
So prove me wrong, then.
USAPitBull63
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8/13/2009 9:49:59 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Liberal radio personalities have difficulty capturing, and even more difficulty maintaining, audiences.

Though I only listen to Rush for a chance segment here and there, I remember hearing him say one time that he would happily train a liberal to run a show correctly/successfully (not about ideas, but content/structure)---but he said no one will take him up on it.

Air America; Ed Schultz; even Jerry Springer: they've all struggled to get any serious numbers.

The closest thing to steady liberal ratings and consistency on the airwaves? NPR.
Volkov
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8/14/2009 4:18:09 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
In terms of the US, I personally believe you won't have a huge amount of radio-based liberal commentators because radio is the domain of the conservative radio host, has been for awhile now.

Does it matter? Sort of, I guess. It depends how much you actually care or listen to radio.

In Canada, I don't have this problem, especially considering that the only radio station I listen to is CBC, and that tries to be as unbiased as it can. Though, you can find a little bit of a left-wing bias, at least on Radio One.

Now, in terms of every other medium (TV, literature, internet, etc.), you'll find a good amount of balance and/or liberal swing.
I-am-a-panda
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8/14/2009 4:37:58 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
Talkers magazine listed Glenn Beck as #5......*Bleugh*

Not a reliable source by any accounts.
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8/14/2009 8:58:52 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
People don't listen to the radio much on public transportation, or in limousines, or where the welfare is handed out.

They listen to it when they are driving to work themselves :).
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Ragnar_Rahl
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8/14/2009 9:00:06 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
Well, either that, or--

Liberals don't believe in individuals, so it's the collective power of many broadcasters that serves as the liberal answer to Rush. :)
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8/14/2009 9:14:26 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/14/2009 4:47:03 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Anyway, perhaps Cenk Uygur is the Rush Limbaugh of Liberalism.

The fact that I've never even heard of this person tells me that (s)he's probably not.
I-am-a-panda
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8/14/2009 10:23:41 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/14/2009 9:14:26 AM, USAPitBull63 wrote:
At 8/14/2009 4:47:03 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Anyway, perhaps Cenk Uygur is the Rush Limbaugh of Liberalism.

The fact that I've never even heard of this person tells me that (s)he's probably not.

Hosts the young turks. It gets a lot of hits from Liberalz.
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8/14/2009 1:29:30 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Maybe Al Franken (In the way that their both radical and have a large number of fans/viewers/readers/listeners) but he's a senator now. I would say their isn't a real equivalent.
I'll get by with a little help from my friends.

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8/14/2009 1:34:52 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
The Democratic Party isn't really united, so they can't have one leader.
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Xer
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8/14/2009 3:03:58 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/14/2009 10:23:41 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 8/14/2009 9:14:26 AM, USAPitBull63 wrote:
At 8/14/2009 4:47:03 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Anyway, perhaps Cenk Uygur is the Rush Limbaugh of Liberalism.

The fact that I've never even heard of this person tells me that (s)he's probably not.

Hosts the young turks. It gets a lot of hits from Liberalz.

I've never heard of Cenk Uygur before either.

Anyway- There is not one liberal close to Rush Limbaugh. Case closed.
Xer
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8/14/2009 3:04:16 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/14/2009 8:58:52 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
People don't listen to the radio much on public transportation, or in limousines, or where the welfare is handed out.

They listen to it when they are driving to work themselves :).

Hahahahah.
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8/14/2009 3:10:28 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/14/2009 1:29:30 PM, ournamestoolong wrote:
Maybe Al Franken (In the way that their both radical and have a large number of fans/viewers/readers/listeners) but he's a senator now. I would say their isn't a real equivalent.

LOL, Al Franken? I hadn't any idea he was in politics -- I've always known him as Stuart Smalley.
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8/14/2009 3:42:11 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/14/2009 3:10:28 PM, patsox834 wrote:
At 8/14/2009 1:29:30 PM, ournamestoolong wrote:
Maybe Al Franken (In the way that their both radical and have a large number of fans/viewers/readers/listeners) but he's a senator now. I would say their isn't a real equivalent.

LOL, Al Franken? I hadn't any idea he was in politics -- I've always known him as Stuart Smalley.

His books are pretty hilarious.
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resolutionsmasher
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8/15/2009 3:21:48 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Are yall kidding me?!?!?
Nancy Pelosi is definitly the Rush of Libralism/socialism.
In the relationship between Obama and the rest of the U.S..... I think the U.S. is getting the short end of the hockey stick.