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Can a 3rd Party Win This Year?

Microsuck
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6/3/2012 6:57:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
For the Repooplicans and the Democraps, it has came down to Romney v. Obama. Both have so much political baggage that whoever wins will defy political history ( http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com... )

This leads me to think whether or not it is conceivable that a 3rd party can win this year. Personally, I really hope so.
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6/3/2012 7:16:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/3/2012 6:57:48 PM, Microsuck wrote:
For the Repooplicans and the Democraps, it has came down to Romney v. Obama. Both have so much political baggage that whoever wins will defy political history ( http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com... )

This leads me to think whether or not it is conceivable that a 3rd party can win this year. Personally, I really hope so.

No, libertarians are too much of a minority. Given the results of the elections, one day in the near future it might be possible.
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6/3/2012 7:19:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/3/2012 7:16:02 PM, DanT wrote:
At 6/3/2012 6:57:48 PM, Microsuck wrote:
For the Repooplicans and the Democraps, it has came down to Romney v. Obama. Both have so much political baggage that whoever wins will defy political history ( http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com... )

This leads me to think whether or not it is conceivable that a 3rd party can win this year. Personally, I really hope so.

No, libertarians are too much of a minority. Given the results of the elections, one day in the near future it might be possible.

There are, however, libertarians in congress and in political office. I think that if he would have ran with the repblican party that he may have had a fighting chance. However, I'll still vote for him because it senda message that we want a small government.
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6/3/2012 7:25:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/3/2012 7:17:01 PM, 1Historygenius wrote:
Not this year.

This year we have two very different sides to choose from, one is financed and owned by big banks and the other is owned and financed by big banks.
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6/3/2012 8:41:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
A third party will never win. The founding fathers unwittingly structured our voting system so that it is winner-take-all.

"Probably the single most important reason that the United States has a two-party system is the winner-take-all electoral system, instead of proportional representation. In nearly all elections, from the race for the presidency to contests at the local level, the winner is the one who receives the largest number of votes. The winner does not need to have more than 50 percent of the vote, only one vote more than his or her opponents. Because a party does not gain anything by finishing second, minor parties can rarely overcome the assumption that a vote for them is "wasted." Elections for national and most state representatives are based on single-member districts. One person represents the people within a small area, or district, of a state. No matter how many people run, the person with the largest number of votes wins. This encourages parties to become larger, spreading their "umbrellas" to embrace more voters. Parties without big groups of voters supporting them have little hope of winning, and often even have a hard time getting their candidates listed on the ballot."

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6/4/2012 10:26:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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6/5/2012 6:01:42 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Due to the combination of first past the post and no third party having a platform to make themselves known, they will not win.
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6/5/2012 6:23:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/3/2012 8:10:48 PM, SayWhat wrote:
Well considering there are only 500,000 registered Libertarians I don't think so.

A lot of libertarians are republicans (DanT, for example) or are independents. I don't know of any that are democrats.
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6/5/2012 8:44:56 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/5/2012 6:23:01 AM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/3/2012 8:10:48 PM, SayWhat wrote:
Well considering there are only 500,000 registered Libertarians I don't think so.

A lot of libertarians are republicans (DanT, for example) or are independents. I don't know of any that are democrats.

So? The libertarians like DanT vote for republicans, and independents vote for independents. No third party triumphs.
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Microsuck
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6/5/2012 8:57:53 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/5/2012 8:44:56 AM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
At 6/5/2012 6:23:01 AM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/3/2012 8:10:48 PM, SayWhat wrote:
Well considering there are only 500,000 registered Libertarians I don't think so.

A lot of libertarians are republicans (DanT, for example) or are independents. I don't know of any that are democrats.

So? The libertarians like DanT vote for republicans, and independents vote for independents. No third party triumphs.

Not always.

http://www.lp.org...

That is one reason why I am against the electoral college though.
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